Need opinions for next purchase (handgun)

[RooftopKorean]

HK USP 9mm or Girsan 2311 Brat

Don't know if I want to get the Langdon Tactical USP or a 2311 Brat and do some upgrades like a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk ejector and drop-in Nighthawk trigger kit.

I know the price variance is large gap but these are the two guns I've had my eye on.

 

[kev74]

I'd go for the Girsan.

The HKs don't do much for me.

I really like the Girsan Hipower.

 

[Defilade]

This!

OA 2311™ - OA Defense

Duty Gun Reliability with Race Gun DNA | The OA Defense 2311™ represents a carefully engineered blend of performance and versatility; designed to deliver blistering speed and accuracy while standing up to the rigors of law enforcement and combat applications.

oadefense.com

 

[RooftopKorean]

I'd go for the Girsan.

The HKs don't do much for me.

I really like the Girsan Hipower.

I love HKs but the Girsan Brat looks interesting. I'm sure with the two upgrades it would be a fantastic shooter.

 

[RooftopKorean]

This!

OA 2311™ - OA Defense

Duty Gun Reliability with Race Gun DNA | The OA Defense 2311™ represents a carefully engineered blend of performance and versatility; designed to deliver blistering speed and accuracy while standing up to the rigors of law enforcement and combat applications.

oadefense.com

Not looking to drop $2400.

 

[RooftopKorean]

If I got the USP 9mm compact, it would replace my VP9 as my EDC after some sufficient range time and practice.

The Brat would be a range toy. I haven't even looked into OWB holsters for it.

 

[Defilade]

If I got the USP 9mm compact, it would replace my VP9 as my EDC after some sufficient range time and practice.

The Brat would be a range toy. I haven't even looked into OWB holsters for it.

Yes a tricked out USP is Sexy!

 

[RooftopKorean]

If I got the Langdon Tactical USP, I'd still need to purchase the LEM package, Grey ghost flat trigger, and the modified detent safety plate so I could retain the safety. The decocker would no longer function with the light LEM hybrid modification.

or I could opt to go with a standard USP 9mm compact and fore go the optic cut for now and stipple it myself.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

IDK about this. While they are both cool, my tastes are more Plebian than Patrician. Sort of like the difference between owning a basic (but comfortable) Honda instead of a top of the line Mercedes to drive to work every day. They both get you there and back home.

For me, at the moment anyway, I’ll run with an M&P Shield Plus with 15+1 rounds of 9mm. Not fancy, but reliable, reasonably priced, totally concealable, comfortable to carry and to shoot, - and I shoot it very accurately. And it carries a lifetime warranty from S&W.

I might feel differently if I had big bucks to spend freely, but I am poor (relatively anyway…)! LOL!

 

[Saltwater60]

I would 100% go with the Garrison Brat over the USP. I think the USP is rather large and I do not like the grip/grip angle on it. I have a Para Ordinance P-12 that I love and the brat is similar. I’m sure the brat is more refined and the price leaves a lot of room. I saw $720 on their website and that’s a good price IMO. I like it so much I want one now too.

 

[RooftopKorean]

The gun shop i work in has the Brat for $650.

 

[Saltwater60]

The gun shop i work in has the Brat for $650.

That settles it then and I would buy that.

 

[RooftopKorean]

I own a slew of different guns except Walther, FN, and M&P. I'm not a fan of those brands.

 

[Depick]

Well I may be a little biased. I love HKs and I have a pistol from Langdon Tactical. It is a phenomenal gun with an even better trigger. I would go with the LTT USP.

 

[Podmonkey]

I myself have a USP on the list. Girsan........eh, I don't do Turkish stuff.
However on the USP- that pistol is a large, heavy and beefy design that is total overkill for 9mm. It's wat to l big and heavy compared to mainline 9mm options for no improvement in performance or capability.
I think there is only one true choice for USP calibers- the .45 ACP. The HK can take a nonstop diet of +P ammo and can also fire .45 Super with no modification.
Shooting standard pressure .45 ammo through USP feels like shooting a .32
With .45 Supers loaded a USP would make a good woodland defense gun.

 

[Defilade]

If I got the Langdon Tactical USP, I'd still need to purchase the LEM package, Grey ghost flat trigger, and the modified detent safety plate so I could retain the safety. The decocker would no longer function with the light LEM hybrid modification.

or I could opt to go with a standard USP 9mm compact and fore go the optic cut for now and stipple it myself.

Love my LEM on my P30sk. Striker action with a hammer.

 

[Defilade]

USP will hold it's value. Girsan? What the fuck is that?

 

[Podmonkey]

USP will hold it's value. Girsan? What the fuck is that?

Name brand under which Turkish clones of various pistol designs are sold.

 

[RooftopKorean]

I myself have a USP on the list. Girsan........eh, I don't do Turkish stuff.
However on the USP- that pistol is a large, heavy and beefy design that is total overkill for 9mm. It's wat to l big and heavy compared to mainline 9mm options for no improvement in performance or capability.

I didnt think the USP 9mm compact felt too beefy. It didn't feel that much thicker than the VP9 I currently carry. The HK45C on the otherhand was beefy.

The only Turkish gun I own is the Canik SFX Rival and that thing has been a beast for me so far, almost 2000 rounds through it with no issues. As for resell value on that, I'd guess it would be low. I can't imagine Turk guns holding much value.

I'm heavily leaning toward the USP since I love HKs. The only intriguing thing for the Brat for me is that I don't own a 1911 patterned 9mm and its a poly frame.

 

[Podmonkey]

I didnt think the USP 9mm compact felt too beefy. It didn't feel that much thicker than the VP9 I currently carry. The HK45C on the otherhand was beefy.

The only Turkish gun I own is the Canik SFX Rival and that thing has been a beast for me so far, almost 2000 rounds through it with no issues. As for resell value on that, I'd guess it would be low. I can't imagine Turk guns holding much value.

I'm heavily leaning toward the USP since I love HKs. The only intriguing thing for the Brat for me is that I don't own a 1911 patterned 9mm and its a poly frame.

I'd its a shits and giggles gun, or even a serious gun for any use outside of a CCW role the full size USP in .45 has the "it" factor for me. Especially in NY with a 10 round limit. 10 rounds of .45 Super is serious firepower and a lot of spectacle creating fun on the range. On the other hand $80 magazines sucks big time. Not sure about 10 rounder availability either. Standard capacity I belive is 12.

*EDIT* Several sites are offering OEM HK USP .45 magazines in both 12 and 10 round capacities for around $45. The $30 ones are ProMags so watch out. Also there are listings for the HK45 magazines which are distinct from and not cross compatible with the USP.

 

[Podmonkey]

Also I miss our forner forum jester who pronounced "USP" as "Uhsp". He was funny. Also apparently up to no good on here hence his banishment.