Armed homeowner, who defended famly in shootout, says his second ammendment rights are in jeopardy
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gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Moved from NY to Cali and supports the NRA. He needs to make better choices I think.
Slacker43
.40 S&W
If you carry in ny you sure as hell better have made peace with this long ago.
C3D
.308 Win
Here's the article version if you hate videos
www.foxnews.com
Armed homeowner who defended family in driveway shoot-out says he's been stripped of gun permit
California temporarily suspended the concealed carry license of Los Angeles homeowner Vince Ricci after he opened fire on two armed suspects who ambushed him at his front door.
www.foxnews.com
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Wow. From the article if true his permit was revoked because he yelled at police for sloppy police work. They failed to find all shell casings and log them into evidence so yeah this is sloppy. I figured it was because he pursued them while the criminals were retreating but nope.Here's the article version if you hate videos
Armed homeowner who defended family in driveway shoot-out says he's been stripped of gun permit
California temporarily suspended the concealed carry license of Los Angeles homeowner Vince Ricci after he opened fire on two armed suspects who ambushed him at his front door.
What I didn't see, is that he is suing the shit out of them, with the help of the NRA. Or, is the NRA using him only for publicity sake?
I would also venture a guess that since he left NY to move to CA, his politics may be left of center? If so, I would suggest he stay there and keep getting shit upon.
I would also venture a guess that since he left NY to move to CA, his politics may be left of center? If so, I would suggest he stay there and keep getting shit upon.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
Dear NRA
get rid of Wayne and we'll talk. otherwise, GFY
get rid of Wayne and we'll talk. otherwise, GFY
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
ManualF150
.308 Win
This is the case where you now have two criminals.
The original criminal trying to hurt the homeowner, and the county (likely a judge) for revoking the homeowner's permit.
In my opinion, the homeowner is at higher risk right now because of the publicity. They should not only have police monitoring the area, but the homeowner should be armed to the kilt.
Right now, everyone in the whole wide worlds knows this guy is disarmed. Now it's free and easy access not only to his home, but his family making him and his family vulnerable.
Not a situation I would want to be in, but unfortunately these laws put us harms way when we need to defend ourselves and others the most.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
It would be good if the NRA can help this guy get his 2A rights back. But Mr. Richie appearing in what seems to be a NRA involved/produced video might result in a CommieCali judge/system to dig the heals in and break the guys balls for as long and hard as possible. In the vid Richie comes across as the confrontational type, which might be a disadvantage for him. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
He’s not disarmed at his home. You don’t need a permit to have a gun on your property in CA per the article. Again I don’t know.
I could see if they revoked his permit for pursuing them and CA was a duty to retreat state like NYS but for simply yelling at some one. Again if true I hope two things happen. First he gets very wealthy from a lawsuit and the court of public opinion comes to this guys aid with how sick of criminals they are.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
in this situation .. do not call 911 ..
let your neighbors do that if there awake and hear the shots ..
let your neighbors do that if there awake and hear the shots ..
And we don't need a permit for a gun on our property in NY.
But once our permit is taken away they steal ALL of our guns.
The chance that this guy is disarmed is greater than 99%
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
If the guy was smart he would have let the thugs steal his possessions, rape his wife and kidnap his kid. At least he would still have his permit.
Sarcasm.
Sarcasm.
Hochulsucks1234
.357 mag
I always think of the "what if" situations here. What if someone comes to my home and is trying to break in. What if they aren't armed and I shoot and kill them. If the cops are involved then you most likely will be arrested and lose your guns. NY favors the criminals in these cases.
What are the other options? I do own a backhoe and live in a very rural area where neighbors wouldn't hear the shots or give two shits if they did. I could very easily just dispose of the body, clean up the mess and be done with it. But is it that easy? Did the guy have a cell phone that can be tracked? Drive and park somewhere or close or get dropped off? Did he tell anyone else what he was doing? The cops may come a knocking and then you are really screwed.
I suppose another option is to have a throw away pistol not registered to plant on someone in that situations. Dead men can't talk. It is pretty sad to think of these things when it comes to making split second decisions to protect your family.
What are the other options? I do own a backhoe and live in a very rural area where neighbors wouldn't hear the shots or give two shits if they did. I could very easily just dispose of the body, clean up the mess and be done with it. But is it that easy? Did the guy have a cell phone that can be tracked? Drive and park somewhere or close or get dropped off? Did he tell anyone else what he was doing? The cops may come a knocking and then you are really screwed.
I suppose another option is to have a throw away pistol not registered to plant on someone in that situations. Dead men can't talk. It is pretty sad to think of these things when it comes to making split second decisions to protect your family.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
I think the same way. Here in NYS even a good or justified shoot, use a gun or other lethal force to defend you or yours, and you'll at minimum pay thru the ass in lawyer/court costs.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Taking guns out of the equation, there has been plenty of times law abiding citizens using say a knife to kill the criminal. In court, if the criminal didn't have a knife, you are in the wrong for using a knife.
You see where I'm getting with this? Like stated above by @Willyone, you'll at minimum pay thru the ass in lawyer/court costs.
In places like NYS, the criminal always has the advantage of working the system.
It shouldn't work like that.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
And if you win the case, charges dropped or whatever, then a perp or his family can bring a civil suit. Makes ya wanna stay home 24/7 with the doors locked. Welp, I guess it's better than dying...
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
For a pistol you do the article says you don’t for California. Stupid Giffords says the same. He’s not charged with a crime and seemingly committed no crime so they can’t take his guns away and it seems for CA they don’t take your guns if your permit is revoked or he’d have said he was disarmed. After all this is an NRA commercial to get our funds.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Yet we’ve seen this stuff many times over and NYC tried to fry some bodega owners and that didn’t go so well. A few people had guns in sensitive locations and could have been charged yet weren’t. Maybe we overreact about this crap I don’t know.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Or a throw away kitchen knife or golf club.
That's how the cops do it.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
i sure as hell can't buy a pistol in NYS and take home unless i have NYS permission permit ..
and if go to a free state and buy one and bring it back .. im screwed with no permit if caught ..
just like any out of state permit holder driving thru NYS and get pulled over and have not a NYS permit ..
there arrested and jammed up ..
Assuming, of course, that the FFL in the free State would even sell you one (if you're not just getting from the "free FFL" down the street).
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
just saying .,. not hard to go to a free state .. hit dmv with paperwork and switch drivers license ..
Bruce_Sloane
.223 Rem
NRA is using him for Fund Raising
They mostly could give a crap about Members legal problems.
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
Ironically, after they steal them all, there is nothing stopping him from going and getting more.
Years ago, my NY CCW was wrongfully suspended. Yet, even after I had gone to Court and gotten it immediately reinstated by the Judge’s order, and finally managed to get my CCW permit card back from the Erie County PPO, the OPPD was refusing to return my handguns to me and jerked me around for a few months more .
I had finally had enough, and went out and bought another handgun, and took my receipt down to the PPO, and got it added to my permit. And then I picked it up.
And lo and behold, a couple of hours later, I got a call from the OPPD telling me I could come pick up my handguns. Same fucking day,- imagine that! Coincidence? I think not.