Kel Tec KSG

[kgun12]

Does anyone have a Kel Tec KSG and if so pros and cons?



I've watched this but would like to here what you all thought, this might be my next purchase!

 

[NY Leatherneck]

I like it. Somewhat of a knuckle buster with slugs and 00buck using an afg2 on it. Added a recoil pad and will reposition my hand to see if that does the trick. Anyway, here is it with all it's HD bells and whistles....& Pros...holds alot of shells, very maneuverable being a bullpup and pretty lightweight plus cool as hell.

 

[FRANKIE]

Don't know if there's any substance to it, but;

An attorney in Virginia preparing a lawsuit that they will likely file against Kel-Tec and ProMag Industries.

It appears that their client was shooting a Kel-Tec KSG equipped with a ProMag “Archangel” polymer forward grip when tragedy occurred.
Most likely the users fault. In the case of using a forward grip, just be cautious. Heard of a few incidents.

 

[GUNSICK]

I am very happy with mine. Compact, high capacity and accurate.

 

[CarpNY]

It appears that their client was shooting a Kel-Tec KSG equipped with a ProMag “Archangel” polymer forward grip when tragedy occurred.

The Archangel Foregrip is held on with a small plastic nub:

Compare that with Magpul's two metal bars:

Not sure that either was intended for use on a pump (far greater forces than just hanging on a semi), but if I had to choose one to protect my hand with, I know which one it would be.

Regardless, it's worth noting that KSG's bottom rail is plastic and there have been reports of it breaking, too:

 

[NY Leatherneck]

As for the bottom rails, I feel although substatial enough, I dont think a vertical grip is the best solution. Whether any broken rails are from normal use ....I highly doubt it. Probably bad installs, cheap parts or some guy trying to show off. Lower profile forward grips/hand stops are out there which put less strain on the rail than the vertical, keeps 2 hands on the gun, and maintain more or a streamlined firearm.

 

[CarpNY]

As for the bottom rails, I feel although substatial enough, I dont think a vertical grip is the best solution. Whether any broken rails are from normal use ....I highly doubt it. Probably bad installs, cheap parts or some guy trying to show off. Lower profile forward grips/hand stops are out there which put less strain on the rail than the vertical, keeps 2 hands on the gun, and maintain more or a streamlined firearm.

I would say, based on the pictures, that the first one was bad parts combined with going crazy with the pump. The second looks like a particularly heavy grip/light combo to be hanging off of a plastic rail that is attached to a pump. Regardless, I agree that an AFG or the like would be a better choice.

 

[Marine Cpl]

When I had mine, I put a metal riser rail to prevent the plastic rails from breaking. Then I saw a post on another gun forum that it wasn't necessary as long as the grip has 2 bars to hold it in the rail rather than just 1 nub. (Like the Magpul one. Mine was a Larue.)

I took off the metal riser and used it aggressively like that with a well built grip directly on the plastic rails and had no issues.

 

[kgun12]

Thank everyone!

 

[Podmonkey]

Look the guy that blew his hand off admits it was his fault. He was racking and pulling the trigger as fast as he could, no control. Now I'll do that too on the range for shits and giggles, but If my hand slips off the forend of my Mossberg it ain't getting in front of the barrel. If I had a KSG I would replace the rail with the strongest toughest option available, along with a sturdy forward grip. And I would operate the gun more deliberately.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Just dont use a foreatd grip. Problem solved.

I was playing with ine that had a fwd grip.....i thought the fwd grip sucked.

 

[Podmonkey]

Wouldn't your hand be more likely to slip off without something to hang onto?

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Wouldn't your hand be more likely to slip off without something to hang onto?

Has your hand ever slipped off a pump gun before?

You have more feel holding on the regular forend...you also use less force.

 

[Podmonkey]

Has your hand ever slipped off a pump gun before?

You have more feel holding on the regular forend...you also use less force.

Well I just wonder cause the forend of the KSG looks really wide and kinda slick, unlike the the only one my mossy which I can really clamp down on. Is this not the case?

 

[ImpeachObama]

My combo works for me.

 

[Podmonkey]

So with the angle grips you are relying on the little nub up front to keep your hand in place? Seems dicey to me. A semi auto KSG would be kick ass!

 

[ImpeachObama]

I haven't shot it a lot. I keep the hand back on that fore grip pretty good. I'm not over crazy with racking. Killed an Armadillo with it at some distance. Maybe 30 yards or so. I blew his head off. My neighbor was with me and he went and picked him up. So I handed him my KSG, took my smartphone out of my back pocket and took his picture. Its ready for zombies.

 

[Podmonkey]

 

[CaseHardened]

I waited three years until the prices got reasonable.

Then, as a Hillary Victory seemed certain, I whacked my Credit Card and got one off GB for $700.

Have not shot it yet !

But am very pleased.

If the SHTF it will not leave my side.

 

[Podmonkey]

How are these things when it comes to clearing storages? How much access do you have to the action?

 

[NY Leatherneck]

So with the angle grips you are relying on the little nub up front to keep your hand in place? Seems dicey to me. A semi auto KSG would be kick ass!

I would assume you haven't held one yet. AFG is insurance but not required. Being concious of firearms safety and the compact nature of the ksg is all you really need.

 

[Podmonkey]

I would assume you haven't held one yet. AFG is insurance but not required. Being concious of firearms safety and the compact nature of the ksg is all you really need.

My point is that it seems to me that grip would provide good traction and mechanical leverage when working the action to the rear, but not back forward.

 

[Marine Cpl]

For those who are concerned about shooting their hand off.....

 

[Podmonkey]

I'd like to try a KSG sometime. Do you all suppose a KSG can take the the high, extreme even, levels of abuse that my 590A1 has? While I love my Mossy, and it has served me well for years it is a big and awkward ol beast.

 

[Uzi]

I wouldn't shoot one of those, at least prefer to without an extended forward grip. I always see them on KSG's and to me it just makes sense. I've held a few and they're cool, but my current set up with the stock folded and 18" barrel is just fine for me with a forward grip. Oh yeah, and it looks cooler that way.

 

[togmaster]

It's a really cool gun and something I would eventually like to have but... So many other guns I NEED first.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

mechanical leverage .

Exactly. And this is what helps to break them.

Obviously, get a good grip (sloted screw compression style as noted above) upgrade the rail. Maybe put the grip a bit farther back...

And just be aware on what you are doing and all should be fine.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

It's a really cool gun and something I would eventually like to have but... So many other guns I NEED first.

Problem with me is I didn't need it until I saw it in person picking up another gun from my ffl.

 

[NY Leatherneck]

I'd like to try a KSG sometime. Do you all suppose a KSG can take the the high, extreme even, levels of abuse that my 590A1 has? While I love my Mossy, and it has served me well for years it is a big and awkward ol beast.

Cant say since it is a new design and doesnt have the history yet. I can tell you, on my first outing it shot slugs and 00buck without falling apart or me losing my hand. It's a niche gun and a fun gun. Am I looking to use it for a skeet shoot, No!....but neither will I be going to a 26"vented barrel o/u for H/D.

 

[WileyX585]

Exactly. And this is what helps to break them.

Obviously, get a good grip (sloted screw compression style as noted above) upgrade the rail. Maybe put the grip a bit farther back...

And just be aware on what you are doing and all should be fine.

Agreed. It really isn't that much of a concern as long as your not an idiot. How many people blow there hand off "cleaning" a handgun? Don't let one idiot ruin it for everyone. I've put a few thousand rounds down range with no grip and no issues. Be aware of what you are doing.