I wonder where this new Keltec 5.7x28 pistol stands with NY's Safe Act and CCIA ??

[JRtraderny]

Keltec is bringing out a new 20 round pistol without a detachable mag .

PR57 | 5.7mm Rotary Barrel Pistol | 20 Round Capacity

Unique & light. The PR57 is our 1st rotating barrel firearm and the lightest 5.7 pistol on the market. Its slim, streamlined design make it perfect for edc, and turning heads at the range.

www.keltecweapons.com

 

[Rocpo]

Same as FN's 5.7. 20 round magazine = clearly a terrorist.

 

[GOPerfect]

Same as FN's 5.7. 20 round magazine = clearly a terrorist.

No detachable mag though....

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

A stripper clip loading 5.7. Damn didn't have that on my bingo card

Well I give them credit for doing things outside the box trying to come up with different ideas.

 

[Rocpo]

No detachable mag though....

I don't recall a delineation for detachable mags for pistols. Only exception was for tube magazines on .22lr

 

[Saltwater60]

I don't recall a delineation for detachable mags for pistols. Only exception was for tube magazines on .22lr

Correct. Only exemption is .22 tube fed magazines.
I have to say I really like the pistol and for $400 it’s a no brainer for me to buy if I could have 20 rounds. At the NYS restriction it’s not worth it for me.

 

[FP1201]

A stripper clip loading 5.7. Damn didn't have that on my bingo card

Well I give them credit for doing things outside the box trying to come up with different ideas.

Kel-Tec has definitely had some "outside the box" designs, and for the most part they're reliable, sometimes a bit tough to get (low production numbers) and as any other manufacturer, they've made so junk too.
Their 30 round, .22 magnum semi-auto Pistol is a hoot, too bad the fucktards from NYC ruined any chances of vetted Civilians from ever having the here.

 

[FRANKIE]

Kel-tec could be hit or miss.
But they definitely stand behind there product.
Repair or replace postage paid no hassle.

 

[spat]

I don't recall a delineation for detachable mags for pistols. Only exception was for tube magazines on .22lr

Would a 20 round revolver be complaint ? Is that one 20 round magazine, or 20 one round magazines ?

But, you're right, even a tube mag is limited to 10 unless it's a .22lr under SAFE.

 

[pshift]

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Since this has no "magazine" to speak of, does filling the gun with 20 rounds violate NYS law? Asking for a friend ...

 

[spat]

Kel-Tec PR57 Review: The Best 5.7 Pistol on the Market?

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Since this has no "magazine" to speak of, does filling the gun with 20 rounds violate NYS law? Asking for a friend ...

IT has a magazine, just not a detachable one.

Since SAFE already outlawed tubular magazines in excess of 10 rounds for everything but .22lr then certainly this is illegal too.

Doesn't even matter if it's not a semi-auto. A lever action .357 is illegal if the tube is too long. Same goes for a pump shotgun if you put a super long tube on it.

 

[jimc]

I expect stripper clips to be redefined as detachable magazines. Or detachable magazines to have a new definition.

 

[pshift]

Yup. They will likely add stripper clips to the definition of "magazines". Until they do ......

 

[jimc]

According to the website, a pistol must have a detachable magazine to be scary. Nothing about on-board capacity is mentioned at all. I might need one of these.

https://gunsafety.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2021/01/pistols_banned_features.pdf

 

[Cavalry]

Its pretty cut and dry about this, 20 rounds is a no-go. I suppose a FFL could make a blocking plug to be compliant but getting clarification on how to do it properly is not likely.

23. “Large capacity ammunition feeding device” means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire

 

[spat]

According to the website, a pistol must have a detachable magazine to be scary. Nothing about on-board capacity is mentioned at all. I might need one of these.

https://gunsafety.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2021/01/pistols_banned_features.pdf

The magazine itself is illegal, whether it's permanently attached to a pistol or not.

A 30rnd mag doesn't magically become legal just because you glue it into an AR for instance.

So, you do not have an illegal assault weapon, because not detachable.

But you still have an illegal full capacity magazine.

 

[spat]

Yup. They will likely add stripper clips to the definition of "magazines". Until they do ......

Aren't most stripper clips 10 rnd anyway?

If you have a 30rnd SKS, it's NY illegal. Even though you would reload it with three 10 rnd stripper clips.

 

[Koz]

Big problem is to get an FFL dealer to bring them into Horchul's horror show of a state and challenge the unsafe act's draconian restrictions.

 

[Robin]

Nice looking gun, thin and relatively compact. I'm not familiar with the caliber but if is available I would take a serious look. Course, in Shit Hole USA there is no chance of separating me and my Dinaro for this little gem. 20 rounds! Awesome!
FUNY
Robin

 

[Jsmegs77]

Looks neat. Wonder if there’s a simple way to kneecap it to only take one clip of ten. Price point is certainly interesting, I may have to add it to the acquisition list.

 

[spat]

Looks neat. Wonder if there’s a simple way to kneecap it to only take one clip of ten. Price point is certainly interesting, I may have to add it to the acquisition list.

Has to be something equivalent to a block you could glue to the bottom of the follower.

I suppose the ultimate bottom line would be to just epoxy a block of 10 snap caps into the mag so it only holds 10 live rounds.

 

[thughes]

Has to be something equivalent to a block you could glue to the bottom of the follower.

I suppose the ultimate bottom line would be to just epoxy a block of 10 snap caps into the mag so it only holds 10 live rounds.

Stop it! Stop it right now! The correct solution is to roll the gallows out and eliminate the source of these ridiculous "laws" in the first place.

 

[spat]

Stop it! Stop it right now! The correct solution is to roll the gallows out and eliminate the source of these ridiculous "laws" in the first place.

That's certainly ideal, but beyond my personal capabilities.

My solution was to escape from the gulag, and I would just buy one of these and load it up all the way because I moved the hell out of communist territory.

I have a Thorsden stock sitting in a box in my closet, replaced with an aimpoint folder once I escaped.

"Found" a box of 30 round mags when I moved too, guess they didn't fall out of that boat after all.

But, even that is beyond the capabilities of many of the members here as well.

So, I was just offering an opinion on what *they* could do.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Has to be something equivalent to a block you could glue to the bottom of the follower.

I suppose the ultimate bottom line would be to just epoxy a block of 10 snap caps into the mag so it only holds 10 live rounds.

Depending on the design, maybe a roll pin through the mag well at the appropriate depth. After all, you should be able to unfuck the thing in the event you escape to America, or even visit.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Living in a free state I would still consider this as a carry option. And it's pretty cool. It reminds me of the Remington R1, but actually works. It's a bit shorter than the other 5.7 offerings too making for better concealed carry. I think you would treat this more like a revolver than an auto. Having no detachable mags makes it overall simpler. Just load 20 up and go. I suppose you could carry around a clip or 2 though (they hold 10). Being how slim it is it's probably a pleasure to carry.

 

[SomeSoldier]

No detachable mag though....

More than 10 rounds?

 

[togmaster]

Interesting but I'd like to know more about how it functions. It's still semi auto and if (and when) it malfunctions it needs to be cleared. How does that work?

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[spat]

Depending on the design, maybe a roll pin through the mag well at the appropriate depth. After all, you should be able to unfuck the thing in the event you escape to America, or even visit.

That could work as well.

I would certainly want a reversible option. If I was still in NY, but I would consider something that just requires buying a new follower close enough to "reversible".

If you're really a purist, buy a new follower to mangle and keep the original in a box. Doesn't get much more reversible than that.

As far as getting it into the state to begin with, wonder if you just talked the sending FFL into gutting the mag and shipping it as a "single shot" without a spring or follower at all to make it compliant..

Then you can add your frankenfollower once you get it.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Well, upon further investigation I think I’ll be picking one of these up, once distributors get some in stock. Seems like fun… also I’ve paid off my child support arrears so the gun budget is back!