No More Heating With Firewood In New York?
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TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
And another law, making it possible to file a lawsuit against the manufacturers for climate damage caused by their devices emissions.
I wonder if the AG's office will be sending cease and desist orders to stove dealers in other states.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It's not enough holes man.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
If one reads some of that bill they are looking for a carbon free world ... These people don't care. about us... Global warming is a religion to them ... 100 % carbon neutral world in 30 years ....One needs to keep an eye on Europe ... Wood stoves today are banned in many countries.We have people with radical agenda's running the world and they want to transform our lives
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Think I'll have a fire today in my home made un-serialized woodstove and burn some organically grown firewood from my 35 acres in Annsville. 
I'm sure that all of the Boy Scout Campground Cabins across NYS will be affected. They use propane as a backup heat source but primarilly heat all of those cabins with wood which is plentiful and 'free'. Who is the author of this POS?
100% hobo-warmer!
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Those are just the security checkpoints at the Albany Hellport. There was money for it in the infrastructure bill. There was more than enough for each state to get one.
No vaccine passport required to board.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
There will be no bill needed. It will soon be done by unelected bureaucrats enforcing some unvoted on rule, regulation, or letter since the morons in NY just voted in Proposition #2.
New York Proposal 2, Environmental Rights Amendment (2021)
Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics
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Paxal
.223 Rem
It’s sad how ill informed “leaders” are. Wood burning stoves create CO2 but dont contribute to global warming like fossil fuels do. Trees sequester and release CO2 on a human life time frame and are therefore considered to be carbon neutral. So, in the larger picture, banning wood burning doesn’t change anything.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Also, I thought it was more environmentally friendly to have tree farms and cut them down and plant new? I remember reading something a while back that it's actually more green because the younger trees do a better job at cleaning up the air.
Not sure if it was Christmas tree farms, tree farms for paper production, or if it was for firewood production.
I also know that it's popular to convert the wood saw dust into compacted logs and pellets using an screw-type extruder system.
Not sure if it was Christmas tree farms, tree farms for paper production, or if it was for firewood production.
I also know that it's popular to convert the wood saw dust into compacted logs and pellets using an screw-type extruder system.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Regardless if the bill bans wood heating or not I don’t trust them. Look what NYC is doing to cap the carbon emissions from each home. This will likely do the same for the state. I’ll burn my garbage to piss them off.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Oh My god really...you have a good harvest forest mangement program and cut down to heat your home and they ban in...screw you....I would nt comply for usre...I just switched to wood pellets from wood a few years ago and I dont see wood pellets included in that ban but If I got my own wood of my land screw you I can do what I want....Yeah...wood stoves are the reason for climate change...Yep.....Man its getting crazy here...cant wait to get to S.C. in a few years!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD
hope to buy land in the spring......
hope to buy land in the spring......
jimc
.223 Rem
Maybe the wood stoves melted the glaciers in the Finger Lakes Regions 10,000 years ago. Oh wait, no, it was the 1 ton diesels with no DEF systems...
There going to have a real conundrum here in The 'Hood.
We're surrounded by the woods, many make money selling "camp wood" to touristas.
No new homes built or old homes refurb'ed can have electric baseboard heating. Wherever our electric comes from (not National Greed - think it's the NY Power Authority), we have max'ed out.
So from now on it's propane, fuel oil or wood/pellet stoves.
We're surrounded by the woods, many make money selling "camp wood" to touristas.
No new homes built or old homes refurb'ed can have electric baseboard heating. Wherever our electric comes from (not National Greed - think it's the NY Power Authority), we have max'ed out.
So from now on it's propane, fuel oil or wood/pellet stoves.
We have people with radical agenda's running the world and they want to transform our lives
There are already warnings of "rolling electricity blackouts" this winter in Europe.
And if someone in Europe pisses off Putin - "no gas for You!!!"
Gazprom has Europe by the cojones.
Some of France's nuclear reactors are off-line because of "faults" - France's EDF takes more nuclear reactors offline after faults found
100% carbon neutral is complete and utter bullshit. People aren't 100% carbon neutral.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Trump warned them about that pipeline
Joe Biden Has Given Vladimir Putin a Huge Win on the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline | Opinion
Trump also adamantly opposed and issued strong sanctions to try to prevent the construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, a nearly completed, but stalled, 764-mile natural gas pipeline connecting Russia with Germany via the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was, and remains, an indispensable tool by which Putin and Russia can deploy energy and economic leverage over the European continent, permitting the Kremlin to both crowd out ascendant American natural gas exports and dangle energy sufficiency as a "sword of Damocles" hovering over vulnerable European heads.On Wednesday, roughly a week after German Chancellor Angela Merkel left Washington, D.C., the U.S. and Germany issued a joint statement signing off on the completion of Nord Stream 2. The Biden administration's approval of Nord Stream 2 marks the culmination of a stunning about-face. Biden himself has often called Putin a "KGB thug." White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki asserted just last month that the administration "continues to believe that Nord Stream 2 is a bad deal for Europe." State Department Spokesman Ned Price on Tuesday—literally one day before the Biden/Merkel joint statement—blasted the pipeline as a "Kremlin geopolitical project that is intended to expand Russia's influence over Europe's energy resources and to circumvent Ukraine."
Joe Biden Has Given Vladimir Putin a Huge Win on the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline
What could possibly explain such bizarre and counterproductive behavior?
www.newsweek.com
Trump warned them about that pipeline
Joe Biden Has Given Vladimir Putin a Huge Win on the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline | Opinion
Trump also adamantly opposed and issued strong sanctions to try to prevent the construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, a nearly completed, but stalled, 764-mile natural gas pipeline connecting Russia with Germany via the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was, and remains, an indispensable tool by which Putin and Russia can deploy energy and economic leverage over the European continent, permitting the Kremlin to both crowd out ascendant American natural gas exports and dangle energy sufficiency as a "sword of Damocles" hovering over vulnerable European heads.
On Wednesday, roughly a week after German Chancellor Angela Merkel left Washington, D.C., the U.S. and Germany issued a joint statement signing off on the completion of Nord Stream 2. The Biden administration's approval of Nord Stream 2 marks the culmination of a stunning about-face. Biden himself has often called Putin a "KGB thug." White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki asserted just last month that the administration "continues to believe that Nord Stream 2 is a bad deal for Europe." State Department Spokesman Ned Price on Tuesday—literally one day before the Biden/Merkel joint statement—blasted the pipeline as a "Kremlin geopolitical project that is intended to expand Russia's influence over Europe's energy resources and to circumvent Ukraine."
Joe Biden Has Given Vladimir Putin a Huge Win on the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline
What could possibly explain such bizarre and counterproductive behavior?
It's interesting to note, as I'm sure you have, that the dependence of Germany on Nord Stream 2, thus Russia, and thus, ultimately, Putin, make Germany an unreliable NATO ally.
Thus, the maneuvering of Russia/Belarus in the Ukraine/Baltics region becomes quite a complex situation.
Once again, the fUSA puts its nose in a position to be chopped off, again.
This. State. Sucks.
Well actually we have a beautiful state, of of the best around. Our government and 51% of the people although are as you say!
DavidL
.45 acp
If they are going after ATVs, snowmobiles will be next.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
so I wonder how they are going to handle all the wood burners in the north country?? My Off Grid cabin is heated ONLY by wood. I have no other option, many people up there have the same issue.
The only way to my cabin is by boat or snowmobile/ATV. so how they are going to come after me should interesting. In the spring and fall it can get down the the teens, and if they think Im hauling propane tanks across the lake the can kiss my ass
The only way to my cabin is by boat or snowmobile/ATV. so how they are going to come after me should interesting. In the spring and fall it can get down the the teens, and if they think Im hauling propane tanks across the lake the can kiss my ass
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I bought a wood stove this fall. I love the thing. If the power grid ever went down in the winter, Im going to have a lot of new friends.
I have a generator too, but 5 gallons burns for eight or ten hours , say 8 , Thats 15 gallons a day x 3.50 = $52 a day x 7 days = 364 a week, x4 is 1450 for the month. I doubt We ever be without power that long but in the event it did thats a lot of money, Then theres the storage problem . and of course in an event like that supplies would be low and prices could be doubled . For me a generator is a short term solution, wood stove I can burn forever and I can cook on it
I have a generator too, but 5 gallons burns for eight or ten hours , say 8 , Thats 15 gallons a day x 3.50 = $52 a day x 7 days = 364 a week, x4 is 1450 for the month. I doubt We ever be without power that long but in the event it did thats a lot of money, Then theres the storage problem . and of course in an event like that supplies would be low and prices could be doubled . For me a generator is a short term solution, wood stove I can burn forever and I can cook on it
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
DoOver
.450/400 Nitro Ex
OVER MY DEAD CARCASS!!
John Stark
.44 mag
No one is going to stop selling firewood above the 38th parallel of Rockland/Westchester. Ever.
Its a cheap and easy means of full-time, part-time, and fun money for anyone with a chainsaw and a splitter, and a crap ton of it is sold sans sales tax, insurance mandates, business licenses, or other crooked government arranged marketplace thefts.
The jackwagons down in Albany cannot comprehend the vast under the table economy that has been building the last 10-15 years with the onslaught of NY bullshit, including the off-books firewood trade. Under the table work has been big my entire lifetime, but it has skyrocketed the last couple of decades and I don't see that abating any time soon.
I know business owners who are lamenting the fact that they they ever went on the books given the number of people working under the table offering the same goods and services on the sly. Practically every industry is shadowed by an off-the-books underground economy that Albany has never been able to dent let alone stop.
Fuck NY.
Go ahead and ban firewood.
We'll be burning witches at the stake again, starting with that tramp calling herself a governor down there in Albany.
Its a cheap and easy means of full-time, part-time, and fun money for anyone with a chainsaw and a splitter, and a crap ton of it is sold sans sales tax, insurance mandates, business licenses, or other crooked government arranged marketplace thefts.
The jackwagons down in Albany cannot comprehend the vast under the table economy that has been building the last 10-15 years with the onslaught of NY bullshit, including the off-books firewood trade. Under the table work has been big my entire lifetime, but it has skyrocketed the last couple of decades and I don't see that abating any time soon.
I know business owners who are lamenting the fact that they they ever went on the books given the number of people working under the table offering the same goods and services on the sly. Practically every industry is shadowed by an off-the-books underground economy that Albany has never been able to dent let alone stop.
Fuck NY.
Go ahead and ban firewood.
We'll be burning witches at the stake again, starting with that tramp calling herself a governor down there in Albany.
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
ban the cutting of trees .. no more cleaning up dead wood in the state lands .. we can be like CALIFORNIA with WILD FIRES . WHOOT!! LOVE IT lol