LA buys an EV fire truck for $1.2 million and it only runs for 2 hours on battery power

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Of course the article lacks details, but it says it only runs for two hours on battery power. I’ve never seen a fire truck at a fire scene for less than two hours. They paid 1.2 million for it and I would assume that’s a heavy premium for it. Not worth it IMO.
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From the article:

City of Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley debuted the vehicle outside the LAFD historical museum in Hollywood and touted its capabilities: “It will reduce noise, and bring it basically to nothing in regards to diesel emissions. We will actually create the space for our firefighters to be healthier around our fire engines.”
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A bit about the Chief:

Kristin M. Crowley is the 19th Fire Chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD). With her wife and children by her side, Chief Crowley took the oath of office on March 25, 2022 – becoming the first female and LGBTQ Fire Chief in the LAFD.


Chief Crowley leads a diverse department – about 3,400 sworn and more than 350 civilians – in protecting four million people in Los Angeles (LA) – the Nation’s second-largest City. From the ocean to the mountains, the Valley to the Port of LA, the LAFD responds to over 1,300 emergency calls a day.



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C3D said:
From the article:




A bit about the Chief:

Kristin M. Crowley is the 19th Fire Chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD). With her wife and children by her side, Chief Crowley took the oath of office on March 25, 2022 – becoming the first female and LGBTQ Fire Chief in the LAFD.


Chief Crowley leads a diverse department – about 3,400 sworn and more than 350 civilians – in protecting four million people in Los Angeles (LA) – the Nation’s second-largest City. From the ocean to the mountains, the Valley to the Port of LA, the LAFD responds to over 1,300 emergency calls a day.



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Saltwater60 said:
Of course the article lacks details, but it says it only runs for two hours on battery power. I’ve never seen a fire truck at a fire scene for less than two hours. They paid 1.2 million for it and I would assume that’s a heavy premium for it. Not worth it IMO.
www.carscoops.com

LAFD Takes Delivery Of First Electric Fire Truck In North America | Carscoops

Other fire departments will also receive their order soon
www.carscoops.com www.carscoops.com
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So I am not defending this piece of shit engine (that’s also fugly) but if they are going on ems runs, fire alarms, smells and bells calls with this electric engine it will likely have enough battery power to go on those calls. Even many fires in big career departments are picking up companies in an hour or so. My biggest bitch about the thing is a bunch of politicians spent 7-800,000 more of the taxpayers dollars on this electric engine vs a traditional diesel powered engine so they could say look how great we are. That money would have been better spent on multiple diesel powered engines or more staffing or training. I don’t care for politicians using tax payer dollars to fund their eco nazi dick swinging contest.
 
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C3D said:
From the article:




A bit about the Chief:

Kristin M. Crowley is the 19th Fire Chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD). With her wife and children by her side, Chief Crowley took the oath of office on March 25, 2022 – becoming the first female and LGBTQ Fire Chief in the LAFD.


Chief Crowley leads a diverse department – about 3,400 sworn and more than 350 civilians – in protecting four million people in Los Angeles (LA) – the Nation’s second-largest City. From the ocean to the mountains, the Valley to the Port of LA, the LAFD responds to over 1,300 emergency calls a day.



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99cummins said:
So I am not defending this piece of shit engine (that’s also fugly) but if they are going on ems runs, fire alarms, smells and bells calls with this electric engine it will likely have enough battery power to go on those calls. Even many fires in big career departments are picking up companies in an hour or so. My biggest bitch about the thing is a bunch of politicians spent 7-800,000 more of the taxpayers dollars on this electric engine vs a traditional diesel powered engine so they could say look how great we are. That money would have been better spent on multiple diesel powered engines or more staffing or training. I don’t care for politicians using tax payer dollars to fund their eco nazi dick swinging contest.
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Agreed. However it seems like it’s to fight fires since it has a 5” and 2” hose and pumping system. I agree if it was for quick EMS calls, but it’s not. How fast do you think that 5” pump will drain the battery? I know it has a backup, but I agree and my point was this is for show at tax payers expense.
 
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A pump capable of feeding a 5” line likely takes several hundred hp to drive. Personally, I’d be surprised if it could keep up for an hour at full flow. While I’m sure there are use cases for EV’s in the fire service, this one isn’t it.
 
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99cummins said:
So I am not defending this piece of shit engine (that’s also fugly) but if they are going on ems runs, fire alarms, smells and bells calls with this electric engine it will likely have enough battery power to go on those calls. Even many fires in big career departments are picking up companies in an hour or so. My biggest bitch about the thing is a bunch of politicians spent 7-800,000 more of the taxpayers dollars on this electric engine vs a traditional diesel powered engine so they could say look how great we are. That money would have been better spent on multiple diesel powered engines or more staffing or training. I don’t care for politicians using tax payer dollars to fund their eco nazi dick swinging contest.
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Virtue Signaling can be expensive.

I think it's almost a form of conspicuous consumption.

That electric motor is the leftist equivalent of solid gold hubcaps.
 
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Jsmegs77 said:
A pump capable of feeding a 5” line likely takes several hundred hp to drive. Personally, I’d be surprised if it could keep up for an hour at full flow. While I’m sure there are use cases for EV’s in the fire service, this one isn’t it.
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That’s my point. I can’t imagine how much that takes and would drain that battery in a heartbeat. Oh well. I’m sure NYS won’t be far behind.
 
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My area it takes 15-20 minutes to get the fire department going before they are hosing down a fire.

Back when there were more volunteer fire departments, the response time was ~10 minutes or less. A LOT can happen in an additional 10 minutes with lives and structures as I recently experienced with my neighbor's house.

Talk about taking two steps backwards.
 
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ManualF150 said:
The article says: In addition to the electric drivetrain, the truck has a diesel range extender, which is a BMW 3.0-liter six-cylinder unit capable of 300 horsepower.

What a waste.
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Fire apparatus are running constantly from the time they leave the station to the time they get back. They never get turned off. My guess is that 'extender' will run the same way.
 
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CA should just pass a law requiring a minimum of (1) Emergency Service Receptacle, 240v/400amp, for each residential dwelling unit, or 480v/600amp for each 5,000 square feet of commercial space.

Now your electric firetruck is totally feasible.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
CA should just pass a law requiring a minimum of (1) Emergency Service Receptacle, 240v/400amp, for each residential dwelling unit, or 480v/600amp for each 5,000 square feet of commercial space.

Now your electric firetruck is totally feasible.
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They cut the power on buildings that are on fire. Good idea though!

Why not just pass a law banning fire. It worked for drugs, right?

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kev74 said:
They cut the power on buildings that are on fire. Good idea though!

Why not just pass a law banning fire. It worked for drugs, right?

:ROFL:
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You have to provide power for your neighbor's emergency service. They will happily (mandated) do the same for you.

It would be great to see the electric firetruck pull up to a large structure fire, and all the FF's jump out and start rolling out the hoses extension cords.
 
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