ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Thanks!
My Shockwave brace thread
- Thread starter Sixbennetts
- Start date
Kirk_STNY
.45 acp
It's beautiful. Keep up the good work!
2A all the way!
2A all the way!
ChuckS
.177 BB
Wow! Love the look of the wood furniture.
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Thanks Kirk , Chuck. Just trying something different. Always loved the look of old gun wood. Still got a bit more to do til it's 'done'.
I'm probably one of the few brace users who actually need a brace!
I'm probably one of the few brace users who actually need a brace!
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I like the brace better. But if you're in creative mood why not make the solid part of the brace out of of wood to be able to stain it and then add the rubber to that!
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
I'm not following you.
This is the brace. Except for the strap and an insert near the butt end, it's all rubber.
Or did you mean like this, were I replace the buffer tube with wood, and keep the rubber SB Tactical S.O.B brace?
This is the brace. Except for the strap and an insert near the butt end, it's all rubber.
Or did you mean like this, were I replace the buffer tube with wood, and keep the rubber SB Tactical S.O.B brace?
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I forgot that the whole thing is rubber. But either way I think the brace looks better if even just the tube being replaced with wood like above. The tailhook makes it look wire stockish. And I'm sure would not be as nice on your shoulder as the rubber brace. But in the end it's your gun 
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Well, I used what I had on hand. Did you see my post on page 2 about the wood dowel idea?
Good thing is that nothing is permanent. I can change it any time I want, right? Lol.
Good thing is that nothing is permanent. I can change it any time I want, right? Lol.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Ooh I'm seconding this... hahaha
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Thanks, guys. Means a lot. I did most of this one-handed.
I think I might try making this. It would balance the wood a bit, and lighten it, too. Might make it more nose heavy, but I used to like that in trap/skeet guns, especially autos. Seemed to keep the nose down better for follow ups.
We'll see!
I think I might try making this. It would balance the wood a bit, and lighten it, too. Might make it more nose heavy, but I used to like that in trap/skeet guns, especially autos. Seemed to keep the nose down better for follow ups.
We'll see!
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Small update. Been trying to find a gold trigger assembly because I think it would look really good with the brass sling stud base on the bottom of the pistol grip.
Someone made a great suggestion, that a pistol grip firearm should have a cross-bolt safety near the trigger, instead of the receiver safety on my Shockwave. So, I found a new Maverick 88 trigger assembly on ebay with a cross-bolt safety. Got it for $30, too. (Seller is a really good guy, and a fellow vet).
I also ordered a gold trigger blade from Mossberg, part # 7263PG.
Hopefully it can be installed in a Maverick 88 trigger assembly. We'll see!
Someone made a great suggestion, that a pistol grip firearm should have a cross-bolt safety near the trigger, instead of the receiver safety on my Shockwave. So, I found a new Maverick 88 trigger assembly on ebay with a cross-bolt safety. Got it for $30, too. (Seller is a really good guy, and a fellow vet).
I also ordered a gold trigger blade from Mossberg, part # 7263PG.
Hopefully it can be installed in a Maverick 88 trigger assembly. We'll see!
Ok question. (Shotties are not my forte if you will) so maverick 88s (which I know are essentially 500s) have a pistol grip with crossbolt safety that can be put onto a 500/590? If so (I'm guessing it can obviously) that would 100% make me interested in the shockwave again.
Secondly are you going to be able to keep the wood grip?
Secondly are you going to be able to keep the wood grip?
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
The tac 14 already has the cross bolt. If you don’t mind Remington...
I know the tac14 does, which is why I contemplate one of those over the shockwave, downside is 1) finding a tac14, 2) 1 less round
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
We'll see. I've been waiting for an excuse to tackle disassemble/reassemble of my trigger group, this is it!
I'll update if I get it to work.
I'll update if I get it to work.
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Yupper. I'm in love with the wood, and the way it turned out. The short LOP/soft rubber pistol brace is surprisingly comfortable on my shoulder, too, (when I CAN shoulder it, that is!)
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
That grip came out fantastic.
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Thanks, buddy. Lotta work in it. The machine work for it to fit an AR was already there, so I can't take credit for that, but I did reshape it, inlayed the sling base, and finished it to match the forend.
Working on it has been good for my bad left wing, too. Win/win.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
They are all over the place here. Can also take the stream light racker. The 20 ga will also take a brace. I think I’m getting one in 20
I only ever see the shockwaves But I also dont look that hard
In my experiences, that kind of wear is totally normal on the Mossberg's...whether its due to slight variances in tolerances or its just by design, I see plenty of wear spots on the moving parts of my 590. I've always thought this about Mossberg shotguns (at least the pump-actions): they're definitely not the most refined shotguns out there, but they work and they're affordable (relatively speaking). And quite honestly, for how much I abuse my mossberg shotguns (hunting and target shooting), I'm totally fine with that...the more expensive you go with your firearm, the less likely you are to really enjoy it out of fear of "ruining" it.
For the original topic: what is the legality of switching out the stock handle/grip and replacing it with a brace and pistol grip? I thought the OEM's were able to bypass the short-barrel regulations by going with a unique grip. Not intending to snoop or lecture on the law (which I'm not familiar with in this scenario); rather just interest in learning how much we can modify these shockwave shotguns.
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Nope, no offense taken, and I'll gladly explain, buddy.
A Shockwave is not a shotgun. Never was, never will be, UNTIL you add a shoulder stock. THEN, it becomes a shotgun, and is subject to a tax stamp and must be registered as a SBS, (short barrel shotgun).
It comes with a raptor grip, (not a stock), and I removed the raptor grip and added a BRACE, (which is not a shoulder stock).
It's never been a shotgun, and never will be. I considered buying a used Mossberg wood shoulder stock to make a custom birdshead grip, but considering that it *might be considered constructive intent by just having it in the house, I've decided to have a local woodshop help me make one from scratch in the fall.
It remains above 26" at all times, so it is not considered concealable by ATF standards. As long as you keep your length of pull under 13½", (which I'm told *can be viewed as a shoulder stock and not a brace by ATF), you should be good to go.
I have limited use of my left hand and forearm, so I shoot it with the brace a lot. I have shouldered it, and it's surprisingly comfortable with this particular brace, (soft, flexible rubber). I'd imagine it would be pretty uncomfortable with a KAK brace, or another solid brace like a Tailhook.
Never a shoulder stock = never a shotgun.
*edit-Thanks for the compliments on the wear. I was really on the fence about ripping into it with steel wool, but seeing just how delicate the finish is, it kinda broke my heart. I get a brand new gun *maybe every 5 or 6 years, seeing it wear SO much, SO fast, I was like, Eff it!
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Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Ok, so after much criticism from folks elsewhere on the web, I have installed a Maverick 88 trigger assembly with a proper cross bolt safety. The receiver safety is unreachable without braking your grip. This is much better.
First, get yourself a Maverick 88 trigger assembly. You can find them on ebay pretty easily for $30 used, or $40 new. Here's one:
for MAVERICK 88 12 GA Factory New Complete Drop in TRIGGER Assembly Ships FREE! | eBay
Next, get yourself a Mossberg 500 gold trigger, available here:
Trigger, 12, 16 & 20 Ga., Old Style, Gold (w/ Safety Connector) | Gun
You'll have to cut the tab off here:
I used this tutorial on YouTube:
Trigger group disassembly starts at 5:40.
*WARNING!*
Disassembling a Mossberg/Maverick trigger group is NOT for the faint of heart! It took me the better part of a day futzing with it to get all the parts in place. The springs are slightly different between the two, also. Make sure you use the right tutorial.
It came out well. Polished the hammer top a little where it rides along the bolt slide during cocking. Don't know if it helped, but it sure is smooth.
First, get yourself a Maverick 88 trigger assembly. You can find them on ebay pretty easily for $30 used, or $40 new. Here's one:
for MAVERICK 88 12 GA Factory New Complete Drop in TRIGGER Assembly Ships FREE! | eBay
Next, get yourself a Mossberg 500 gold trigger, available here:
Trigger, 12, 16 & 20 Ga., Old Style, Gold (w/ Safety Connector) | Gun
You'll have to cut the tab off here:
I used this tutorial on YouTube:
Trigger group disassembly starts at 5:40.
*WARNING!*
Disassembling a Mossberg/Maverick trigger group is NOT for the faint of heart! It took me the better part of a day futzing with it to get all the parts in place. The springs are slightly different between the two, also. Make sure you use the right tutorial.
It came out well. Polished the hammer top a little where it rides along the bolt slide during cocking. Don't know if it helped, but it sure is smooth.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
That looks faaaaantastic.
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
Nice look. I'm just catching up and would suggest using gold spray paint to rattle-can the trigger if that's something you are interested in
GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
You should add a push button safety also
Actually, I'd go with a full on Pablo Escobar gold plating everywhere.
Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Thanks Putt! It's been a lotta fun. I have days that I can use both hands, and days where I have to clamp everything in a vice and do it one-handed.
It's remarkably maneuverable, too. Been practicing at the sandpits shooting both one and two handed, speed loading, etc. It's a TON of fun!
And you guys are a hoot! Can't wait to take it to the range and watch the Fudds stand there and scratch their heads!
It's remarkably maneuverable, too. Been practicing at the sandpits shooting both one and two handed, speed loading, etc. It's a TON of fun!
And you guys are a hoot! Can't wait to take it to the range and watch the Fudds stand there and scratch their heads!
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Sixbennetts
.45 acp
Well, this is a disappointment. I'm in the hospital, I come out to find out the ATF has changed classifications!
A stock adapter, buffer tube, and pistol brace are no longer included in OAL measurement. All the work I did to get my pistol grip to match is null and void.
Here's the letter.
A stock adapter, buffer tube, and pistol brace are no longer included in OAL measurement. All the work I did to get my pistol grip to match is null and void.
Here's the letter.