New Jersey Will Refuse to Do Business with Banks, Retailers that Resist Stricter Gun-Control Measure

[livingston]

New Jersey Will Refuse to Do Business with Banks, Retailers that Resist Stricter Gun-Control Measures
New Jersey’s Democratic governor, Phil Murphy, is expected to sign an executive order Tuesday that will leverage the state’s purchasing power to coerce gun retailers, manufacturers, and financial institutions to comply with a more stringent gun-control regime.

Under the executive order, the state, which purchases an estimated $70 million in firearms and related equipment annually, will refuse to do business with gun manufacturers and retailers that lack policies that deny guns to people with a history of mental illness or domestic abuse, the New York Times first reported. Retailers that wish to keep the state’s business will be required to “prevent, detect and screen for the transfer of firearms to straw purchasers or firearm traffickers.”

Murphy’s order will also deny the roughly $1 billion in financial-transaction fees the state pays annually to banks that have relationships with gun manufacturers and retailers that adhere to permissive policies.
New Jersey Banks & Guns -- State Will Refuse Business with Banks, Retailers that Resist Stricter Gun-Control | National Review

 

[Marine Cpl]

Gun manufacturers have the ability to end gun control quickly. All they have to do is refuse to sell guns, parts, and ammo to law enforcement agencies of each anti gun state. They would cave eventually but the dollar prevents them.

 

[BDinPutnam]

I smell lawsuits.

 

[Podmonkey]

The industry cut off Dicks and it hurt em pretty bad. The industry should cut off Jersey completely.

 

[GOPerfect]

I agree with Will; stop selling to the Police Departments, federal agencies and the military. Hell, just toss out that threat!

 

[Acer-m14]

and adding on to Will and GOPerfect .. Gun Shops and Gunsmiths and Ranges too .. just put it out there .. let them choke on the idea for a month or 2 ..

 

[Truebeliever]

Gun manufacturers have the ability to end gun control quickly. All they have to do is refuse to sell guns, parts, and ammo to law enforcement agencies of each anti gun state. They would cave eventually but the dollar prevents them.

Stop thinking that will stop this anti-gun politicians. They don’t care if the police have or don’t have their product. They aren’t the ones who have to do that job. A dead cop is just a political opportunity to them.

 

[GOPerfect]

Stop thinking that will stop this anti-gun politicians. They don’t care if the police have or don’t have their product. They aren’t the ones who have to do that job. A dead cop is just a political opportunity to them.

No, maybe not. But what this idea may do is begin to wake some more people up. People that may vote better.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Gun manufacturers have the ability to end gun control quickly. All they have to do is refuse to sell guns, parts, and ammo to law enforcement agencies of each anti gun state. They would cave eventually but the dollar prevents them.

If they all join together with a unified purpose, this is an effective strategy. One company breaks the line and it's a waste.

 

[Marine Cpl]

It’ll never happen just like the police as a whole won’t refuse to enforce these laws but it could if either made it happen. The one who breaks the line would ruin everything.

 

[spat]

Stop thinking that will stop this anti-gun politicians. They don’t care if the police have or don’t have their product. They aren’t the ones who have to do that job. A dead cop is just a political opportunity to them.

If the people pushing this crap have to walk around with their bodyguards disarmed because of it they might think twice.

 

[spat]

If they all join together with a unified purpose, this is an effective strategy. One company breaks the line and it's a waste.

The state would sue them all claiming (correctly) that it is an illegal cartel under anti trust laws.

 

[Truebeliever]

If the people pushing this crap have to walk around with their bodyguards disarmed because of it they might think twice.

Yeah, right. As if They couldn’t find enough guns just to protect themselves, if gun makers decided not fulfill police contracts.

They do not care.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

The state would sue them all claiming (correctly) that it is an illegal cartel under anti trust laws.

So the state can "muscle" businesses, interfere with economics, and basically manipulate anyone any way they want.

 

[spat]

So the state can "muscle" businesses, interfere with economics, and basically manipulate anyone any way they want.

They absolutely can, they do it all the time.

They shouldn't be able to. But they can. The same way a mugger can take your wallet. Pretending they can't do it just because they shouldn't be allowed to is denying reality.

 

[Bigfoot]

How can someone not like guns?
I have liked guns since I was a little boy.
All my friends then and now like guns.
What's there not to like?

Gun grabbers are very strange people.

 

[dubleuhb]

It's not about liking them, these people fear them. Kids got raised on suburbia, void of opportunity to be around guns. Their kids the same thing, and now their kids have been indoctrinated that the are evil baby killing soul stealing good for nothing things that nobody should be trusted with.
It's not that they don't like them, they have been so misinformed or programmed to hate them that just a picture causes them to cower in their safe place.

Hate to say it but the 2A's days are numbered. They may not ever repeal it but they have a head of steam now, businesses are making it harder, courts don't want to touch a real case that would have any meaningful outcome and government is those people brought it up in the suburbs for the most part. It's being removed from our lives little by little.

Just think of the things that you did or people you did when you were young that involved firearms. Do they even make gun racks for your pickup truck any more? If you had one and put your fully neutered AR in it and drove into the city how long before you get pulled over and told to exit your vehicle and get on the ground all the while covered by a half dozen itchy nervous trigger fingers.

We're fucked if you ask me, hell we can't even come together as a pro gun community, just read some of the bashing on here. Then look at the NRA, what a friggin joke that has become.
All the while the anti gun nuts are laughing their asses off at us. They have us backed into a corner and we don't have the balls anymore to come out swinging. It's almost like people are to ashamed to be pro gun nowadays, gotta keep everything on the down low, shhhhh, yep but hey I am a big 2A supporter.
Ok, I'm done, I'm starting to piss myself off, I'm going to set up targets and ...........

 

[BDinPutnam]

What does it tell you (other than that I'm stupid) that I escaped New Jersey for... New York?

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Every vendor needs to know the law in NYS in case this crap is tried, here. Specifically, number 8, and moreso, number 9.
New York Consolidated Laws, Penal Law - PEN § 135.60 | FindLaw

A person is guilty of coercion in the third degree when he or she compels or induces a person to engage in conduct which the latter has a legal right to abstain from engaging in, or to abstain from engaging in conduct in which he or she has a legal right to engage, or compels or induces a person to join a group, organization or criminal enterprise which such latter person has a right to abstain from joining, by means of instilling in him or her a fear that, if the demand is not complied with, the actor or another will:

8. Use or abuse his or her position as a public servant by performing some act within or related to his or her official duties, or by failing or refusing to perform an official duty, in such manner as to affect some person adversely;  or

9. Perform any other act which would not in itself materially benefit the actor but which is calculated to harm another person materially with respect to his or her health, safety, business, calling, career, financial condition, reputation or personal relationships.

It becomes a felony if #1 is satisfied, here - The reasonable fear of it is adequate.
New York Consolidated Laws, Penal Law - PEN § 135.65 | FindLaw

A person is guilty of coercion in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of coercion in the third degree, and when:

1. He or she commits such crime by instilling in the victim a fear that he or she will cause physical injury to a person or cause damage to property;  or

 

[meketrefe]

When thousands of hardworking NJ business owners and residents hear this they realize it will be a time they will be pretty much be forzed to move out of what once was a free state.
One wonders who these officials realy represent

 

[E the massive]

Stop thinking that will stop this anti-gun politicians. They don’t care if the police have or don’t have their product. They aren’t the ones who have to do that job. A dead cop is just a political opportunity to them.

How would they arm their security details? Stop selling to private security that does business with antigunners.

 

[Truebeliever]

How would they arm their security details? Stop selling to private security that does business with antigunners.

Really? Is this a serious question.

They would buy as private individuals especially guns that are already on the market. Or in their case, guns they “bought back” from everyone else against their will.

They would just use guns already in inventory. They don’t understand wear and tear or reliability issues. They think all guns are the same and evil.

Anti gunners in general can’t even understand why one would need to own more than one gun.