Mandated covid19 vaccines for all NYC employees

[Saltwater60]

Bastard. I knew he would do it but I was hoping to have more time. I’ll take the testing option and make them pay me to do the testing then. I just don’t care.

Gov. Cuomo: New York will mandate COVID vaccines for state employees, health care workers

Subsequent CDC guidance said fully vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks at summer camps or at schools, either.

www.google.com

 

[Blimey]

State hospital mandate vs the optional testing for others...private hospitals are likely to follow suit. A lot of healthcare workers have not been vaccinated.

 

[fresch]

But, someone said he didn't say that.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Bastard. I knew he would do it but I was hoping to have more time. I’ll take the testing option and make them pay me to do the testing then. I just don’t care.

Gov. Cuomo: New York will mandate COVID vaccines for state employees, health care workers

Subsequent CDC guidance said fully vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks at summer camps or at schools, either.

www.google.com

What happens when that option is no longer an option (which you know it will)?

 

[Truebeliever]

Wait so are you saying it is safe because you may not get an immediate reaction? You equate them not being dangerous if it causes issues long term? Trying to understand your logic here.

As I explained, people are not dying numbers higher than other vaccines. Some people believe large number people are dying from the shot and there is huge coverup. That isn’t true.
Do they have a reason to be concerned about long term effects? The answer is yes but I’m not having more kids therefore for me the reward outweighs the risk . I am also less concerned for the young male members of my family taking it. I am concerned for the women in my family who might have kids in the future.

So I understand why someone should be concerned and decide not to get it. But that decision should be made with the correct info.

 

[Truebeliever]

How many doctors put poison in their kids for "health" without even looking at other ways to achieve health and wellness? Again, just because they don't see the repercussions of their choices right away doesn't make it any more appropriate or convincing saying, "Well, doctors give this to their kids." I've done the complete opposite with my 21 and 24 year olds their entire existence. My G-d, how have they made it this far?

Again, the poster thought a large number of people were getting the shot and dropping dead. And that they were covering it up.
It was like that and people were dropping dead like that, those same doctors and nurses wouldn’t give their kids the shot.

 

[Dr. Evil]

As I explained, people are not dying numbers higher than other vaccines. Some people believe large number people are dying from the shot and there is huge coverup. That isn’t true.
Do they have a reason to be concerned about long term effects? The answer is yes but I’m not having more kids therefore for me the reward outweighs the risk . I am also less concerned for the young male members of my family taking it. I am concerned for the women in my family who might have kids in the future.

So I understand why someone should be concerned and decide not to get it. But that decision should be made with the correct info.

The latest Human Health Service’s reporting system data shows that 470,898 people have reported injuries and 5,467 deaths have been reported, even though it is estimated that only between 1 and 10 percent of all vaccine injuries are ever reported. Recent data also shows many people under 30 are suffering from heart inflammation, blood clots, and low platelets post COVID-19 injections. Obviously doctors want the best for their kids. That being said it just goes to show how knee deep doctors are in regarding their narrow mindset and their inability to question what is going on around them at the present time. In 1976 25-50 people died as a result of rolling out the inoculation program during the swine flu. They stopped the program. As of May 25, vaccine deaths in the USA have increased 27 fold over the average seen in the previous decade. Obviously not every death is directly correlated but their answer is the deaths have not been definitively linked. Number one, that is always their answer. Number two, if you believe they would ever admit they are linked you haven't been paying attention for quite some time how the system works. Yes, the decision should be made with the correct information. How anyone can look back on the last couple of years and believe that what they are being told by doctors is correct is breathtaking. I have seen story after story, video after video and even have had personal experience of people dying that you would not have expected to right around the time of either their first jab or second only to see family members stick their head in the sand and do anything but even think it had anything to do with the jabs. IMHO, people are that far gone and brainwashed. Again, 3rd leading cause of death in the US well before the scamdemic.

 

[Saltwater60]

What happens when that option is no longer an option (which you know it will)?

One day at a time. If I can buy some time I’ll be happy. I’m sure at some point I’ll have to get it but hoping for 6-12 months.
There’s a lawsuit right now so we will see what happens there. Also after time passes they may quietly drop it if this dies down. Many of his supporters are calling for this now and his election is coming up.

 

[Truebeliever]

The latest Human Health Service’s reporting system data shows that 470,898 people have reported injuries and 5,467 deaths have been reported, even though it is estimated that only between 1 and 10 percent of all vaccine injuries are ever reported. Recent data also shows many people under 30 are suffering from heart inflammation, blood clots, and low platelets post COVID-19 injections. Obviously doctors want the best for their kids. That being said it just goes to show how knee deep doctors are in regarding their narrow mindset and their inability to question what is going on around them at the present time. In 1976 25-50 people died as a result of rolling out the inoculation program during the swine flu. They stopped the program. As of May 25, vaccine deaths in the USA have increased 27 fold over the average seen in the previous decade. Obviously not every death is directly correlated but their answer is the deaths have not been definitively linked. Number one, that is always their answer. Number two, if you believe they would ever admit they are linked you haven't been paying attention for quite some time how the system works. Yes, the decision should be made with the correct information. How anyone can look back on the last couple of years and believe that what they are being told by doctors is correct is breathtaking. I have seen story after story, video after video and even have had personal experience of people dying that you would not have expected to right around the time of either their first jab or second only to see family members stick their head in the sand and do anything but even think it had anything to do with the jabs. IMHO, people are that far gone and brainwashed. Again, 3rd leading cause of death in the US well before the scamdemic.

Yes and what did they die of. Covid? Or the vaccine? Or another medical condition. What was the causation?
I am not going on “ family members” but doctors and nurses. Some who are against taking the vaccine.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Yes and what did they die of. Covid? Or the vaccine? Or another medical condition. What was the causation?
I am not going on “ family members” but doctors and nurses. Some who are against taking the vaccine.

I'm not saying if it was from this or from that. I am just making the statement that percentage wise, people taking the jab now compared to other vaccines in the past that the numbers are much much higher, correlation or not. We are comparing apples to apples. Just the shear percentage. Don't know how much more clear I can make this. If you can still digest this and be ok with it than I don't know what to say. I am also going on doctors. I mentioned before on here that my BIL runs a very large hospital in NYC. During the height last winter when hospitals were supposed to be crushed with "covid cases" he told me he believed they had 5 in his hospital. Why do more doctors not speak up and aren't concerned about the current jab situation? Beats the shit out of me.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Did he grant himself new emergency powers through covid 2.0, or does this fall under the gun violence emergency powers?

 

[spat]

A lot of healthcare workers have not been vaccinated.

Kinda blows a hole in the whole "all the experts agree" narrative.

 

[kev74]

I am a county employee. I can't wait to see what kind of bullshit I'm going to have to deal with on Monday after taking a long vacation.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Vax cards would be easy enough to forge. Probably easier than voter ID. Let operation chaos begin. I'm sensing the rumblings of mass non compliance.

 

[spat]

If you go there often enough, you make friends. I know which nurse is sleeping with , who is having money issues, etc. And which patients coded that day and why.

Just think about it, if people were dying from the vaccine in the numbers you claim, the doctors and nurses sure as hell wouldn’t be injecting their own children with it.

Didn't someone in another thread post about how a lot of medical professionals are not getting vaxxed and TPTB are saying this is a huge problem ?

Doesn't that sound *exactly* like "the doctors and nurses sure as hell....."

 

[spat]

Vax cards would be easy enough to forge. Probably easier than voter ID. Let operation chaos begin. I'm sensing the rumblings of mass non compliance.

It will not be a card.

It will be looking you up in a state database.


More like hacking an ATM than an underage purchase of alcohol.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

One day at a time. If I can buy some time I’ll be happy. I’m sure at some point I’ll have to get it but hoping for 6-12 months.
There’s a lawsuit right now so we will see what happens there. Also after time passes they may quietly drop it if this dies down. Many of his supporters are calling for this now and his election is coming up.

You know what I'm asking.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I hope NYS gets sued and loses. These mandates cannot stand. The "Covid threat" is never going away, just like "terrorism". They will use it as an excuse to force you to do what they want and to the detriment of your health. Now, instead of running from gun control, we'll be running from vaccine mandates.

 

[Saltwater60]

Did he grant himself new emergency powers through covid 2.0, or does this fall under the gun violence emergency powers?

His asshole card didn’t run out yet

 

[Saltwater60]

It will not be a card.

It will be looking you up in a state database.


More like hacking an ATM than an underage purchase of alcohol.

And a forged card will I’m sure be a firable offense.

 

[Saltwater60]

I hope NYS gets sued and loses. These mandates cannot stand. The "Covid threat" is never going away, just like "terrorism". They will use it as an excuse to force you to do what they want and to the detriment of your health. Now, instead of running from gun control, we'll be running from vaccine mandates.

They will get sued but they won’t lose. I fully expect them to be able to mandate vaccines. Maybe not while it’s conditionally approved for emergency use only.

 

[Saltwater60]

The best part is we all heard about it at the same time and same way you all did because Cuomo had to be the hero.

 

[spat]

And a forged card will I’m sure be a firable offense.

Prosecutable.

You'll spend the next year in jail next to the guy charged with trespassing last January "waiting for your trial".


Welcome to the gulag comrade

 

[Robin]

You can still vote without an ID, not that it means anything. Probably if you needed an ID to vote, you wouldn't need all the other ID's.
Robin

 

[ArmedCorgi]

They will get sued but they won’t lose. I fully expect them to be able to mandate vaccines. Maybe not while it’s conditionally approved for emergency use only.

If you cannot mandate child birth, you can't mandate vaccines.

 

[1075tech]

It will not be a card.

It will be looking you up in a state database.


More like hacking an ATM than an underage purchase of alcohol.

It's possible - which is why they'll eventually have to go to the next step which will be some type of scannable implant or biometric identifier

 

[Truebeliever]

I'm not saying if it was from this or from that. I am just making the statement that percentage wise, people taking the jab now compared to other vaccines in the past that the numbers are much much higher, correlation or not. We are comparing apples to apples. Just the shear percentage. Don't know how much more clear I can make this. If you can still digest this and be ok with it than I don't know what to say. I am also going on doctors. I mentioned before on here that my BIL runs a very large hospital in NYC. During the height last winter when hospitals were supposed to be crushed with "covid cases" he told me he believed they had 5 in his hospital. Why do more doctors not speak up and aren't concerned about the current jab situation? Beats the shit out of me.

The Covid cases and flooded hospitals depends on the hospital. It was so mismanaged that the floating hospital Trump sent had about that number. Other hospitals were flooded. And thousands died because of Cuomo’s mismanagement. The number of Covid deaths was high in NYC.
Go look at secondary sources. Go google how many NYC employees died from Covid.

Coronavirus News: 30 teachers among 74 DOE employees to die of COVID-19

The New York City Department of Education said it has now lost 74 employees to COVID-19 -- including teachers, staffers in food services, school aides and a computer technology specialist.

abc7ny.com

Or cop’s who died of covid

COVID-19: Law enforcement deaths

Tracking the coronavirus-related deaths of U.S. police officers and other LE personnel

www.police1.com

Or healthcare workers who died from it

Infographic: Where U.S. Healthcare Workers Have Died From Covid-19

This chart shows U.S. healthcare worker deaths from Covid-19 by state up to April 07, 2021.

www.statista.com

We can just look at Cuomo and the nursing home. Just the rate of deaths in the nursing homes.

And these numbers are deaths.Not the people who survived due to respirators, or other major medical interventions.

Your brother in law ‘s hospital might have been smart enough not to treat Covid patients if they didn’t have to. ( Since I don’t know the type of hospital- speciality hospitals did turn away Covid patients if they knew they had Covid prior to admittance .
I too have family and friends in healthcare , some at the highest corporate levels. Covid was a very real issue. And they pulled strings to get Covid vaccines for themselves and their families like put their family on the payroll to be eligible when the shot was limited to healthcare employees only. Does that give a clue to how bad it was. Not hype .

 

[Saltwater60]

Prosecutable.

You'll spend the next year in jail next to the guy charged with trespassing last January "waiting for your trial".


Welcome to the gulag comrade

All while the BLM rioters, drug dealers, and those responsible for murders walk free or are released.

 

[Saltwater60]

If you cannot mandate child birth, you can't mandate vaccines.

Ok. Not sure I see the connection there but I’m willing to listen?

 

[fresch]

All while the BLM rioters, drug dealers, and those responsible for murders walk free or are released.

Why bring, the clintons, hunter bidong, all the fake Trump stuff done by the democrats in.