Kamala Harris - Biden's Choice for VP (merged threads)

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GOPerfect said:
I am a bit surprised, amazed and dismayed all at the same time here on this forum.
People here actually think this pick will help this near dead old man?
Wow. I am thinking my original number of 347 is a bit on the low side now.
Trump won re-election, five minutes after her name was announced.
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We see things pretty differently on this I suppose. I think they could run a literal potato and still have a landslide victory over Trump right now.
 
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spat said:
The premise of the argument was that no better options were available.

Certainly if that's sitting next to a G19 or even a hipoint I'm not taking it.

But if it's that or a feather duster, I'm grabbing the abortion of a pistol.
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If the LAW rocket is behind the door with the 10 locks, I'm putting my key in that door.
 
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spat said:
You are deliberately ignoring the original premise.

Your choice is that thing or nothing. There is no better option available.
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Because you won't vote for your principles.
 
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I have been known in my lifetime to throw down a protest vote or two. And on occasion, to vote for "the lesser of two evils."

Here? Nope. Biden or Trump? I can't in good conscience vote for either of them. Regardless of if my vote "matters" or not. Fuck em both.
 
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Darth said:
Because you won't vote for your principles.
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Yep. And because 100 million other people won't either, your candidate can't win.

And PS. There is *no* candidate on the ballot that agrees with all of my principles, and I suspect that goes for almost everyone in the country.

So, once you have accepted that you need to compromise your principles to cast *any* ballot, then the logical conclusion is to cast the ballot that will bring the country most in line with your principles.

Really, in NYS, you have no choices. You can vote for whoever you want and it's irrelevant. It's a placebo to make you feel like you have a say. Here a vote for a libertarian or whoever can make sense, it's not going to affect the outcome and it can make a statement.

But if you live in PA it's another story entirely.
 
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spat said:
Yep. And because 100 million other people won't either, your candidate can't win.

And PS. There is *no* candidate on the ballot that agrees with all of my principles, and I suspect that goes for almost everyone in the country.

So, once you have accepted that you need to compromise your principles to cast *any* ballot, then the logical conclusion is to cast the ballot that will bring the country most in line with your principles.

Really, in NYS, you have no choices. You can vote for whoever you want and it's irrelevant. It's a placebo to make you feel like you have a say. Here a vote for a libertarian or whoever can make sense, it's not going to affect the outcome and it can make a statement.

But if you live in PA it's another story entirely.
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Nobody has said "all of my principles" except those pathetically trying to justify wasting their vote on one of the 2 parties.
 
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Darth said:
Nobody has said "all of my principles" except those pathetically trying to justify wasting their vote on one of the 2 parties.
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You have no vote in NY, so.you can't waste it.

They will let you show up and submit a ballot, but that's like the kid in the back seat with a plastic steering wheel pretending he's the one driving.

There are places where any vote for anyone *other* than the 2 parties is wasted though.


Voting in NY, it's like this:

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spat said:
You have no vote in NY, so.you can't waste it.

They will let you show up and submit a ballot, but that's like the kid in the back seat with a plastic steering wheel pretending he's the one driving.

There are places where any vote for anyone *other* than the 2 parties is wasted though.


Voting in NY, it's like this:

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But you know what it does do? Show the number of dissatisfied voters.

So you absolutly should not waste a vote for an R or D here. Especially here.
 
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Don’t take this as an attack on you specifically. I’m just trying to understand the logic.

So when you get a candidate that you agree with on certain issues that’s perfect for you that actually gets the nomination (Let’s use the disbandment of NFA and no tariffs as an example that you really care about), should others that do not care about tariffs or are for tariffs or actually believe in the NFA, not vote for your candidate and instead bow out or write on the ballot, “none of the above” to in turn allow the worse candidate that is for open borders and more gun laws for example to have a greater chance of winning?

How does that further their lives? Now instead of getting a candidate in there that is for the closing of open orders which is important to them and their business, they do nothing because they do no agree with the disbandment of the NFA. Now borders will open even more further affecting their businesses. You don’t get your tariffs, NFA disbandment, and your open borders closed and others don’t get their open borders closed. Now we all lose when Biden relaxes more immigration laws, passed a federal AWB, and increases tariffs for argument’s sake.
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Oh there’s layers here.

Now that I think about it a bit, I think part of it is that I’ve always played the outsider. I grew up in a suburban area where Asians outnumbered caucasians by 3:1. I was the only kid in high school who didn’t vote for Ralph Nader and the Green Party when I turned 18, lol, And to my knowledge I think I also may have been the only one proficient with a gun there too (Ricardo the charismatic drug dealer and Chucky the shady fella maybe did). I’ve always had quirky tastes - I like wagons and big 50s Cadillacs when nobody in my age group does. When we got married 10 years ago, we were one of the only interracial couples we saw around. I could go on. But maybe my teen rebellion or something deeper never really left me.
 
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Currently watching the Tucker Carlson show. He is tearing into Kamala Harris. I haven't laughed this hard in a while. His show is rebroadcast later tonight. I recommend you tape it if possible. It's laugh out loud funny.
 
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BDinPutnam said:
I have been known in my lifetime to throw down a protest vote or two. And on occasion, to vote for "the lesser of two evils."

Here? Nope. Biden or Trump? I can't in good conscience vote for either of them. Regardless of if my vote "matters" or not. Fuck em both.
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You deserve what you vote for.
Or what you don't vote for.
You better just drive em' to your local PD now and hand em' in. It'll save you the knock on your door.
Orange man bad, and you showed him!
 
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