Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Hahahahah, bet your'e right, well except for the ones that must be registered by law. FYNY!
Robin
Robin
No Registry Doesn't Mean the State Doesn't Have a Record
- Thread starter swilliams
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camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Maybe pull him aside some day when picking up the boy little and ask why he asked you.
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
Here's how and why the question came up.
The school used too many snow days, so they scheduled school on a day where half the families already had plans. Without enough of the kids present, instead of having regular classes, they stuck the kids who did show up in the gym with nothing to do. My daughter decided it would be funny to send hate mail, written in Latin, to her brother. Then her friend thought it would be funny to email it to her brother. Then dear daughter shows a complete lack of sense, and emails it to a random student, whose name auto-populates in the address field. So she threatened, harassed, and bullied another student.
When the cops first showed up, they asked about the hate mail. At this point, they were only aware that she'd sent it to the random kid, since the kid had reported it. I'm going "No way my daughter did that", but then went and got her school-issued iPad and saw what she'd done (composed it for her brother, then took stupid to a whole new level). About half an hour after the visit, I took her iPad down to the police station. That's when the question about the Beretta was asked. Until everything got sorted out, they wanted to see if she had any access to guns. Given the situation, why would the only ask about one? If they'd started looking at my social media, it would make sense to me that they'd have been equally concerned about the 1911.
The school used too many snow days, so they scheduled school on a day where half the families already had plans. Without enough of the kids present, instead of having regular classes, they stuck the kids who did show up in the gym with nothing to do. My daughter decided it would be funny to send hate mail, written in Latin, to her brother. Then her friend thought it would be funny to email it to her brother. Then dear daughter shows a complete lack of sense, and emails it to a random student, whose name auto-populates in the address field. So she threatened, harassed, and bullied another student.
When the cops first showed up, they asked about the hate mail. At this point, they were only aware that she'd sent it to the random kid, since the kid had reported it. I'm going "No way my daughter did that", but then went and got her school-issued iPad and saw what she'd done (composed it for her brother, then took stupid to a whole new level). About half an hour after the visit, I took her iPad down to the police station. That's when the question about the Beretta was asked. Until everything got sorted out, they wanted to see if she had any access to guns. Given the situation, why would the only ask about one? If they'd started looking at my social media, it would make sense to me that they'd have been equally concerned about the 1911.
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
I should just ask him how the cops came by the information, but I haven't seen him. We couldn't field a 5th grade team this year, so my son played up, and his kid played down. We weren't on the same teams this year, and the boys are in different schools.
AND what anybody owns in a free state, where personal transactions are allowed to take place.
Our guns are not listed on our CCDW permit, and we do not have any type of gun registration. Once a gun is purchased and the 4473 is done, I can do whatever I want with it. As long as the person I am selling/giving it to is not a restricted person. My only responsibility, is to not have any reason to believe the person is restricted, up to and including asking them. I personally would and have only done gun deals with Folks I know down here. I probably don't have 1/2 of the guns I left NYS with, and added more than I got rid of (most of my acquisitions were "off the record", personal deals!!).
Hell, down here, if you have a CCDW there is no NICS check done. All the gun shop does is records your CCDW number on the 4473, and puts it away. Even if the ATF were to go into a shop and confiscate the records for some reason, all they would know is that the gun was purchased on a certain date. After that I could have sold it, gifted it, gave it away, or buried it!! Either way they have no idea of what I own.
Fuck big brother!!
It truly is a big, big nation out there, and sometimes people forget that .gov doesn't really have the means to come knocking on doors to collect your shit.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
My guess: Gander Mountain CLOSED. All 4473's for all stores revert to the BATFE, which is under the DOJ. The same DOJ that produced the likes of Mueller, Comey, Stzrok, etc. under Barry's direction. Knowledge is power and they will exercise their power with no qualms whatsoever in any direction they see fit. Law be damned if it impedes any goal of our "betters"
Remember, Gander used electronic 4473's - it's on the internet.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
That was my thought too. When FFLs close all their records go the ATF. If they're electronic all the easier for the ATF to access them. I purchased two pistols from Gander Mountain when they were still open (A Ruger Vaquero Bisley revolver and a Ruger SR 1911) so they undoubtedly know about those.