Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

[Willyone]

Won't that be a war crime if the Hezbollah fighters have some civilian hookers in the trenches with them ?

What?!? They gave up goats?

 

[holdover]

What makes you think you are *entitled* to any evidence from Isreal about this ?

They're going to do what they need to do, and they're going to give no fucks about what your opinion on it is.

Whether something is a war crime or not depends on what the Isrealis knew at the time. Not what @holdover hears about it in the news.

If they cant demonstrate the proof , then dont cry about people condemning their actions . I have every right to question what Im told . I dont give a fuck what their opinions are either. . whether something is a war crime depends on the law.

 

[holdover]

If they cant demonstrate the proof , then dont cry about people condemning their actions . I have every right to question what Im told . I dont give a fuck what their opinions are either. . whether something is a war crime depends on the law. Holdover doesn't put much credence in the news

 

[holdover]

Hamas is an irregular wing of the Iranian military.

They have all those things.

no they dont. where are you getting this shit from ? Show me a picture of the airforces of hamas or the hamas navy.

para gliders and zodiac rafts dont count

 

[holdover]

What?!? They gave up goats?

No.

 

[spat]

If they cant demonstrate the proof , then dont cry about people condemning their actions . I have every right to question what Im told . I dont give a fuck what their opinions are either. . whether something is a war crime depends on the law.

No, it depends on the facts.

None of which you know without trusting *someone*, since you aren't there.

 

[spat]

no they dont. where are you getting this shit from ? Show me a picture of the airforces of hamas or the hamas navy.

para gliders and zodiac rafts dont count

Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis are literally on the Iranian payroll.

As much as the Mujahideen were on the US payroll in the 80s.

Everybody knows this,

 

[spat]

no they dont. where are you getting this shit from ? Show me a picture of the airforces of hamas or the hamas navy.

para gliders and zodiac rafts dont count

Iran deploys 2 warships to Gulf of Aden

A government spokesman also said that oil from an Iranian tanker pursued by the U.S. has been sold to an unnamed buyer.

www.navytimes.com

Iranian navy.

 

[holdover]

Iran deploys 2 warships to Gulf of Aden

A government spokesman also said that oil from an Iranian tanker pursued by the U.S. has been sold to an unnamed buyer.

www.navytimes.com

Iranian navy.

no.

 

[holdover]

Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis are literally on the Iranian payroll.

As much as the Mujahideen were on the US payroll in the 80s.

Everybody knows this,

Yes, but that doesn't mean they can use Iranian navy and air force to attack Israel,

 

[holdover]

No, it depends on the facts.

None of which you know without trusting *someone*, since you aren't there.

It depends on the law and the facts. And I havent been to gaza in a few days so your right, I dont know, You dont know. but not knowing gives me reason to ask . Its perfectly legit .

 

[spat]

Yes, but that doesn't mean they can use Iranian navy and air force to attack Israel,

No, just like the US Nrmy can't use M1 Abrams to attack Hezbollah.

But you can't say that means the Navy can't wipe out Hezbollah.

You would say the US can.

Just like Iran is a real threat to Isreal. Claiming their one irregular terrorist arm isn't is irrelevant.

 

[spat]

It depends on the law and the facts. And I havent been to gaza in a few days so your right, I dont know, You dont know. but not knowing gives me reason to ask . Its perfectly legit .

International law is not quite as concrete as national law.

And nobody's stopping you from questioning things. We're just saying your particular brand of moral equivalency is problematic.

It really smells a lot like the leftist notion that because Isreal is far stronger, they *must* be the bad guys.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Defilade]

Israel will instantly turn its back on America to the highest bidder. Already has. Always will. Israel = Coerced vaxxing, LBGT, sex-changes-pushing…like Blue-America. Bibi Netanyahu is WEF/CCP. Openly. Not even vaguely hidden.

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[fresch]

How is it that if x amount of your people are killed you can only kill x amount of the attackers people?

 

[kev74]

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Oops. Too late.

 

[spat]

How is it that if x amount of your people are killed you can only kill x amount of the attackers people?

How is it when your enemy is promising to continue intentionally targetting your civilians , people will still claim you can't fight back.

Hamas member says they will repeat attacks until Israel is destroyed

Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of Hamas, has welcomed the large-scale attack on Israel on 7 October, during which civilians were killed en masse, and promised that the Palestinian terrorist group would repeat such attacks many times in the future until it destroyed Israel.

news.yahoo.com

 

[GTN]

How is it when your enemy is promising to continue intentionally targetting your civilians , people will still claim you can't fight back.

Hamas member says they will repeat attacks until Israel is destroyed

Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of Hamas, has welcomed the large-scale attack on Israel on 7 October, during which civilians were killed en masse, and promised that the Palestinian terrorist group would repeat such attacks many times in the future until it destroyed Israel.

news.yahoo.com

And that right there is why Israel should and has every right to continue with what they are doing.

Edit: let’s say your family has 6 kids and there is a large gang that lives next door. They come over and kill one of your kids and vow to come kill more of them next week.
Do you go over there and kill just one or do you go kill them all before they kill more of your family.
Seems simple to me

 

[kev74]

Still trying to figure out what a "proportionate" response is to the unprovoked kidnapping, raping, dismembering and murdering civilians.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Come on man. you act as if hundreds of people are being killed everyday . Isreali defense forces do a pretty good job protecting its people. theres no chance in hell Hamas can wipe out isreal . none . in what scenario do you see them defeating the Isreali army? they have no armor, no airforce No navy , and are out numbered.And the US to back them up Please. Look at them right now , they almost surrounded, cut off from food and water and supplies.

Proportionate to the percentage of population, what happened in that first day would be equal to over 30,000 US citizens being killed in one day. I can only imagine your reaction to that day in and day out. Nope, you didn't piss me off. It's just that with each and every point brought up last night and this morning I see, you ignore the logic and revert back to your right to question. Sure, question away. You just seem to be a one string banjo.

 

[Dr. Evil]

And that right there is why Israel should and has every right to continue with what they are doing.

Edit: let’s say your family has 6 kids and there is a large gang that lives next door. They come over and kill one of your kids and vow to come kill more of them next week.
Do you go over there and kill just one or do you go kill them all before they kill more of your family.
Seems simple to me

I tried this last night. Obviously I wasn't too successful lol.

 

[wirehairfan]

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I didn't think it was possible but you've outdone yourself.

 

[GTN]

This thread has become nothing but a pissing match. It started off great as a reporting of what was going on. Now it’s just opinions of what should be done and what shouldn’t be done and it’s obvious there’s certain people here that just hate Jews.
And yes, I do take the anti-Jew comments personally because all I really care about is if my family is still alive

 

[Bigfoot]

This thread has become nothing but a pissing match. It started off great as a reporting of what was going on. Now it’s just opinions of what should be done and what shouldn’t be done and it’s obvious there’s certain people here that just hate Jews.
And yes, I do take the anti-Jew comments personally because all I really care about is if my family is still alive

Another forum that I belong to has two threads on this subject. One thread is only for reporting of what was/is going on. The second thread is for opinions like what this thread has turned into.
It works out pretty well like that.

 

[spat]

Proportionate to the percentage of population, what happened in that first day would be equal to over 30,000 US citizens being killed in one day. I can only imagine your reaction to that day in and day out. Nope, you didn't piss me off. It's just that with each and every point brought up last night and this morning I see, you ignore the logic and revert back to your right to question. Sure, question away. You just seem to be a one string banjo.

Proportionally, Oct 7th was a bigger attack than Pearl Harbor.

For pearl harbor we utterly annihilated their military, largely rewrote their culture, and dropped the sun on them. Twice.

 

[spat]

no Im not. the problem is that can be used to hit anything anytime they want . without verification sky is the limit . What targets cant they hit? tell me?

Why *would* Isreal want to hit a non military target ?

Isreal is conducting a military campaign to exterminate Hamas and the threat they created.

It is against their interests to hit anything else. Particularly any civilian targets.

Hamas OTOH explicitly claim to be conducting a terror campaign *designed* around striking civilian targets and avoiding military ones when possible.

So, yea, I believe Isreal when they say something wasn't a civilian target. Because it's not in their interest to strike them.

And I also believe Hamas when they throw a parade because they killed some school children.

The real question is why do *you* think Isreal would intentionally target a civilian camp or hospital ?

I think the answer to that question says a lot about you.

 

[Deplorable Me]

How to deal with Hamas Tunnels:

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

The first casualty of war is truth

paraphrased

attributed : Aeschylus ?459 BC; Senator Hiram Johnson 1919,

 

[holdover]

Still trying to figure out what a "proportionate" response is to the unprovoked kidnapping, raping, dismembering and murdering civilians.

yeah.