License Canceled After 50 years?
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I think it may also be he is at a better spot in his life where the denial wouldn't hinder him as badly (as say 20 or 30 years ago) and is ready to finally start the fight. He could have been planning this for years and building a case to go to battle
Deplorable Me
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Cancelled firearm permit?
That's right up there with removing people from voter rolls.
That's right up there with removing people from voter rolls.
Hey if the government made it a law to show bank statements before voting and someone said wait no im not going to then the government removed them from the voting station... well there are people here on this gun forum who would say... well thats the law the crown passed so thats how it should be, it's that person's fault they can't vote
Agree totally. The libs like to cry about voting laws, but are just fine with lots of gun laws. They talk about the "sacred right to vote", but shit on the right to bear arms, which was a much higher regarded right (2 vs 15). When will the politicians grow a set of balls and go all out and lobby for our "sacred right to bear arms"?
Saltwater60
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I hope you’re right. This guys seems like no slouch.
I have zero knowledge outside of the article posted and everything is speculation just like many others are doing.
But to me it feels like, he played the game for the last 50 years because he had to, now I'm wondering if maybe he has decided he wants to semi-retire, and revocation/denial whatver we ant to call it, may have less of an impact on his life now than say it did 20 years ago. And so he decided it's the perfect time to strike...
spat
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He probably has the means to fight now and he didn't 50 years ago too.
Plus, 50 years ago the war was not so apparent. He may have just seen it as an annoyance then, but in the last 10 or 20 years it has become obvious that these aren't annoying inconveniences, they are purposeful infringements.
Truebeliever
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That is giving him a benefit of the doubt that might not be there.
And maybe the change in the SCOTUS has had something to do with it? In the past nothing was going to win in the NY Courts or the 2nd Circuit no matter who brought the case.
Saltwater60
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I agree. I didn’t think you had insider knowledge. I was thinking this from the beginning as well.
spat
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Maybe not, but we have zero evidence to suggest otherwise either.
And there hasn't been any other plausible explanation for why he decided to stop turning over the bank records now.
Well duh
But just ending an argument with a nonsensical statement means nothing. We aren't changing any laws in favor of this guy in this thread.
Dont even get me started on the GOP....and not just thr current incarnation.
Seriously, about 99% of Republican voters who vote for "pro gun" politicians are about as dumb as it gets.
There are VERY few GOP politicians who are not just gatekeepers for the political elite.
It is extremely laughable the number of GOP politicians run on a "very strong pro gun stance", just to have zero pro gun votes on their record and even worse, NEVER have supported to vote on a pro gun bill.
So they convince people to vote for them because they are HUGE supporters of the 2nd amendment. But, they never vote to have a pro gun bill to come to the floor.
How dumb are we.
There are GOP politicians who have done this for 40 years....and ALWAYS get re-elected.
It’s not plausible that his income isn’t there anymore to justify it? You do know what plausible means, right?
All I know is this guy had no problem with it for 50 years because he was taken care of. As soon as that stopped he now all of a sudden wants to fight it and do what’s right.
spat
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There is no suggestion anywhere that the income is no longer there.
What makes you think that happened ?
It’s plausible isnt it? As people get older they tend to work less and make less. This is the rule not the exception. Plausible.
spat
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Doesn't matter how hard he works.
He still owns the businesses.
He could sit at home in his PJ's all day, and just tell the guy he's got managing the place to fax over a copy of the financials to the NYPD.
They aren't asking for proof that he does any work with any cash. All they're asking for is proof that some business that he has some relationship with handles some cash.
I *don't* think it's plausible that someone in his position couldn't come up with some flimsy justification if he wanted to.
Please look up the definition For plausible. Is it uncommon or unreasonable for a business in 2021 to be making less money than in the past? Do you live under a rock?
Plausible.
spat
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Doesn't matter if their sales dropped 90%.
He just needs to show he's got *some* cash flow.
If they're still in business they almost surely meet that standard.
Saltwater60
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So the constitution only applies to wealthy people? If he stops making a certain amount of money then he doesn’t need to protect himself?
I know this isn’t your point directly but this is what NYC says and your statement says indirectly. Sounds like a great court case to me.
I said and inferred none of that whatsoever.
spat
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It's racist if they only give permits to wealthy white guys, right ?
We’d need to see the requirements. If anyone in any business whatsoever met the standards, well, we already know that’s not the case or everyone would have the permits.
spat
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There are no requirements, you know that.
Here me out Chev just sounds mad that someone is going to try and fight to get the may issue garbage thrown out and then Chev won't get to brag about his unrestricted license that he got like 3 years ago any more because well anyone could get it
So nyc gives out CC permits like candy? What world are you living in? I’m getting concerned for your well being.
spat
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No, they give them out when they feel like it, and not when they don't.
The process is completely arbitrary, there are no clearly defined requirements.
You know this.
I’m sure a quick search will reveal outlined requirements.
spat
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You are free to try.
PS. Anything with vague definitions like "significant amounts" is not a requirement. It's BS that can be twisted to mean whatever they want.