New tarrifs against Mexico have been suspended.

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Once again, Mr. Trump, I publicly thank you for your willingness to protect us against the unlawful violations of our laws and our boarders.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago




I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!
 
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"The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law."

U.S.-Mexico Joint Declaration - United States Department of State

- Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico,

- Migrant Protection Protocols
This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.

- Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions.



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Reported on mainstream media they sent 6000 troops to the southern Mexican border.
 
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Willjr75 said:
At first I thought the same but it turns out that most of the people in those migrant caravans aren't even Mexican. They are from places south of Mexico traveling through Mexico.
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same after I posted .. but what about the ones at the northern side the just let walk in ..

6000 south and should be 6000 north deployed .. ..
 
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Curmudgeon said:
Whatever. Tariffs get passed on to the consumers. You and I pay for them. .
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Dont be nieve ,your not going yo pay 20 k more for a gm pick up truck, your not going tp pay 25% more for a corona. And your not paying 2 dollars more for advacados grown in mexico.

Its democratic nonsense, dont step in the bullshit
 
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holdover said:
Dont be nieve ,your not going yo pay 20 k more for a gm pick up truck, your not going tp pay 25% more for a corona. And your not paying 2 dollars more for advacados grown in mexico.

Its democratic nonsense, dont step in the bullshit
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Can you retype? Think I missed your point due to fat fingers?
 
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oc shooter said:
like the deal but it's too early for me to celebrate gotta see how well Mexico does on there part
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fresch said:
Reported on mainstream media they sent 6000 troops to the southern Mexican border.
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Willjr75 said:
At first I thought the same but it turns out that most of the people in those migrant caravans aren't even Mexican. They are from places south of Mexico traveling through Mexico.
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As much as I like the idea. If there aren't 6000 troops near OUR border then I'm not impressed. Even if most of the illegals are from south of mexico (don't know if that's true) what about the actual mexicans illegally crossing? At our border you can catch them all. Not only that but all that's gonna happen is mexico is gonna have the same problem we have at our border on their southern border. Will results be shared with the US?
 
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Curmudgeon said:
Can you retype? Think I missed your point due to fat fingers?
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Sorry I was on my phone. The point is basic economics. The tariffs impose a 25% mark up in cost on Mexican goods. The market rate for those goods, is 25% less. So say you own a super market and lettuce from Mexico is now 25% more. Do you buy Mexican lettuce and hope you can sell it at a 25% mark up ? And hope it doesn't rot in your ware house? Or do you find another source for your lettuce and sell it at a regular price?

People are not going to buy Mexican lettuce for 7 dollars a head when they can go down the street and buy Lettuce from Somewhere else for for 4 Dollars a head. The market determines the fair price for goods, what people are willing to pay for it. If you mark your steaks up to 100 dollars a pound , the market wont buy it and your steaks will rot .

So when the Media tells you Americans are going to be paying more for Mexican goods , They're not.Oh the prices are marked up, but no ones buying it at those prices. In other words, American business will not import Mexican goods at those prices because they cant move the product at those prices and will find another source for those goods . That's how it really works.

Say you want to buy 556 ammo , Are you going to buy the Mexican 556 for 25% more? Hell no your not. So nobody is really paying higher prices . Its democratic fear mongering bullshit.

Hope that cleared it up
 
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gun_slinger_boy said:
As much as I like the idea. If there aren't 6000 troops near OUR border then I'm not impressed. Even if most of the illegals are from south of mexico (don't know if that's true) what about the actual mexicans illegally crossing? At our border you can catch them all. Not only that but all that's gonna happen is mexico is gonna have the same problem we have at our border on their southern border. Will results be shared with the US?
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My guess is, its just lip service. The Mexicans will play ball , to a point, and see what happens at election time, If trump is out , then back to business as usual . I guess.
 
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holdover said:
My guess is, its just lip service. The Mexicans will play ball , to a point, and see what happens at election time, If trump is out , then back to business as usual . I guess.
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At this point I don't even know if deportation is enough. By deportation I mean an ACTUAL effort to deport illegals. They just manage to come back and that doesn't stop the inflow. Not giving entitlements to non citizens is what is needed paired with enforcement. It has to become extremely hostile to be here illegally. But those things will never happen so I don't even know why I waste my breath on these things.
 
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holdover said:
Sorry I was on my phone. The point is basic economics. The tariffs impose a 25% mark up in cost on Mexican goods. The market rate for those goods, is 25% less. So say you own a super market and lettuce from Mexico is now 25% more. Do you buy Mexican lettuce and hope you can sell it at a 25% mark up ? And hope it doesn't rot in your ware house? Or do you find another source for your lettuce and sell it at a regular price?

People are not going to buy Mexican lettuce for 7 dollars a head when they can go down the street and buy Lettuce from Somewhere else for for 4 Dollars a head. The market determines the fair price for goods, what people are willing to pay for it. If you mark your steaks up to 100 dollars a pound , the market wont buy it and your steaks will rot .

So when the Media tells you Americans are going to be paying more for Mexican goods , They're not.Oh the prices are marked up, but no ones buying it at those prices. In other words, American business will not import Mexican goods at those prices because they cant move the product at those prices and will find another source for those goods . That's how it really works.

Say you want to buy 556 ammo , Are you going to buy the Mexican 556 for 25% more? Hell no your not. So nobody is really paying higher prices . Its democratic fear mongering bullshit.

Hope that cleared it up
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Thanks. Get your point now. I'm pretty sure that if we predominantly get our lettuce from Mexico and there's a 25% tariff, the non-Mexican lettuce will jump in price by about 20%.
 
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So you think Budwiser will increase by 20% because Coronas are 25% more? There is no real shortage of beer, If bud raises prices , Coors goes on sale, for 5% less, grabs up the market, and Bud sits on the shelf for 25% more losing
money, stock goes down . Your only half right in theory, Supply and demand, but there is plenty of supply, which keeps the costs down. If we had no other sources for Lettuce , your right , were fucked, Were forced to pay more because there is no where else to get it. But if there is plenty of supply , nobody cares what your asking for your lettuce , they're going next door. Theres 5 stores selling Lettuce , the Mexican store is 25% higher , Nobodys buying Mexican lettuce. The other stores are still competing for the sales the Mexican store would have got. If there was only one other lettuce competitor , Then yeah, they can price gouge and mark up their lettuce 15-20% and not have to worry about losing sales. Overall, The price may go up a few pennies ,if they can get it, but not 20%
 
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