Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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prambo said:
Also posted elsewhere...

For the Rule of Law to Reign, the Bureau Must Be Destroyed › American Greatness
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Overall I agree with him. However he basically answers his own question: Its never going to happen by means of politics.

So what is the point of the article?

Politics is what has gotten us into this mess; or at least, politics that take no consideration of the Constitution, the history (particularly the early history) of this nation, nor the People over whom they exercise authority. The author basically admits that politics, i.e., electing one party over another, is utterly useless and an exercise in futility.

Leviathan has grown big enough it can do shit right in front of our eyes; and as a citizenry we recoil in disbelief and fear while at the same time we cross our fingers and hope we can chop off the head of the Beast.

Hail Hydra!

It doesn't work that way. When politics failed completely and utterly, our Founders showed us the Way.

It is the only way now.
 
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FRB said:
Was just coming here to point out this story, long read but it explains things well! Makes my proclamation that George W Bush was the turning point of the ruin of America via the Patriot Act.

Interesting Observations From the article:
"Team Obama carried out a political operation using the intelligence community and the checks-and-balances in the system were intentionally usurped. This is an indisputable fact. Worse still, the entire legislative branch of Congress, which then specifically included the Republicans that now controlled the House and Senate, did nothing. They just ignored what was admitted. The usurpation was willfully ignored. The mechanism of the G08 was bypassed without a twitch of condemnation or investigation…. because the common enemy was Donald Trump."

"Right now. That’s where we are. Term-3 Obama is now back in the White House with Joe Biden. NOTE: Former Obama National Security aide and counsel to the President, Lisa Monaco, is in her current position as Deputy Attorney General, specifically to make sure all of these revelations do not become a legal risk to Barack Obama and the people who created them. The SSCI confirmed Monaco for this purpose because the Senate is just as much at risk. Term-1 and Term-2 Obama usurped the ‘check and balance‘ within the system and weaponized the intelligence apparatus. During Trump’s term that weaponization was covered up by a compliant congress, complicit senate intelligence committee, and not a single member of the oversight called it out. Now, Term-3 Obama steps back in to continue the cover up and continue the weaponization."


The raid of Trumps place was to hide evidence proving the above.
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Or maybe it was related to documents being taken that shouldn't have been taken.

Maybe Trump is just a criminal.

Maybe it's retaliation.

Until firm facts are out you don't know. Speculation has exactly zero value.
 
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We Don't Believe You | Jeff Deist

David French, maybe National Review’s most reliably wrong scribe, issued this gem in response to the FBI raid on Donald Trump’s residence in Florida: Imagine thinking federal police agents and lawyers will be “held accountable,” or that presidents are not above the law!
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It has now developed that the Raid at Mar-A-Largo was supported by an affidavit that positively identified both the presence of documents that were retained or taken by Trump in violation of Federal Law and where they were.

The FBI was specifically interested in Trump's "newer" safe, so presumably that's where they were told the documents were.

Except.... The safe was empty.

Trump has refused to release the copy of the warrant served on him, which is his right. But let's take a slanted-eye view of this, which upon learning that very specific information was presented to the Judge immediately came to mind.

Let's presume Trump believed he had a mole in his organization and he thought he knew who it was. And let's remember that the DOJ and FBI did screw him with Russiagate, which they knew, it was developed, was bullshit and yet used it to go after him anyway, and even worse, fed it to Congress as Articles of Impeachment. That was an active scam and nobody was prosecuted for it, while if you did the same thing as a false report to them you could and would go to prison for it.
 
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DoOver said:
Leaks to WaPo now claim "documents relating to nuclear weapons" were "sought" at Mar-a-Lago. No word on whether they were recovered. Taking this story at face value, the DOJ decided to wait a year and a half before tracking down the USA's most closely guarded nuclear secrets?
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C'mon man Those documents show evidence of me receiving 10% from Iran I mean Ukraine I mean China I mean Afghanistan I like ice cream :idk:
 
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livingston said:

The Market Ticker Error: Post Not Available

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It has now developed that the Raid at Mar-A-Largo was supported by an affidavit that positively identified both the presence of documents that were retained or taken by Trump in violation of Federal Law and where they were.

The FBI was specifically interested in Trump's "newer" safe, so presumably that's where they were told the documents were.

Except.... The safe was empty.

Trump has refused to release the copy of the warrant served on him, which is his right. But let's take a slanted-eye view of this, which upon learning that very specific information was presented to the Judge immediately came to mind.

Let's presume Trump believed he had a mole in his organization and he thought he knew who it was. And let's remember that the DOJ and FBI did screw him with Russiagate, which they knew, it was developed, was bullshit and yet used it to go after him anyway, and even worse, fed it to Congress as Articles of Impeachment. That was an active scam and nobody was prosecuted for it, while if you did the same thing as a false report to them you could and would go to prison for it.
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Why would trump refuse to release the warrant?

There is so much bullshit in this story it's impossible to know what the truth is.

This far I have read the FBI was searching for:

- classified documents unrelated to January 6th
- documents definitely related to January 6th
- classified documents relating to nuclear codes (?!)

I would think by now if the FBI found the "gotcha" materials it had on trump it would have leaked by now. So I'm hoping this is a major cluster fuck for them.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Why would trump refuse to release the warrant?

There is so much bullshit in this story it's impossible to know what the truth is.

This far I have read the FBI was searching for:

- classified documents unrelated to January 6th
- documents definitely related to January 6th
- classified documents relating to nuclear codes (?!)

I would think by now if the FBI found the "gotcha" materials it had on trump it would have leaked by now. So I'm hoping this is a major cluster fuck for them.
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Wants them to show their hand first..

www.breitbart.com

Trump Is ‘Encouraging’ DOJ to Release Search Warrant that Led to Raid

Trump is “ENCOURAGING the immediate release” of the search warrant that led to Monday’s FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
 
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