Local group pushing for '2nd amendment sanctuaries
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Pipe dream, but it's really not that difficult. County becomes 2a sanctuary, do not enforce any gun laws on the law abiding citizen, if caught commiting a crime with a gun feel free to fully prosecute to the full extent of NY's bullshit written laws.
Deplorable Me
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Albany will think the peasants are upset and send the kings army to squash the rebellion.
The king is a fink.
The king is a fink.
This entire sanctuary thing is a joke.
Police will continue to arrest.
The DA's will still prosecute crimes.
Local, County and State politicians will pass more laws, and..
FFL's will continue to follow all laws.
Police will continue to arrest.
The DA's will still prosecute crimes.
Local, County and State politicians will pass more laws, and..
FFL's will continue to follow all laws.
libertysnake
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The SAFE act is unconstitutional on the grounds that the constitution explicitly does not have restrictions on the right to bear arms. That's what the wording says directly. The only question is enforcement; that's the reason we comply, because of the consequences.
It's really up to officers in many branches to decide whether they honestly believe the same is true, and whether they want to continue down this past of enforcement and complicity.
If LEO honestly believes that, as written, the SAFE act is valid, then by all means they should enforce what they feel is valid. If they do not, then they have a duty to speak out against it at a minimum -- to stay silent, especially in a position of power, is immoral at best.
In the end, we should hold a convention and add clarity to the amendment and make it clear what is and is not legal.
It's really up to officers in many branches to decide whether they honestly believe the same is true, and whether they want to continue down this past of enforcement and complicity.
If LEO honestly believes that, as written, the SAFE act is valid, then by all means they should enforce what they feel is valid. If they do not, then they have a duty to speak out against it at a minimum -- to stay silent, especially in a position of power, is immoral at best.
In the end, we should hold a convention and add clarity to the amendment and make it clear what is and is not legal.
Jaywmustang
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I went to the Oswego county 2nd amendment sanctuary meeting a week or so ago. Still in the planning stage. Local representatives and sheriff gave support, Claudia Tenney was there and gave a speech.......I may be wrong but I do not think Albany will listen. Albany does not need us
Robin
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Fuck Albany.
Robin
Robin
Deplorable Me
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Why 2A santuaries? Can't we just get day care for politicians?
AND, yet there is still the SAFEact!!
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! There is no further interpretation needed, than the exact wording of AMENDMENT II.
Here it is, seems VERY clear to me:
AMENDMENT II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
1075tech
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If the politicians had any balls, there wouldn't be a need for 2A sanctuaries.
Robin
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These counties should include something like, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. that ought to work.
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ProgSpear
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Posted elsewhere. One idea on how to make it work for us.
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Smoke Jensen
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All the way to the Atlantic.
spat
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The 2A doesn't need clarity, it needs teeth.
It should include the provision that anyone attempting to violate it is committing a crime that deadly force is authorized to prevent. That includes legislators, judges, and members of the executive branch.
Absolutely!!
MothMan
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Sanctuary 2A counties/locales will have their state funding cut.
Wow that's crazy! If only NYC wasn't part of NY
Mr. terzmo
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so the heat is on Sherriff's to ignore job directives but not the State Police ? It needs to go away (crap act) all together. IF.......WE...did more than bitch about it...it could be done away with. But talk and typing are easier
But that part is already there:
A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state...
What these politicians/legislators/judges are doing is attempting to remove the "free state".
this gives The People all the justification they need to enact the obvious penalties contained in "the right to keep and bear arms."
ProgSpear
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And the state will have a blizzard of lawsuits to contend with. Cuomo thinks he can sue the Feds because they're threatening to withhold funds because of "Sanctuary Cities" on immigration, yet I cannot find any reference in the constitution regarding immigration being a right. The 2A however explicitly states an existing right, which Cuomo is doing everything in his power to illegally restrict, and he thinks we have no right to object? Really? Honestly, the cognitive dissonance exhibited by the progressive mind is truly baffling to me.
PartyHardyMarty
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I'd argue the teeth are there, but it's the militia that is the teeth. Sadly we haven't barred them in a long time. But we can..
spat
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It needs something intermediate between "nothing" and full blown civil war.
I would argue something where "the militia" can act and then people have a defense in court.
Celt
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Aka the State troopers
PartyHardyMarty
22lr
The militia is in the middle. It's there to protect the community, its peace and justice. It's the local people taking responsibility for their community, instead of farming it out to a bunch of beauracracy beholden to henchmen at the Capitol.
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What do you mean by your second sentence?
spat
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I mean a legal mechanism where the militia could act to remove a tyrannical administration without triggering a full scale war.The militia is in the middle. It's there to protect the community, its peace and justice. It's the local people taking responsibility for their community, instead of farming it out to a bunch of beauracracy beholden to henchmen at the Capitol.
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What do you mean by your second sentence?
Some sort of collective self defense justification.
Should let the Brits come in and raze it to the ground.
Saltwater60
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It means nothing legally. You are correct. It’s symbolic at best.