Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

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spat said:
Everyone knows how to do it. Hell, *I* know how.

But it takes an enormous industrial capacity to actually produce a usable quantity.

They have been working on it for a long time. We have sabotaged them, the Isrealis have bombed their facilities, but it was always just a matter of time before they accumulated enough.

Uranium is not difficult to purify, it just takes a lot of work.

That also means they aren't likely to have very many bombs.

Once you're set up for plutonium, then you can crank them out. But uranium is very time consuming.
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I agree, But they have the capacity to do it , like you said some plants were bombed . Which means they have the knowledge, they were working on it. What We dont know is if they were able to secure enough in labs over the years that were never known about.

Given the time they have, had I dont doubt they have secured enough to make a few dozen .
 
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livingston said:

Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israeli Civilians ‘Justifed’​

Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified.
This Harvard Caps Harris Poll was taken before the death toll increased to 1,400.
Does anyone have any more questions about how something like the Holocaust could happen?
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Nolte: Majority Aged 18-24 Say Hamas Massacre of Israelis Was 'Justified'

Polling shows that a majority of those aged 18-24 believe that Hamas’s massacre of 1,200 Israeli civilians in Israel was “justified.”
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com

These results were all over the map ... Most supported Israel in the intended response
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Give it a little time, when it happens here, and it sure as shit will if we get involved in a big way , they will change their tune.

Millions of aliens have entered our country over the years, nobody knows their names, where they are or what they are doing.

How many hijackers did it take on 911? just 19.
 
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Willyone said:
Weather is the reason for the delayed ground attack? Hhmmm.
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More like the US is moving assets into position before the party starts.

And dont forget the US humanitarian aid being delivered to Southren Gaza. LOL, its not because we like them , Its simply a ruse to help Israel.
Isreal has asked the Palestinians to move to the South , out of the war zone , Well when they get hungry and smell the cooking in the South , they are going to go where the food is . Its the old carrot and stick routine again .That aid is helping Israel isolate Hamas in the North. Obviously nobody is going to come out and say that, so they virtue signal , and play the angel .
 
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spat said:
No, I think they are actively building a bomb, and may already have one.

I just think the commercial reactors have nothing to do with it.

Their nuclear program is uranium based and they probably have enough material to build a bomb.

Plutonium bombs are hard to build.

Uranium bombs are so easy that the Los Alamos scientists felt the first design didn't even need to be tested, and that was before anyone had ever generated a nuclear explosion anywhere.
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Not tested, and armed in flight on the way to the target
 
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holdover said:
I agree, But they have the capacity to do it , like you said some plants were bombed . Which means they have the knowledge, they were working on it. What We dont know is if they were able to secure enough in labs over the years that were never known about.

Given the time they have, had I dont doubt they have secured enough to make a few dozen .
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In WWII we built the city of Oak Ridge TN from scratch just to purify uranium.

There were 70,000 people working there.

They produced enough uranium for one bomb.

They had such a high priority for materials that when they couldn't find enough copper to make the wiring for the calutrons they shipped 15,000 tons of silver from the Treasury and made wire out if it.

www.nps.gov

uranium - Manhattan Project National Historical Park (U.S. National Park Service)

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Y-12 National Security Complex - Wikipedia

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We built Hanford Washington to create Plutonium in reactors. Once they were running they were making enough for 6 bombs a month.


A uranium bomb requires a lot of resources, but not a lot of expertise.

A plutonium bomb has all sorts of gotchas in the design that requires experts and testing, but it doesn't need a huge amount of resources.
 
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Female IDF combat squad claims to have killed 100 Hamas terrorists: ‘A strong squad’
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I have noticed that the IDF loves to tout their female soldiers, their fierceness, elitism, how they are superior snipers, etc, etc.
My personal opinion is 90% of women are not suitable for a combat role, emotionally or physically. Yes, I have worked with female soldiers and unfortunately female leadership as well. Are the Israeli's just able to make a better product than America or is this puffed up propaganda?
 
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Cavalry said:
I have noticed that the IDF loves to tout their female soldiers, their fierceness, elitism, how they are superior snipers, etc, etc.
My personal opinion is 90% of women are not suitable for a combat role, emotionally or physically. Yes, I have worked with female soldiers and unfortunately female leadership as well. Are the Israeli's just able to make a better product than America or is this puffed up propaganda?
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They may, on average, not be up to the standards for the Isreali male soldiers.

But, they're going to be light years ahead of anything Hamas has, and when you already have all your men doing military service, and you need more, where do you go ?
 
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Arjuna said:
Are Biden and Obama on Israel’s side? Recent actions raise questions
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Obama Gifts Hamas a Ready-Made Excuse for Its Next Terror Attack​

Former President Barack Obama — known for his oratory skills in saying one thing and meaning another — is in lockstep with the Israeli as oppressor narrative.
In a statement published Monday on Medium, Obama started with the familiar line that “Israel has a right to defend its citizens” and root out Hamas following its “horrific” surprise attack on Oct. 7.
However, it didn’t take long for Obama to shift gears. The third paragraph began, “But even as we support Israel, we should also be clear that how Israel prosecutes this fight against Hamas matters.”
By the fifth paragraph, Obama geared up to give Hamas a ready-made excuse for its next terrorist attack, warning that “any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire.”
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Obama Gifts Hamas a Ready-Made Excuse for Its Next Terror Attack

The former president started out by conceding "Israel has a right to defend its citizens," but it didn't take long for him to shift gears.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
 
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Looks like militant groups used drones to attack and injure "2 dozen" American military service members in the region.

www.nbcnews.com

Drone attacks on American bases injured two dozen U.S. military personnel

The groups conducting the attacks are supported by Iran and its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a Pentagon spokesman said.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

This is not good at all.


Ww3 says hello there.
 
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