looking for some thoughts on scopes I'm thinking of buying

Saltwater60 · Feb 14, 2023

I really like the luepold scope that I have. I have it on a .22lr and my kids shoot 1” steel, but I shoot the branches on the trees around the target that are 1/4” wide. Great scope, clear glass and we all love it.

Hochulsucks1234 · Feb 14, 2023

I have a Leupold VX Freedom and it is an awesome scope. I run mostly Vortex scopes and highly reccommend them, but since you arent considering them, I would choose the Leupold.

Saltwater60 · Feb 14, 2023

Hochulsucks1234 said:
I have a Leupold VX Freedom and it is an awesome scope. I run mostly Vortex scopes and highly reccommend them, but since you arent considering them, I would choose the Leupold.

I much prefer my similarly priced luepold over the vortex scope I have. The luepold is much clearer and better glass. I also think it’s built better.

FRANKIE · Feb 14, 2023

I think the Freedom would be perfect for that rifle. It’s lite weight and it’s a leupold. Has the gold band on it, it’s forever. I run a Mark AR Fire-dot - G TMR. Best scope I ever looked through.

FRANKIE · Feb 15, 2023

Oh don’t forget the Alimina flip back lens covers.
I love these maybe more that the scope

FP1201 · Feb 15, 2023

Buy as high a level of Leupold that you can afford and never look back...the difference can be seen in that half hour before and after sunset; THAT'S where the higher cost comes into focus.

FRANKIE · Feb 15, 2023

FP1201 said:
Buy as high a level of Leupold that you can afford and never look back...the difference can be seen in that half hour before and after sunset; THAT'S where the higher cost comes into focus.

True
Leupold promises 20 minutes more hunting time

meketrefe · Feb 15, 2023

hi.
you mentioned 3 that are going to be complete different features and experience.
what is the scope for? whst type of shooting, competition ans or min and max distances on average.
Do you need fast correction and a stadia with measures consistent to the click unit of measure?
Do you need to be able to read a newspaper at 100 or 200 yards like with BR score target scope?
some ot these answers will help making a better decision
thanks

meketrefe · Feb 15, 2023

oc shooter said:
all good suggestions mostly long range 22lr out tp 200-250 yards

is that to simulate LR tactical shooting and practice at various alternating targets or just have plenty of magnifocation at a fixed distance that is plenty to see scores like score BR shooting?
I am guessing precision of adjustment or complex stadia is less critical since 22lr is quite erratic at those distances.
But I ask in case those features are also important for this use and/or future rifles.
In the 22lr bolt action I use mid budget scope with the same features and units I have in the expensive high end scopes that is:
Wide mag range either 2 to 10, 3-15 or 4-20 so I have a practical low end magnifocation with a wide fov.
adjustable side parallax.
zero stop
Mil -mil adjustment and stadia, ideally army mil dot or something similar not too busy.
Fine stadia lines with accurate ranging marks or dots.
30 mm tube minimum
japanese, us or german glass and make sure there is little or no optical aberration at any mag setting
decent tracking with less than a .5% error in a 10 mil square.
positive click I can hear and easy to read marks by just raising my eyes.
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The reason for me is because I shoot tactically at alternating distances and angles from different positions so I want to be able to do certain adjustments by simple mental calculation or holding in the stadia thus why mil mil consistent units and ffp.
I also like the 3-15 and 4-20 magnification so I can zoom in and study targets and see impacts wo the need of side optics / spotting scope or help all the time.
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I have a leopold taeget scope that is a 30 range duplex and one can read a newspaper at 200 yards but is good only for that, target score shooting at high mag settings
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That is why I ask these questions. I hope it helps.
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your thoughts?

Saltwater60 · Feb 16, 2023

oc shooter said:
all good suggestions mostly long range 22lr out tp 200-250 yards

.22lr out to 200-250 yards? Wow and why? Looking at this chart it’s a 45-60” drop at that yardage. You could probably stand down range and have the bullets drop into a burlap sack to catch and reuse the projectiles. Just kidding there I’m curious as to why you want to do this.

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Saltwater60 · Feb 16, 2023

oc shooter said:
mainly because I like to. shooting 22lr at long range is a challenge it will definitely teach you how to dope the wind who cares about drop it's way too over rated it's a known number so you hold for it people seem to dwell on drop and buy cartridges that don't drop as much as others to me drop is simple I look at the charts if it says hold over what ever that's what I do and it pretty much works out now figuring wind that's another story . try shooting 22lr at 200 yards in a quartering 15 mile wind. I get bored shooting center firer at 250 yards or so so 22lr is the challenge it also helps my long range shooting over all

Fair enough and if you enjoy it keep it up.

nortatoga · Feb 19, 2023

Saltwater60 said:
.22lr out to 200-250 yards? Wow and why? Looking at this chart it’s a 45-60” drop at that yardage. You could probably stand down range and have the bullets drop into a burlap sack to catch and reuse the projectiles. Just kidding there I’m curious as to why you want to do this.

Bullet Trajectory Chart – .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .22 LR & .22 WMR Comparison | M*CARBO

Compare bullet trajectory and drop charts for .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .22 LR, and .22 WMR. See how each rimfire caliber performs in bullet drop at various distances. Perfect reference for hunters, plinkers, and precision shooters.

www.mcarbo.com

You should check-out some of the NRL22 long-range shooting videos on You-Tube. This is gaining in popularity. My Club started last year with some practice matches out to 100 yards, we need some taller target stands to be over the 100 yard berm out to our max of 200 yards. The challenge is what make it fun!!

nortatoga · Feb 19, 2023

oc shooter said:
with cost of ammo and all 22lr has gotten my attention more and more I now have 2 a CZ 455 and the new Tikka there a hoot

Exactly! I use a pair of custom Ruger 77/22's with Shilen barrels along with two tricked out 10/22's if I want. I also have been shooting my 22 pistols in steel challenge matchs at the Club.

Saltwater60 · Feb 21, 2023

The cost will only rise soon with NYSP doing the ammo background checks.

nortatoga · Feb 21, 2023

Saltwater60 said:
The cost will only rise soon with NYSP doing the ammo background checks.

I for one have already taken care of that problem.

speerchucker · Feb 21, 2023

Saltwater60 said:
.22lr out to 200-250 yards? Wow and why? Looking at this chart it’s a 45-60” drop at that yardage. You could probably stand down range and have the bullets drop into a burlap sack to catch and reuse the projectiles. Just kidding there I’m curious as to why you want to do this.

Bullet Trajectory Chart – .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .22 LR & .22 WMR Comparison | M*CARBO

Compare bullet trajectory and drop charts for .17 HMR, .17 HM2, .22 LR, and .22 WMR. See how each rimfire caliber performs in bullet drop at various distances. Perfect reference for hunters, plinkers, and precision shooters.

www.mcarbo.com

Probably because it's same reason as me I shoot mine out the 210 heres a couple of pics .

it's the same as shooting my 223 with 75 grain eld-m out to 840y 24.7 Moa elevation very useful and cheap training tool I actually go through about 2 bricks of Norma tac 22 a month doing just this don't underestimate the power I have flattened more than one Fox at 200 yards with a 22 ya just got to put it in the right spot .
You should try it best tool I ever used to learn how to read wind

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