Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
so, anyone want to figure out what constitutes harassment or annoying. Is filming LEO now harassment. If someone 'smart mouths' a cop, is that annoying or harassment?
this 'law" is so vague it isn't funny
Monroe County's new "Anti-Harassment" Bill
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so, anyone want to figure out what constitutes harassment or annoying. Is filming LEO now harassment. If someone 'smart mouths' a cop, is that annoying or harassment?
this 'law" is so vague it isn't funny
"I trust our law enforcement officers will do the right thing as they apply this law as they see fit,”
Sorry, I don't know then. They might be great people, but I'm going home to my family at night. Therefore, thank you for the suggestion, but I must decline on just trusting them.
"We don't make the laws, they just enforce them. Except when we decide when they apply. Then yeah, we make them."
Sorry, I don't know then. They might be great people, but I'm going home to my family at night. Therefore, thank you for the suggestion, but I must decline on just trusting them.
"We don't make the laws, they just enforce them. Except when we decide when they apply. Then yeah, we make them."
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
what if the leo who was harassing a first re-sponder or a fireman will be charged ... seen that video before ..
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
A plausible scenario...
Lets say someone happens to be standing next to a Monroe county police officer.
That someone just ate at Taco Bell... Do ya see where I'm going with this... LOL
Now that someone lets one rip and it sounds like a out of tune trombone.
That someone didn't do it on purpose, the offending fart was one of those sneaky bastards.
Ya know the ones that just kinda happen with no warning.
Under this law, would that someone be sent to jail and get a criminal record for annoying the Monroe county officer.
Bad boys, bad boys... Watcha gonna do... Watcha gonna do when they come for you... Bad boys, bad boys...
Lets say someone happens to be standing next to a Monroe county police officer.
That someone just ate at Taco Bell... Do ya see where I'm going with this... LOL
Now that someone lets one rip and it sounds like a out of tune trombone.
That someone didn't do it on purpose, the offending fart was one of those sneaky bastards.
Ya know the ones that just kinda happen with no warning.
Under this law, would that someone be sent to jail and get a criminal record for annoying the Monroe county officer.
Bad boys, bad boys... Watcha gonna do... Watcha gonna do when they come for you... Bad boys, bad boys...
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Why don't they just outlaw breathing and then promise to only use it against "bad guys".
That's where this is headed.
"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime".
If they can do that to the POTUS, what chance do any of the rest of us have ?
That's where this is headed.
"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime".
If they can do that to the POTUS, what chance do any of the rest of us have ?
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Over the years I have seen a lot of volunteer firemen that just not too right in the head ... Every fire department seems to have one or two. ... Almost social misfits never found their place in life ... One fellow I worked with had a police scanner on his hip all thee time .. and it was turned on every day ... Shudder to think he would have the power to send someone to jail for a year.... .. See if you would keep any gun after that ...
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
What could go wrong. I’ll just sign it. I don’t even know what it means but seems like it could be good. How do these people get elected??
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
I used to like Cheryl. But since she lost the election, but since she lost the election, she has gone full Cuomo. I'm all for looking out for our LE/FD/EMS folks, but this is just bullshit.
Filming is protected by the constitution and has TONS of precedent and case law.
The problem is that no court has ruled on the distance from which you can film. The law says "from a distance that doest interfere with law enforcement". Some cops think that distance is 15 feet, others think its 200 yards. MOST judges believe 15 feet is adequate and alot of cops have been reprimanded or fired for messing with filmers over 15 feet.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
She was one of the names on the bullshit greenhouse project they were going to do in monroe county. When it was obvious to me it was never going to happen I emailed her office about a status update. Never heard back.
You ignore me, you're on my shit list. Period.
Politicians always seem to need to be seen "...doing something..."...namely passing more laws, and some actually believe that this represents a hard-working representative of the people. Far from it boys and girls.
And IMHO, this is intentionally done by the statist shitweasels.
It seems that there are so many egregious, but nonetheless implemented "laws", that the only places left to exert control over the populace, using pathetic laws like this, are those directly violating the BOR/Constitution. Again, intentional.
Asset forfeiture for one.
Another little brick in the wall of a bureaucratic feudal state.
Guess it's better all us kulaks stay home most of the time, so we don't ruffle the feathers of any special snowflakes, and end up in slam. Exactly what the statists want.
We're becoming a certified banana republic.
And IMHO, this is intentionally done by the statist shitweasels.
It seems that there are so many egregious, but nonetheless implemented "laws", that the only places left to exert control over the populace, using pathetic laws like this, are those directly violating the BOR/Constitution. Again, intentional.
Asset forfeiture for one.
Another little brick in the wall of a bureaucratic feudal state.
Guess it's better all us kulaks stay home most of the time, so we don't ruffle the feathers of any special snowflakes, and end up in slam. Exactly what the statists want.
We're becoming a certified banana republic.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
Welcome to the peoples Republic of the United States.
Last week on a Thursday night, on a 17 mile stretch of Rt 390 S between Rush and Livonia I counted 5 State Trooper Cars. 3 hiding in the median, 2 on a traffic stop in the Southbound lane performing a field sobriety test.
On the border between Monroe and Livingston County were 2 Livingston County Sheriff cars in the same median covering both the North and Southbound lanes.
Now....I'm not against vehicle and traffic law enforcement nor am I against keeping the intox off the roadways but 7 cars in a 17 mile stretch from two agencies ?
No way you can convince me that NYS isn't a full blown Police State....and regardless of how "good and well intentioned" they appear to be, I don't trust them to do the right thing...ever.
They've become "Revenuers" who serve at the behest of the political class and the citizenry in their eyes are nothing more than subjects. There are of course exceptions to the rule but by and large, we mean nothing to them other than another "collar."
On the border between Monroe and Livingston County were 2 Livingston County Sheriff cars in the same median covering both the North and Southbound lanes.
Now....I'm not against vehicle and traffic law enforcement nor am I against keeping the intox off the roadways but 7 cars in a 17 mile stretch from two agencies ?
No way you can convince me that NYS isn't a full blown Police State....and regardless of how "good and well intentioned" they appear to be, I don't trust them to do the right thing...ever.
They've become "Revenuers" who serve at the behest of the political class and the citizenry in their eyes are nothing more than subjects. There are of course exceptions to the rule but by and large, we mean nothing to them other than another "collar."
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Zoo keepers. More stupid arbitrary law's, tick tock.
Robin
Robin
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Many legislators use new laws passed as a key metric, even though the bulk of laws are designed to limit one's freedom in some form or another.
jimc
.223 Rem
How odd... This is from a few weeks ago.
spectrumlocalnews.com
Protests Erupt Over Proposed Law to Protect Broome Co. First Responders
The bill has been held over until the next session.
spectrumlocalnews.com
Uzi
.308 Win
I do hope the breaking point comes soon. 
LMS
.357 mag
Agreed the law is vague and going to be problematic. But we've all seen the videos of "innocent bystanders" and "concerned relatives" up in first responders' faces while they are trying to do their jobs, which this is trying to alleviate, I'd like to hear from some of our LEOS / Firemen / EMTs on what they think of it.
Bello will probably undo it in a month anyway....
Bello will probably undo it in a month anyway....
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
actually that has been a law for yrs .. its in the section on fire works .. .. stink bombs .. aka FARTS .
releasing a obnoxious odor .. is a law .. LOL
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The purpose of all those stops have nothing to do with traffic safety, even the departments involved will admit it.
It is so they can conduct searches that would be otherwise illegal.
They are pulling over speeders and people with taillights out, but they are looking for drugs.
Should be ruled illegal but they get away with it.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Could easily segue this topic into the Mahopac string, but then, none are so blind as those who will not see.
Robin
Robin
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
That road is a drug pipeline . Catch a lot of folks I would say they had knowledge of such cars heading north or south at that period of time
spat
.700 Nitro Express
It's a major drug pipeline because it's a major pipeline.
I am sure the NYS thruway is a major drug pipeline too.
Doesn't justify warrantless searches on the flimsiest justification.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
HAHAHAHA
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Rochester Police will not enforce new first responder harassment law
The law makes it a crime if anyone annoys, alarms, or threatens the personal safety of a police officer, peace officer or first responder...
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