NM Gov. Bans Carrying As A Public Health Emergency

[Deplorable Me]

Wvvet
September 10, 2023 1:10 am


What is it with these loony women in positions of authority? Mi., NY, NM…then there’s the prosecutors.

Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham Says "Her Duty to Uphold the Constitution is Not Absolute" - The Last Refuge

After declaring a “Local Health Emergency” to ban the carrying of firearms in/around Alburquerque, New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham explains her position by saying the rights of crime victims supersede the constitutional rights of all New Mexico citizens. Victimhood defines the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

What happens when people become victims of the government?

 

[Deplorable Me]

The doors on the loony bin are open.

Group Sues After New Mexico Governor Suspends Right To Carry Guns In Albuquerque In Public - Democratic Underground Forums

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[Russ Woody]

I can't imagine people in NM are going to listen to this crazy bitch any more than we listen to Hochul. I carry whenever and wherever I want to w/ the exception of State and Federal Buildings and schools.

Nothings changed after her antics in my life.

 

[Slacker43]

I can't imagine people in NM are going to listen to this crazy bitch any more than we listen to Hochul. I carry whenever and wherever I want to w/ the exception of State and Federal Buildings and schools.

Nothings changed after her antics in my life.

Same here. All it did was give me a reason to buy another carry gun. I'm not giving up my rights because the left runs this shit hole.

 

[lrick]

The treatment of everyone as if they are a criminal.

Imagine if they applied this same kind of logic to fighting corruption and organized crime by identifying the money laundering that accompanies it.

We might see limits placed upon us all that flag any financial transaction over a certain amount that then gets reported to .gov - pick a nice round number....say $600?



Rules For Radicals....never let a crisis go to waste.....especially those you create.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Executive order = I'm a wanna be dictator.

 

[Bigfoot]

Issuing an "emergency public health order" is the tactic that they will use from now on to quickly get around any checks and balances and or Constitutional issues. They learned how successful that was during the covid scam. Now they will use that tool often.

An "emergency public health order" will never actually have anything to do with public health.
Just like the covid restrictions and mandates didn't have anything to do with the actual virus that has a 99.5+% survival rate. But that's how the Democrats roll.

 

[Bigfoot]

The governor also said that her duty to uphold her oath to the constitution is "not absolute".

Well, why even bother to take the oath if that's true? Any elected US politician who believes that and is willing to voice it to the citizenry should be forced to resign immediately.

 

[Bigfoot]

You can bet that Hochul the Horrible is watching this situation closely with great anticipation.

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[Sunshine Patriot]

She's a piece of work - And this

Flashback: NM Governor Michelle Grisham Caught Using Taxpayer Money to Pay for Her Groceries, Whiskey and Tequila | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

In March of 2020 New Mexico Governor Michelle Grisham locked down her state due to the coronavirus threat.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[lrick]

She's a piece of work - And this

Flashback: NM Governor Michelle Grisham Caught Using Taxpayer Money to Pay for Her Groceries, Whiskey and Tequila | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

In March of 2020 New Mexico Governor Michelle Grisham locked down her state due to the coronavirus threat.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

If they didn't oust her over that, I have little faith they'll oust her over this. #New Cuxicans

 

[livingston]

 

[lrick]

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This clip seems appropriate

 

[lrick]

Well here comes the NRA...maybe they needed a little more time than GOA to consult their lawyers, maybe conduct a poll or two, check on some donors, etc....

NRA slams Democratic governor's gun order, issues harsh advice

The NRA issued an exclusive response to Fox News Digital slamming New Mexico Democratic Gov. Lujan Grisham for temporarily suspending open and concealed carry across Albuquerque.

www.foxnews.com

They do make a point.
The New Mexico Bill of Rights guarantees the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, and all other lawful purposes. Under the New Mexico Civil Rights Act, signed into law by @GovMLG, a person whose rights under the Bill of Rights are violated may sue to recover for damages and obtain injunctive relief.
Damages may be awarded up to $2 million per person whose rights were violated.

 

[Plater1]

Well here comes the NRA...maybe they needed a little more time than GOA to consult their lawyers, maybe conduct a poll or two, check on some donors, etc....

NRA slams Democratic governor's gun order, issues harsh advice

The NRA issued an exclusive response to Fox News Digital slamming New Mexico Democratic Gov. Lujan Grisham for temporarily suspending open and concealed carry across Albuquerque.

www.foxnews.com

They do make a point.
The New Mexico Bill of Rights guarantees the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, and all other lawful purposes. Under the New Mexico Civil Rights Act, signed into law by @GovMLG, a person whose rights under the Bill of Rights are violated may sue to recover for damages and obtain injunctive relief.
Damages may be awarded up to $2 million per person whose rights were violated.

Lets do some quick math here. $2 million per citizen times 2,110,001 New Mexicans = she is out of a job!

New Mexico Population 2024 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[lrick]

Lets do some quick math here. $2 million per citizen times 2,110,001 New Mexicans = she is out of a job!

New Mexico Population 2024 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)

worldpopulationreview.com

...and the state goes bankrupt. I do love it when libs reap what they sow.


But, they'll make it a class action suit, the primary filers will make bank while the rest get peanuts.

 

[FP1201]

Why stop there. Let's suspend the 4th amendment too, we can stop/frisk everyone on the streets, and let's do a daily door to door search of everyone's homes. Might as well suspend the 5th too, answer the question slave!

Remember that bombing at the Boston Marathon years back? Yea, the Po-Po suspended/ignored Citizen's Rights for a witch hunt... do you not remember the video footage of "Law Enforcement" riding down neighborhood streets pointing emplacement weapons at any who dare lift their eyes? Demanding entry for search without warrant, reasonable suspicion, or probable cause? Not the first infringement, not likely the last.

 

[livingston]

New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has issued an emergency public health order temporarily suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and surrounding Bernalillo County.

apnews.com

Miranda Viscoli, co-president of New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence, applauded the governor’s order as a courageous and necessary step to curbing gun violence, even if the measure’s legal fate is uncertain.


“If it saves one life, then it’s worth doing,” Viscoli said.

 

[Saltwater60]

Can we declare a state of emergency against the government since were in charge and not them?

 

[Beerman]

“If it saves one life, then it’s worth doing,” Viscoli said.

“Son- that’s just not smart. That’s like spending a dollar to save a dime.” -My Dad

How ‘bout “If it saves one life, it’s a beginning. If it saves a hundred, it’s worthwhile. If it saves a thousand, it’s progress. If it diminishes, ruins or ends another life, it’s all just ideological, self-serving fallacy.”

 

[spat]

At a certain point, we have to question the validity of such decrees and question what the response should be by the people. That's the nicest way I can put it.

The lesson from Jan 6th is:

If you're not prepared to go all the way, don't go at all.

The PS is, if you *are* going all the way, there is no point in slowly escalating.

 

[lrick]

“Son- that’s just not smart. That’s like spending a dollar to save a dime.” -My Dad

How ‘bout “If it saves one life, it’s a beginning. If it saves a hundred, it’s worthwhile. If it saves a thousand, it’s progress. If it diminishes, ruins or ends another life, it’s all just ideological, self-serving fallacy.”

I get what your saying.

It's an unprovable supposition and arbitrary quantity made up in their heads.

They say "if this ban saves one life it's worth it", so I say, "not banning guns will save 5 lives", so why wouldn't my position not be more worth it? Hard to prove either, but my position has a better chance of being backed up.

This thread touches on just that.

Massive errors in FBI active shooting reports

Want to guess which way the errors went? https://crimeresearch.org/2023/08/massive-errors-in-fbis-active-shooting-reports-from-2014-2022-regarding-cases-where-civilians-stop-attacks-instead-of-4-6-the-correct-number-is-at-least-35-7-in-2022-it-is-at-least-41-3/ Massively understated the number...

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[Beerman]

I get what your saying.

It's an unprovable supposition and arbitrary quantity made up in their heads.

They say "if this ban saves one life it's worth it", so I say, "not banning guns will save 5 lives", so why wouldn't my position not be more worth it? Hard to prove either, but my position has a better chance of being backed up.

This thread touches on just that.

Massive errors in FBI active shooting reports

Want to guess which way the errors went? https://crimeresearch.org/2023/08/massive-errors-in-fbis-active-shooting-reports-from-2014-2022-regarding-cases-where-civilians-stop-attacks-instead-of-4-6-the-correct-number-is-at-least-35-7-in-2022-it-is-at-least-41-3/ Massively understated the number...

nygunforum.com

Old news. Still noteworthy.
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[lrick]

Old news. Still noteworthy.
Old post

Yes, it's the refreshed statistics of an old story that lingers. Year to year the data it shows doesn't fit the narrative and is ignored by the mainstream.

Frankly it doesn't matter what that data shows either way. The Constitution does not set a threshold to allow abridging our Rights. Gun bans are unConstitutional. Full Stop.

 

[livingston]

Two lawmakers call for impeachment of Governor Lujan Grisham after public health order​

 

[Bigfoot]

Can we declare a state of emergency against the government since were in charge and not them?

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[Acer-m14]

 

[Acer-m14]

where are the arrests ?? come on sheriffs ..

 

[Acer-m14]

NM GOV .. 2 weeks before election voting time ..

due to a public health emergency all voting rights will be suspended for 30 days and maybe longer ..

 

[lrick]

where are the arrests ?? come on sheriffs ..

I believe there was a sheriff at the table too.

Sheriffs are also politicians. Too many more loyal to the ballot box than the Constitution.

They probably know this is a trial balloon exercise and have been cut some political slack to distance themselves from it. Sheriff John Allen is a dem and is likely more or less on board.

Until someone takes LE action against her, all their words mean shit.