Military Police and CC

[D4v3B]

Asking for a friend but does NY state honor Military Police as law enforcement and do they automatically qualify for a concealed permit here in NY??

 

[Doc8404]

No x 2.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Only if he's LEOSA certified by his command. Most commands will not certify them.

Law lets certified troops carry concealed handguns

 

[D4v3B]

Wtf NY really does suck I can hardly believe they even get away with the gun laws they have.

 

[Saltwater60]

A friend of mine was one and he had to get a permit in nys. He’s now a CO so it doesn’t matter, but likely can’t.

Yes NYS does suck.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Wtf NY really does suck I can hardly believe they even get away with the gun laws they have.

Ummm NY isnt really alone in that.

 

[M_F]

Highly doubt they can get LEOSA certified as a junior enlisted warrior, might have better luck if they retire as military police or separate after 10 years in good standing. If they’re living in NY they would still need a NY permit to BUY a pistol.

 

[D4v3B]

Ummm NY isnt really alone in that.

Some states you don't even need a permit for concealed carry anymore.

 

[Doc8404]

Highly doubt they can get LEOSA certified as a junior enlisted warrior, might have better luck if they retire as military police or separate after 10 years in good standing. If they’re living in NY they would still need a NY permit to BUY a pistol.

They need at least ten to qualify

 

[Edwardteach72]

Some states you don't even need a permit for concealed carry anymore.

Yeah there are 9-12 (cant remember right now) constitutional carry states

 

[GOPerfect]

Yes/no. I went through this years ago. Real pain in the ass.

First off, there is no separate ID card for MP's. Most Local Commanders will not do the paperwork that is needed to allow a Military cop to carry outside of work.


The U.S. Army is now processing Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA) packets through its contract firm Defense Consulting Services, LLC. The FY13 National Defense Authorization Act expanded the definition of qualified military law enforcement officers (LEO), under the authorities of the LEOSA (Title 18, Chapter 44, Sections 926B and 926C). The definition of qualified LEOs now includes law enforcement persons with apprehension authority making Military Police (MP) and Department of Army Civilian Police LEOSA eligible. Upon approval, the law authorizes qualified LEOs, both active and retired, to carry concealed firearms in all 50 states except where prohibited by other federal or state laws. In July 2015, the Army selected a contractor to process LEOSA actions. This program is open to MOS/Branch 31A, 311A, 31B, 31D, 31E, 31K, active duty, retired (including MOS 95 series) and qualified separated personnel. A handgun qualification is not required for processing the application but is mandatory to have when carrying using the LEOSA card.

 

[D4v3B]

Yes/no. I went through this years ago. Real pain in the ass.

First off, there is no separate ID card for MP's. Most Local Commanders will not do the paperwork that is needed to allow a Military cop to carry outside of work.


The U.S. Army is now processing Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA) packets through its contract firm Defense Consulting Services, LLC. The FY13 National Defense Authorization Act expanded the definition of qualified military law enforcement officers (LEO), under the authorities of the LEOSA (Title 18, Chapter 44, Sections 926B and 926C). The definition of qualified LEOs now includes law enforcement persons with apprehension authority making Military Police (MP) and Department of Army Civilian Police LEOSA eligible. Upon approval, the law authorizes qualified LEOs, both active and retired, to carry concealed firearms in all 50 states except where prohibited by other federal or state laws. In July 2015, the Army selected a contractor to process LEOSA actions. This program is open to MOS/Branch 31A, 311A, 31B, 31D, 31E, 31K, active duty, retired (including MOS 95 series) and qualified separated personnel. A handgun qualification is not required for processing the application but is mandatory to have when carrying using the LEOSA card.

So it is no longer at the discretion of the command? What is the approval rating? Would a reservist MP vs Active have any effect of the approval?

 

[GOPerfect]

So it is no longer at the discretion of the command? What is the approval rating? Would a reservist MP vs Active have any effect of the approval?

When this all started, it was up to the local command. Things are moving along to be more streamlined and uniform across the different branches, when I was a Reservist, I was spending much time researching all of it. Once I started working in my current job, I stopped all research.

 

[Doc8404]

LEOSA

Link there leads you to

https://www.leosanavy.com/

Which says
At the request of the US Navy, DCS has temporarily disabled LEOSA.
For any questions please contact DCS, thank you!

Defense Consulting Services

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

There was a criminal case of a USCG member having a handgun. I think the court said he was law enforcement because they are part of Homeland Security.

 

[Doc8404]

Probably. USCG is much different. Did Force Protection with them after 9/11. We always have had to have one member with us since they had arrest authority.

 

[96coal449]

Wtf NY really does suck I can hardly believe they even get away with the gun laws they have.

NYS constitution: "The right to keep and bear arms CANNOT be infringed." They can call their legislation to be law all they want. I will not comply.

BTW .... nice Eaton.

 

[Doc8404]

Revival!
Interesting that LEOSA doesn’t override bullshit like state magazine size restriction.
Cross into NY with your LEOSA credential and you drop to ten rounds.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Revival!
Interesting that LEOSA doesn’t override bullshit like state magazine size restriction.
Cross into NY with your LEOSA credential and you drop to ten rounds.

I wondered about that.