Nancy Pelosi is working on removing Trump. The wrong way!

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Pelosi announces bill on 25th Amendment after questioning Trump's health

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday announced legislation to create a commission that would allow Congress to oust a president from office, using the 25th Amendment, a day after she accused President Trump of being "in an altered state" from his coronavirus treatment.

www.foxnews.com

 

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This is nothing short of a planned political coup.

She needs to be removed and removed now!

 

[Catskillkid]

The fact they are pushing this PRIOR to the election (which I though tall the polls said they were going to win in a landslide) shows that they are concerned about how Election Day will turn out.

 

[GOPerfect]

I did not look ahead of time, a thread was already begun, please, merge of delete. Thanks you.

Pelosi Threatens to use 25th Amendment to remove Trump

Nancy Pelosi says Democrats are looking at 25th Amendment to remove Trump

nygunforum.com

 

[BDinPutnam]

This is nothing short of a planned political coup.

She needs to be removed and removed now!

What is a "political coup?"

She is potentially using legally available to her tools and methods.

I'm dead set against it, I think its wrong and it will hopefully blow up in her face, but "coup" is not an accurate word here.

 

[GOYABEAN]

#FUCKTHATTWAT

 

[GOPerfect]

What is a "political coup?"

She is potentially using legally available to her tools and methods.

I'm dead set against it, I think its wrong and it will hopefully blow up in her face, but "coup" is not an accurate word here.

In a coup, it is the military, paramilitary, or opposing political faction that deposes the current government and assumes power; whereas, in the pronunciamiento, the military deposes the existing government and installs a/an (ostensibly) civilian government.

This is exactly what she is attempting to do, so yes, this is indeed a Political coup, or an attempt at it.

She knows that under the 25th Amendment, Section four, she does not have the power, nor does she have the ability to do remove the President. She is doing this now, three weeks from an election, for the simple task of creating as much doubt and working hard to get her sick and demented candidate elected. Coup!

 

[C3D]

Nancy is very clever. This is a ploy to distract Trump from the last month of the campaign. I hope he can keep his eye on the ball.

 

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[BDinPutnam]

In a coup, it is the military, paramilitary, or opposing political faction that deposes the current government and assumes power; whereas, in the pronunciamiento, the military deposes the existing government and installs a/an (ostensibly) civilian government.

This is exactly what she is attempting to do, so yes, this is indeed a Political coup, or an attempt at it.

She knows that under the 25th Amendment, Section four, she does not have the power, nor does she have the ability to do remove the President. She is doing this now, three weeks from an election, for the simple task of creating as much doubt and working hard to get her sick and demented candidate elected. Coup!

Still not a coup if you are using the existing legal framework to do it.

Words have meaning.

 

[GOPerfect]

Still not a coup if you are using the existing legal framework to do it.

Words have meaning.

But, she is not using these words as written. She had a press conference in regards to this. If you have the time, you may want to watch the entire thing.

You might also want to read the Amendment. What she is attempting to do is not the way the Amendment was written, nor is it in the fashion that the Founders intended.

I spent much of the morning reading and researching this subject, what she is attempting is a coup of a duly elected President.

 

[BDinPutnam]

A coup is an *extra-legal* removal from power.

Either she has the authority to use this tool or she doesn't (i agree with you that she doesnt). If she doesn't, she won't be able to do it (this way).

So again- not a "coup."

 

[spat]

What is a "political coup?"

She is potentially using legally available to her tools and methods.

I'm dead set against it, I think its wrong and it will hopefully blow up in her face, but "coup" is not an accurate word here.

Well, she is attempting to use a legitimate tool in an illegitimate way.

Just because the blunt instrument you beat someone to death with is a law book doesn’t mean it was legal.

Every coup is history claimed some legitimate legal justification.

 

[spat]

A coup is an *extra-legal* removal from power.

Either she has the authority to use this tool or she doesn't (i agree with you that she doesnt). If she doesn't, she won't be able to do it (this way).

So again- not a "coup."

So, what happens when she attempts to do so, and claims some justification why the normal checks that should prevent it are invalid ?

 

[fresch]

Of she is setting it up if Biden some how wins.

 

[MothMan]

Of she is setting it up if Biden some how wins.

This^^^^!!!!!

 

[BDinPutnam]

Well, she is attempting to use a legitimate tool in an illegitimate way.

Just because the blunt instrument you beat someone to death with is a law book doesn’t mean it was legal.

Every coup is history claimed some legitimate legal justification.

It's a silly argument and you should know better.

People toss around "coup" and "sedition" and "treason" with an obvious disregard for the meanings both literally and legally of those terms. Which is either ignorant or mendacious or both.

 

[spat]

It's a silly argument and you should know better.

People toss around "coup" and "sedition" and "treason" with an obvious disregard for the meanings both literally and legally of those terms. Which is either ignorant or mendacious or both.

It depends on what direction she takes.

As you say, the only legitimate direction this could possibly take is completely dead in the water.

So, what is her end game ?

If it's just a political stunt designed to affect the election or win her some points somewhere, then no, it's not a coup.

But if you take her at her word, and it *is* an attempt to unseat the president (who would have to have been re-elected by that time for this to make any sense), then it absolutely is a coup in the finest tradition of banana exporters everywhere.

 

[dsdmmat]

I think she is actually planning for removing Joe should he win election

 

[GOPerfect]

I think she is actually planning for removing Joe should he win election

That is a possibility!

 

[GOPerfect]

I think she is actually planning for removing Joe should he win election

 

[spat]

I think she is actually planning for removing Joe should he win election

That makes the most sense of any explanation I've seen.

But why not just get him to step down ?

He'll read anything they put on his teleprompter, so it would be a lot easier to just get him to step aside.

Maybe just an insurance policy in case Jill decides she likes the White House too much ?

 

[fresch]

Because he is old, white, male, you know white male privilege, we had a black gay president and bj didn't do well in the Democrat run up; only way the NWO can get a shot at the President position.

 

[BDinPutnam]

It depends on what direction she takes.

As you say, the only legitimate direction this could possibly take is completely dead in the water.

So, what is her end game ?

If it's just a political stunt designed to affect the election or win her some points somewhere, then no, it's not a coup.

But if you take her at her word, and it *is* an attempt to unseat the president (who would have to have been re-elected by that time for this to make any sense), then it absolutely is a coup in the finest tradition of banana exporters everywhere.

If the latter, it will fail.

So no, not a "coup" either way.

 

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If the latter, it will fail.

So no, not a "coup" either way.

A failed coup is still a coup.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

A failed coup is still a coup.

Makes me want to take a poup.

 

[repete]

I think she is actually planning for removing Joe should he win election

I think she's planning to use it either way the election goes.

 

[masterswimmer]

Just curious @BDinPutnam , would you consider the impeachment of Pres. Trump an attempted coup? I mean hell, they fabricated an accusation of collusion with Russia that stemmed from illegal and diabolical activities between a president, secretary of state, FBI, CIA, and countless other high ranking players in their attempted take over of the US Presidency.

I tend to agree that this 25th Amendment attempt is a far reaching, baseless, nonsensical 'hail Mary', last ditch effort to remove President Trump from office, and not necessarily a coup, but rather another 'lets see what sticks' attempt to get rid of the biggest threat to their decades old circle of corruption. If we were in the legal profession, labeling it a coup would most likely be laughed and scoffed at. But we're a bunch of laymen here with a very cursory understanding of the actual legalities at play. As an outsider to their real life game of Hunger Games, labeling it something that might not be totally accurate doesn't negate the gross abuse of power Pelosi and friends are engaged in.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

 

[SonOfSun]

Go away Nancy.