Letter of "Just Cause" - Would like feedback!

[pslovejackie]

Good luck to her! Putnam county boarders Westchester, so I imagine that impacts our county's more strict regulations.
She might get approved before I do! Hahah

 

[cgrutt]

cgrutt,
Oh absolutely! Never had a misconception about that whatsoever. Only would prefer it over the sportsmen license due to it possibly being easier to obtaiin

I think you're not fully getting what I'm saying... there are no other options it's the same license / same process. If you're issued a CCW in NYS it's a full concealed carry license good in the home or on your person throughout NYS except for NYC and certain other areas eg school grounds, federal buildings etc. Your county may put administrative restrictions on it such as Sportsman. This is still the same license it's just now further restricted as to where you may carry concealed (and as @Darth pointed out carry no force of law but your licensing officer may revoke at anytime if you are caught carrying outside those restrictions). It's all the same license though. There is a separate type of license used primarily in NYC called a premises licence which you would not be able to carry on your person outside of premises stated on permit. Ignore all of this it's not what you'll be receiving. The Sportsman license is good in home and for the so called Sportsman activities. If there are no restrictions it is usually marked "Unrestricted" by county but it is still same license as the Sportsman and also good within your home. Hope this helps. Good luck.

 

[pslovejackie]

I think you're not fully getting what I'm saying... there are no other options it's the same license / same process. If you're issued a CCW in NYS it's a full concealed carry license good in the home or on your person throughout NYS except for NYC and certain other areas eg school grounds, federal buildings etc. Your county may put administrative restrictions on it such as Sportsman. This is still the same license it's just now further restricted as to where you may carry concealed (and as @Darth pointed out carry no force of law but your licensing officer may revoke at anytime if you are caught carrying outside those restrictions). It's all the same license though. There is a separate type of license used primarily in NYC called a premises licence which you would not be able to carry on your person outside of premises stated on permit. Ignore all of this it's not what you'll be receiving. The Sportsman license is good in home and for the so called Sportsman activities. If there are no restrictions it is usually marked "Unrestricted" by county but it is still same license as the Sportsman and also good within your home. Hope this helps. Good luck.

Thank you for taking the time to explain that - I was perceiving the various restrictions as various types of permits/license.

 

[cgrutt]

Thank you for taking the time to explain that - I was perceiving the various restrictions as various types of permits.

No worries good luck. Think of them as restrictions where you may carry concealed outside the home per your licensing officer. Unfortunately each county does it differently so there is a lot of confusion throughout state. Important thing is it is in fact a concealed carry permit and certainly good for home defense you dont need another permit.

 

[GOYABEAN]

I think the judge that handled permits passed away recently maybe New one added more hoops to jump through

 

[pslovejackie]

No worries good luck. Think of them as restrictions where you may carry concealed outside the home per your licensing officer. Unfortunately each county does it differently so there is a lot of confusion throughout state. Important thing is it is in fact a concealed carry permit and certainly good for home defense you dont need another permit.

Yeah, the language on the Putnam county application refers to the restrictions as "types of carry licenses" which is what threw me off.
Thanks again, have a good one sir!

 

[BDinPutnam]

Wow. 3 days. My fiance submitted his application so long ago, I don't even remember when he submitted it and we're still waiting.

What did he apply for and did he have to put in a letter?

 

[pslovejackie]

What did he apply for and did he have to put in a letter?

He applied for hunting & target and did have to submit a letter as well.

 

[Acer-m14]

if i was a girl my just cause letter would be .. i don't want to be the lady from NJ .. ( Carol Bowne )

but we shouldn't even have to ask permission to begin with ..

the guys here gave you lots of info .. wish ya good luck and a speedy PP ..

 

[Chevusa]

I agree this is too long. My letter (different county) was short and a big thing was including that I know and understand Article 35. I was given Unrestricted. It's quite sad that you'd need to justify "Sportsperson". What is the alternative permit if they deny that? I cant think of anything more restrictive than that.

 

[Raven20878]

Target

 

[Cooolone]

Putnam County to my knowledge does not require demonstration of "just cause"... Please post a copy of the application where it states that. Unless this is recent. Yes, Judge Reits passed away and was very 2A aware, as is the county. I believe it is (or was) the highest per capita handgun county in the State. Don't quote me though, lol.

Second thing is I smell troll... I'm cynical as is known, lol, and don't buy it when someone joins the forum and their first post is something so extraordinary on th' same day. Pardon me if I'm wrong.

For the matter, your long winded attempt to justify a necessity for exercising a "Right" is unfounded as there is nowhere in the "laws" of NY State where it is written requiring demonstration of "just cause". My response would be simple and succinct... Whether it be written on the application or asked in person (interview).

"FOR ALL LEGAL PURPOSES"

End of conversation...

That's it, no other explanation required. You'll need to figure it all out from there.

Have a nice day!

 

[MoMan]

How about; 'just 'cuz'!! No letter should be required, 'just 'cuz' of that little document known as the Constitution!!

 

[BDinPutnam]

Putnam County to my knowledge does not require demonstration of "just cause"... Please post a copy of the application where it states that. Unless this is recent. Yes, Judge Reits passed away and was very 2A aware, as is the county. I believe it is (or was) the highest per capita handgun county in the State. Don't quote me though, lol.

Second thing is I smell troll... I'm cynical as is known, lol, and don't buy it when someone joins the forum and their first post is something so extraordinary on th' same day. Pardon me if I'm wrong.

For the matter, your long winded attempt to justify a necessity for exercising a "Right" is unfounded as there is nowhere in the "laws" of NY State where it is written requiring demonstration of "just cause". My response would be simple and succinct... Whether it be written on the application or asked in person (interview).

"FOR ALL LEGAL PURPOSES"

End of conversation...

That's it, no other explanation required. You'll need to figure it all out from there.

Have a nice day!

Check the Sherriff's website (google "putnam county ny pistol permit")- apparently this is a rules change from May of this year (see my earlier post).

This does not bode well for our county. I hope the new Judge is half the Judge that James Reitz was. This rule change took effect before the election i.e. before Judge Spofford was elected, so I am not sure who in hell made this change. The (elected) Putnam judge (Reitz) was our "licensing officer" until his untimely death summer 2018- not sure who has been handling this since nor who it is that decided to make this change.

If it stands both the Sherrif and the new judge have lost my vote and I will say so early and often to anyone who will listen.

ETA I had hoped DA Bob Tendy would run for the judicial position but I'm guessing he's happier as a prosecutor (he was formerly with the the DA's office in I believe the Bronx before becoming Supervisor of Putnam Valley and then DA of Putnam County).

 

[Cooolone]

Well, it's not law and I wouldn't participate! Fill out the application and as noted, if questioned "need" or "purpose" is and will be for "all legal purposes"... no explanation needed it required! If interviewed and asked, provide same answer, be nice, but only answer direct questions, don't expand it elaborate as its not required.

When denied be prepared to file the appeal immediately... you'll get your license now matter what goes these people want to play! They can only do this if they are allowed to... And if it's true, is a damned shame and terrible turn on events for Putnam County!