Man Who Fired First Shots Behind Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Has Been Charged

[livingston]

Man Who Fired First Shots Behind Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Has Been Charged
The man who fired the first shots from behind Kyle Rittenhouse during the fatal incident in Kenosha has been charged.
Joshua Ziminski, 35, has been charged with disorderly conduct and use of a dangerous weapon for firing his weapon during the incident on August 25.

In another video, the defendant and Kelly are seen walking near a fire in the area of the Ultimate Gas Station lot. In later video, the defendant’s right arm is seen on the video, which is taken near 63rd Street and Sheridan Road, in the City and County of Kenosha, State of Wisconsin. Detective Howard reports the defendant’s arm pointing the gun upward towards the sky,” the document explains. “Detective Howard observed a muzzle flash emit from the handgun, and heard a gunshot at the same time. In another video, the defendant is clearly seen at that same location. The defendant is seen walking in the same area, holding his right arm upwards, and firing off one shot from his handgun. The defendant and his wife are then seen leaving the area. Several other people are in the nearby vicinity when the defendant fires the handgun.”



The police go on to report that when speaking to Ziminski, and his wife who was present at the time, both admitted that he had fired off a “warning shot” into the air.

This strengthens the case that Rittenhouse had reason to fear for his life and was acting in self defense when he shot and killed two rioters.

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The man who fired the first shots from behind Kyle Rittenhouse during the fatal incident in Kenosha has been charged.

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[Acer-m14]

The police go on to report that when speaking to Ziminski, and his wife who was present at the time, both admitted that he had fired off a “warning shot” into the air.

not good not good shooting in the air for warning shot ..

charged with disorderly conduct and use of a dangerous weapon for firing his weapon during the incident

only 2 charges WTH ..

 

[spat]

The police go on to report that when speaking to Ziminski, and his wife who was present at the time, both admitted that he had fired off a “warning shot” into the air.

not good not good shooting in the air for warning shot ..

charged with disorderly conduct and use of a dangerous weapon for firing his weapon during the incident

only 2 charges WTH ..

Warning shots are BS obviously.

But if you *do* have some legitimate reason to use a firearm as a signaling device instead of a weapon, fire into the ground not the air.

You are responsible for knowing where that bullet will end up. You have no idea in the air. You know *exactly* where if you use the ground.

 

[Shadow2]

Warning shots are BS obviously.

But if you *do* have some legitimate reason to use a firearm as a signaling device instead of a weapon, fire into the ground not the air.

You are responsible for knowing where that bullet will end up. You have no idea in the air. You know *exactly* where if you use the ground.

OK not nit picking but more of a public service announcement. The safest direction to fire a gun is ever changing. Generally shooting down into dirt is safe. A hard surface like concrete or black top is considered a bad idea because of potential for ricochet. A strait into the air shot has its risks but It would take a very large bullet to cause death once the bullet lost all its velocity. Once it hit terminal velocity it would depend on a decent amount of factors to be lethal. I'm sure the math has been done on it by someone. Confident a standard hand gun caliber isn't going to kill anyone on its return to earth,

 

[Apeman]

Still waiting for that piece of shit convicted felon that got shot in the arm to be charged for having a gun

 

[Jchrisls]

"This strengthens the case that Rittenhouse had reason to fear for his life and was acting in self defense when he shot and killed two rioters."

Could this itself be any less "news" or inversely any more "opinion "?

The fact that Kyle potentially heard a shot in his vicinity would be reason enough to believe he was in fear for his life. I know they dropped the charges in Illinois, but what's going on in Michigan?

 

[Jchrisls]

"This strengthens the case that Rittenhouse had reason to fear for his life and was acting in self defense when he shot and killed two rioters."

Could this itself be any less "news" or inversely any more "opinion "?

The fact that Kyle potentially heard a shot in his vicinity would be reason enough to believe he was in fear for his life. I know they dropped the charges in Illinois, but what's going on in Michigan?

Oops. Misread. Its early here.......should wake up before I blather on.


Carry on. Responsibility taken for error.

 

[holdover]

"This strengthens the case that Rittenhouse had reason to fear for his life and was acting in self defense when he shot and killed two rioters."

Could this itself be any less "news" or inversely any more "opinion "?

The fact that Kyle potentially heard a shot in his vicinity would be reason enough to believe he was in fear for his life. I know they dropped the charges in Illinois, but what's going on in Michigan?

they dropped the gun charge in Ill , which will strengthen his self defense case in that he didnt take a weapon with him or plan to shoot anyone.

I cant see him of ever being convicted on any count. the DA in Wisconsin must be pulling his hair out trying to get a plea deal

 

[dwa12479]

OK not nit picking but more of a public service announcement. The safest direction to fire a gun is ever changing. Generally shooting down into dirt is safe. A hard surface like concrete or black top is considered a bad idea because of potential for ricochet. A strait into the air shot has its risks but It would take a very large bullet to cause death once the bullet lost all its velocity. Once it hit terminal velocity it would depend on a decent amount of factors to be lethal. I'm sure the math has been done on it by someone. Confident a standard hand gun caliber isn't going to kill anyone on its return to earth,

This exactly^^^^

Its not nit-picking, its exactly right. Firing a shot into the ground has a great chance of ricocheting up and into an unintended target. Even if you're on the grass. 4" of soil over bedrock can allow a ricochet up up and away.

 

[Robin]

Anyone that has done night fire with tracers knows that once the bullet hits something no one knows where it will go. A better alternative is to holler HEY.
Robin

 

[spat]

OK not nit picking but more of a public service announcement. The safest direction to fire a gun is ever changing. Generally shooting down into dirt is safe. A hard surface like concrete or black top is considered a bad idea because of potential for ricochet. A strait into the air shot has its risks but It would take a very large bullet to cause death once the bullet lost all its velocity. Once it hit terminal velocity it would depend on a decent amount of factors to be lethal. I'm sure the math has been done on it by someone. Confident a standard hand gun caliber isn't going to kill anyone on its return to earth,

Ricochet risk is strongly dependent on angle of incidence.

Concrete could be an issue. Asphalt probably not if the angle is very steep.

Not *too* many places where it’s all concrete and you can't just choose another point. Maybe inside a big box store ?

I can't imagine the scenario someplace like that where you would want to discharge your firearm anywhere other than an attacker, but assuming you found one, I would think you could choose a line of fire that would put any ricochet into the bottom shelf of whatever product happened to be nearby.

Penetration is going to be non-existant after a round has bounced off concrete at 45 degrees.

 

[Robin]

5.56 will ricochet off a leaf.
Robin

 

[Darth]

OK not nit picking but more of a public service announcement. The safest direction to fire a gun is ever changing. Generally shooting down into dirt is safe. A hard surface like concrete or black top is considered a bad idea because of potential for ricochet. A strait into the air shot has its risks but It would take a very large bullet to cause death once the bullet lost all its velocity. Once it hit terminal velocity it would depend on a decent amount of factors to be lethal. I'm sure the math has been done on it by someone. Confident a standard hand gun caliber isn't going to kill anyone on its return to earth,

*if it freefalls

If it does not (i.e. not fired straight up, but at any sort of angle, which is most likely), it will come down at the same velocity it went up at.

 

[Edwardteach72]

*if it freefalls

If it does not (i.e. not fired straight up, but at any sort of angle, which is most likely), it will come down at the same velocity it went up at.

Ummm not sure if that's true.. you would have to figure out terminal velocity.. which I doubt would be the same as muzzle velocity

 

[Edwardteach72]

The safest direction would be to shoot at the nearest frying pan

 

[Edwardteach72]

It looks like with my best guess a 147g 9mm bullet has a terminal velocity of like 3 feet per second

 

[Celt]

Wisconsin Prosecutors Drop Charges Against First Shooter in Order to Prosecute Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth About Guns

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Prosecutors dropped charges against the guy who fired forst shot. Freaking BS!

 

[spat]

*if it freefalls

If it does not (i.e. not fired straight up, but at any sort of angle, which is most likely), it will come down at the same velocity it went up at.

Well, even fired at a shallow angle it's not going muzzle velocity 1000 yards later.

But, while a round fired at 45 degrees isn’t going to come down fast enough that we would be happy with it as a defensive round, the criteria for it being "dangerous" is much much lower.

People do get killed this way, so just don’t do it.

I still stand by my earlier statement that the ground is safer. Unless you *know* where the bullet will end up, then you don’t know if it's safe.

I will clarify that last sentence though, you don’t have to be specific, we frequently target shoot where the "know where it will end up" could cover a couple acres of a hay field. But we know it will end up in *that* field.

 

[spat]

Since we are moving to AZ in a few months I have been familiarizing myself with the ins and outs of their gun laws.

The following was passed as a direct response to an incident that directly relates to this discussion.

The short version is that a kid got killed by a guy shooting in the air in '99. Parents found out it was at most a misdemeanor even though she died and raised hell. It is now a felony there to discharge a firearm into the air.

Shannon's law (Arizona) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[FrankenCub]

Anyone that has done night fire with tracers knows that once the bullet hits something no one knows where it will go. A better alternative is to holler HEY.
Robin

5.56 will ricochet off a leaf.
Robin

I use to shoot a lot of tracers out of my 6.5 Swede. Even after 500yds they do some crazy shit.
Thanks for the reminder, need to find some 5.56 tracers for recorded NV coyote hunts

 

[Acer-m14]

not the vid i was really looking for but similar .,. hard surfaces are not the best to use for warning shots . but it depends on the angle of the shot ..

 

[Acer-m14]

Wisconsin Prosecutors Drop Charges Against First Shooter in Order to Prosecute Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ On October 13, 2020, the Gateway Pundit broke the story that the person who fired the first shot the night Kyle Rittenhouse was forced to defend his life, Joshua Ziminski, was arrested and charged. The man who fired the first shots from behind Kyle Rittenhouse...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Prosecutors dropped charges against the guy who fired forst shot. Freaking BS!

someone better check the Prosecutors financials for a big donation

 

[Apeman]

Wisconsin Prosecutors Drop Charges Against First Shooter in Order to Prosecute Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ On October 13, 2020, the Gateway Pundit broke the story that the person who fired the first shot the night Kyle Rittenhouse was forced to defend his life, Joshua Ziminski, was arrested and charged. The man who fired the first shots from behind Kyle Rittenhouse...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Prosecutors dropped charges against the guy who fired forst shot. Freaking BS!

It's bullshit they dropped the charges but that shouldn't matter for Kyle's defense. He was being chased by a group of people and someone fired a shot while he was running away. Even if he had no idea the shot was into the air he feared for his life AND a witness says the child molester tried to take his gun.