Iran Attacking Israel

[spat]

We went from "there will be another Hitler!" to "It might be inconvenient" fairly quickly.

I'm willing to keep on that path.

I never brought up Hitler. He was irrelevant to the situation. Just like in WWI, Europe was primed to explode.

If it hadn't been Arch Duke Ferdinand, or Hitler, it would have been some other event and some other cult leader.

Honestly we're *lucky* Hitler was the one who came to power, imagine how bad WWII would have been if they had a competent leader.

 

[spat]

IDK technology has gone a long way since the Soviets. Simple maybe isn’t the best word but a launch platform on a cargo ship isn’t beyond the capability of even Iran. The only question is would they be insane enough to do it.

They can certainly launch from a cargo ship, but concealing it is a different matter.

If they sail a cargo ship into the gulf of Mexico with ballistic missiles on the deck, you can bet we'd have something to say about it.

They would not only have to build a ship that could fire the missiles, they would have to disguise that ability, and keep the fact they built it secret.

That's a lot of heavy lifting.

 

[byron]

 

[Darth]

I never brought up Hitler. He was irrelevant to the situation. Just like in WWI, Europe was primed to explode.

Sure, just like it was easy to ignore that Austrian dude with the funny mustache last time around.

Let's go Brandon?

 

[SonOfSun]

They can certainly launch from a cargo ship, but concealing it is a different matter.

If they sail a cargo ship into the gulf of Mexico with ballistic missiles on the deck, you can bet we'd have something to say about it.

They would not only have to build a ship that could fire the missiles, they would have to disguise that ability, and keep the fact they built it secret.

That's a lot of heavy lifting.

Less lifting than concealing a "stolen election" (lol), but ya'll believe that so a cargo carrier launching missiles from it's deck shouldn't be out of likely occurrence either. It’s trivial compared to somehow concealing a national plot to alter an election with thousands of people involved across dozens of states, and getting every federal judge that ever heard a case related to it to participate so it's existence never came to light. Missiles on a boat are easy next to that.

 

[Saltwater60]

Problem is we enabled them to become what they are, instead of leaving them to be camel jockey, goat humpers they were. Personally I don't like the idea of condemning a people as a whole for what some believe but if it's us or them, turn that place into molten sand.

I think we’re there I have no issues saving some good people prior to making it a glass skating rink but this is a mess and getting worse by the day.

 

[Defilade]

US sends USS Bataan and support vessels into Eastern Mediterranean

US Congressional sources say the amphibious war ship Bataan is leading a US naval task force in the Eastern Mediterranean following the drone attacks on Israel.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

If they were to launch from a ship it certainly wouldn’t be under their own flag. There has been a noticeable number of Iranians in Venezuela for the past 2 decades. There are direct daily flights between Teheran and Venezuela. Venezuela expressed interest in acquiring a nuclear weapon 15 years ago.
How about a launch from a Panamanian registered ship that does regular trips between Cuba and Venezuela?
Get close enough to US coast to take out Miami? Atlanta?

 

[FrankenCub]

Wasn't it NK that was going d to have a missile launch platform on a cargo ship in the Panama canal a bunch of years back?

 

[holdover]

Ooh, an alliance with *Russia*. Throw North Korea in there too and they're not even a serious threat to France.

Russia is not the big bad that they used to be, their showing in Ukraine has proven that.

yeah, its not like they have a nuclear arsenal or anything

 

[Bigfoot]

Israel can most certainly handle this mission by herself but that’s beside the point. Biden doesn’t even have the balls to say the U.S. supports them in their effort.

That's because the shadow government (Obama) sides with the Iranian Mullahs.

Biden is nothing more than Obama's avatar. IMO

 

[Jmac00]

The coward in chief has bailed, AGAIN

US Will Not Participate in Any Retaliation Against Iran: White House

Iran on Saturday launched 300 drones and missiles at Israel, nearly all of which were thwarted by Israel, U.S. and allied forces.

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[96coal449]

imagine how bad WWII would have been if they had a competent leader

He was a competent leader. The Nazi party was funded by the Illuminati. Also fueled by them. The same fuel they had Adolfs doctors prescribe him.
Crystal meth. He became extremely chemically imbalanced and made rash decisions.

BTW, the Illuminati didn't go away. They're even still on the back of the fiat note. I wonder what there up to now?
World peace?

 

[livingston]

This Was Not Iran’s Actual Attack​

This is not the actual Iranian attack.

This is the ‘attack’ prearranged for show between Iran and the Biden administration through backchannels.

It’s an attack that allows Iran to show off that it can reach Israel (look at those lights over the Temple Mount) without inflicting any real damage.

The Biden administration has already made it clear that it will oppose any Israeli response. There will be public condemnations and warnings about escalating the conflict further.

So does that mean it’s over? No.

Iran did burn up some resources doing this, but apart from the morale boost of doing it, it set out to test US and Israeli defenses. And the defenses did what they were supposed to.However had Iran actually been trying to launch a serious attack, it would have used its Hezbollah, Houthi, Iraqi, and whatever is left of its Hamas proxies to saturate local air defenses.

This Was Not Iran's Actual Attack | Frontpage Mag

So does that mean it's over? No.

www.frontpagemag.com

 

[livingston]

When the Dust Settles​

Mark Steyn
[UPDATE: If you're wondering what Joe Biden's emphatic "Don't" works out to when fleshed out just a little, well:

Iran informed Turkey in advance of its planned operation against Israel, a Turkish diplomatic source told Reuters on Sunday, adding that Washington had conveyed to Tehran via Ankara that any action it took had to be "within certain limits."

In other words, "Don't" equals "Do - up to a point". Good to know.]

Or as John Kirby, Washington's National Security press spokesperson cum "Rear-Admiral", crowed:

Truly a successful night, due to a lot of skill, a lot of professionalism and a lot of coordination across the board.

When the Dust Settles

The conventional wisdom of the media and think-tanks agreed its line around the time the two-hundredth drone was shot down: Iran's assault on Israel was a flop. A record number of drones, cruise and ballistic missiles were launched by the mullahs against

www.steynonline.com

 

[tirwin1]

 

[GOPerfect]

Sure, just like it was easy to ignore that Austrian dude with the funny mustache last time around.

Why should we give a fuck about some 3rd rate Austrian Duke getting killed in Europe. He doesn't mean anything to us over here.

And who cares if the Japanese invade China, that's way the fuck over there. Won't affect us at all, right ?

Austria was a tiny insignificant European nobody in the 20th century. A lot more insignificant than Iran.

Was it a good idea to ignore them ?

The World may have turned out better if we ignored them.

 

[GOPerfect]

I am not the most intelligent person around, lower level in some circles to be honest.

I have read each and every post in this thread.... There are some comments here that make me feel like a freaking scholar.

For real....

 

[96coal449]

I am not the most intelligent person around, lower level in some circles to be honest.

I have read each and every post in this thread.... There are some comments here that make me feel like a freaking scholar.

For real....

You are far from stupid.

 

[GOPerfect]

You are far from stupid.

Thanks. I did not call myself stupid, just not the most intelligent...

My wife calls me an idiot on a regular basis.... ☺

 

[96coal449]

Thanks. I did not call myself stupid, just not the most intelligent...

My wife calls me an idiot on a regular basis.... ☺

What I meant was, I consider you to be proficiently intelligent.
You have shown me the light on some topics.

 

[GOPerfect]

What I meant was, I consider you to be proficiently intelligent.
You have shown me the light on some topics.

Again, thanks. I figured if I was going to insult some here, I should include myself.

 

[spat]

Less lifting than concealing a "stolen election" (lol), but ya'll believe that so a cargo carrier launching missiles from it's deck shouldn't be out of likely occurrence either. It’s trivial compared to somehow concealing a national plot to alter an election with thousands of people involved across dozens of states, and getting every federal judge that ever heard a case related to it to participate so it's existence never came to light. Missiles on a boat are easy next to that.

The Iranian government stole the election ?

I'm sure having Biden vs Trump in office has greatly improved the situation for them, but I just think it's a bit beyond their means to pull off.


*we* could certainly conceal a missile launcher on a cargo ship. We've done a lot more complicated than that (see Glomar Challenger), but *Iran* pulling that off is another matter entirely.

 

[spat]

The World may have turned out better if we ignored them.

Nah, I'm glad I don't have to speak German. Too much phlem.

 

[GOPerfect]

Nah, I'm glad I don't have to speak German. Too much phlem.

If Hitler were to have won, no guarantee that he would have come after the US.

 

[spat]

Let's go Brandon?

Oh, I stand corrected, I did mention him.

I still stand by the comment that if it wasn't him it would have been some other guy like him.

Maybe some details would have changed, but probably not much important.

Maybe those mustaches would still be popular, who knows.

It's a safe bet the Jews would have been the scape goat again though, they've just been the go-to "all your problems are because of those guys" group throughout most of history.

 

[spat]

If Hitler were to have won, no guarantee that he would have come after the US.

100% guaranteed he would have come after the US.

His entire regime was predicated on an expansionist war.

Nazi Germany was destined to collapse, the only question was whether they would conquer the world and collapse from the lack of enemies, or die trying first.

NAZI Germany could not peacefully coexist with anyone, and thinking that they could transform their society into something else that could is folly.

 

[GOPerfect]

100% guaranteed he would have come after the US.

His entire regime was predicated on an expansionist war.

Nazi Germany was destined to collapse, the only question was whether they would conquer the world and collapse from the lack of enemies, or die trying first.

NAZI Germany could not peacefully coexist with anyone, and thinking that they could transform their society into something else that could is folly.

I disagree....

While Germany did land a handful of sabotage agents via U-Boat, there was simply no way of bringing an army across the sea. To mount a successful invasion would have required a forward staging base – such as how the U.S. Army was able to deploy not from America but from Great Britain.

Fighting in Europe and Russia was one thing, attacking a Nation, 6000 miles away would not have occurred in the 40's

 

[spat]

I disagree....

While Germany did land a handful of sabotage agents via U-Boat, there was simply no way of bringing an army across the sea. To mount a successful invasion would have required a forward staging base – such as how the U.S. Army was able to deploy not from America but from Great Britain.

Fighting in Europe and Russia was one thing, attacking a Nation, 6000 miles away would not have occurred in the 40's

Not all at once.

But, if they defeated Europe (and Russia), then certainly they would have been here inside of 10 years.

Remember, they wouldn't be invading from just Germany. They would have all that conquered land to invade from.

They might have decided to establish a foothold in south or Central America first.

Or maybe go into Alaska then Canada.

Also, for Germany to win, that would mean Japan was winning too. They would probably hold Hawaii and parts of Alaska at that point.

 

[SomeSoldier]

The World may have turned out better if we ignored them.

I think it we just left WWI alone 2 would have never happened. It wasn't our fight. Just like this.