NRA to go on offensive

[Celt]

The Guardian: Trump Victory Provides NRA Historic 'Moment to Go on Offense'

I will renew my nra membership if they do, in fact i would be likely to py for a life memership if they get exactly hat they say in this article.

Im going to email them now, and i urge everyone else to do the same.

 

[dsdmmat]

I hope they sue the communist state's and the ATF for violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments in federal court.

 

[Celt]

I hope they sue the communist state's and the ATF for violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments in federal court.

If they successfully did that I buy life memberships for my whole family.

 

[togmaster]

I hope they do but only time will tell.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Everywhere except NY

 

[Phauxtoe]

Let's apply the Rights in the BOR with an even hand!

In all cases
All states
And all cities!

 

[Marine Cpl]

Until the get rid of Sullivan and may issue, they will not get a red cent from me.

 

[speedkills27]

I'll need to see some progress here in NY before I'll donate. IMHO SCOPE has done more for ny gun owners the. NRA ever has

 

[eagleridge357]

You anti-NRA freakoffs will change your tune when The Donald and The Wayne get together and begin to set things right (no pun intended).

Seems you guys conveniently ignore all the good the NRA has done over the years for youth, trained instructors, firearm safety education, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Go piss up a bent drainpipe, then go shit into your favorite cap.

 

[Marine Cpl]

You anti-NRA freakoffs will change your tune when The Donald and The Wayne get together and begin to set things right (no pun intended).

Seems you guys conveniently ignore all the good the NRA has done over the years for youth, trained instructors, firearm safety education, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Go piss up a bent drainpipe, then go shit into your favorite cap.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Everyone is entitled to their opinions whether right or wrong.

In this case if you can answer truthfully that the NRA has done something good for NY that actually has given us some rights back, I will take back my statement.

The way I see it, for a hundred years they have never even attempted to challenge the Sullivan Act which is as unconstitutional as it could be. You cannot even take your wife shooting with your pistol without breaking the law. They were founded right here in NYC for Christ's sake.

I don't care about free pens, safety courses, and trained instructors. Quite honestly, those courses are a waste of time that teach the most basic of things that you should already know. We take them because we have to. I learned nothing I haven't already known and I was even taught some wrong things. IE you should shoot at 6 o'clock instead of point of aim, point of impact. You do that with a rifle and set your sights to hit center while aiming 6 o'clock and you will miss each and every time unless you use the exact sized target. Not all targets are a perfect circle 6 inches round. I didn't even argue with the guy who taught my course after he told me it was better that way because you can see the whole target.

Until I actually see something from them that benefits this state specifically, I will not be taxed without being represented.

 

[Deplorable Me]

You generally pay for the bus before you ride. You bet on the Super Bowl before the game. Doing nothing is not an option. NRA/SCOPE are not asking for your first born or a kidney just an annual membership . They're not perfect. You don't get to vote on their leadership unless you're a member.

In NY progress is pitifully slow. One year ago, Trump was the dark horse, black sheep , hind tit on the dog with a runt litter. This week liberal and democrat butts are puckering.

I will fight for and support both organizations in NY until such time I am buried with my favorite 1911. I plan on being buried face down so NY can eternally kiss my ass.

 

[Bananabandit]

Which member said something like (paraphrasing) you cant pay for the victory. You can only make money to fight. Something. Member come forward.

 

[218bee]

That "offensive" is 3 years too late...

 

[togmaster]

You anti-NRA freakoffs will change your tune when The Donald and The Wayne get together and begin to set things right (no pun intended).

Seems you guys conveniently ignore all the good the NRA has done over the years for youth, trained instructors, firearm safety education, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Go piss up a bent drainpipe, then go shit into your favorite cap.

Tell us how you really feel. Don't hold back this time.

 

[Saltwater60]

While I agree the bra has done shit in nys, but do you blame them. It would be like flushing $ down the toilet. Whit that being said I fully support scope and for this election cycle I did join the nra. They have helped a lot nationally and maybe just maybe they were enough to sway this election. So think about it in 4 years your $25-30 to the nra might get another Supreme Court justice or two that are fun supporters. Worth it now??

 

[Celt]

Until the get rid of Sullivan and may issue, they will not get a red cent from me.

If we get National reciprocity I believe that would nullify the May issue policy that any state has. Now the Sullivan Act is a whole other story tthat of course infuriates me, but if we can make some solid gains on several different key issues for 2nd Amendment protections, I think we'll be doing very good.

Then we have to keep fighting to get Astorino elected on a state level, and we have to fight to maintain a conservative (right of center at least)majority for the midterm elections. And looking even further forward, if the NRA and Trump do a good job going on the offensive then we need to push for a second term in 4 more years.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Remember all the FUDDS who didn't come out to vote and left us with Andy, then ask the NRA why NY is so worth it.

NRA is a smarter investor than most FUDDS .
.

 

[Twingy]

DRILL BABY DRILL!!!!

Wait, it's the same thing right?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

You anti-NRA freakoffs will change your tune when The Donald and The Wayne get together and begin to set things right (no pun intended).

Seems you guys conveniently ignore all the good the NRA has done over the years for youth, trained instructors, firearm safety education, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Go piss up a bent drainpipe, then go shit into your favorite cap.

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IF we get National carry it will NOT be any doings of the NRA...The Trumpster preached this during the primaries and will be the person getting it done for US You can P!$$ your money down the drain on the NRA..it's a free Country..The NRA has sat by and let the furher walk all over the Constitution. My Dad taught me all about firearms over 55 years ago. Responsible safety. You care to insult politicians; fine...insulting members on the forum is another thing because they don't see things your way. Your last paragraph was "Bravely Written"

 

[Darth]

You anti-NRA freakoffs will change your tune when The Donald and The Wayne get together and begin to set things right (no pun intended).

Seems you guys conveniently ignore all the good the NRA has done over the years for youth, trained instructors, firearm safety education, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Go piss up a bent drainpipe, then go shit into your favorite cap.

Can't I just use the shit that just came tumbling out of your mouth in this post?

"Now the NRA will do something!"

That's a good one!

Comprehensive list of things the NRA has done for NYers:

 

[IrishMick]

Saltwater60 Your finger hit the wrong key and spelled fun! Fun = Gun! I am a FUN rights supporter!

 

[BerettaGuy]

I guess the NRA was a shocked as the butt heads at NBC and CNN when the realized that the country isn't a bunch of liberal progressives mamby pambies.

They actually have a stake in repressive gun laws. When asked for help in the past they poopooed NY as a lost cause.
Probably rightly so.

But they capitulated to the media - Democrats and liberals in 1968 and again in the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 which gave us the current Background Checks and the AWB.

The rest as they say is History.
The Democrats and Liberals never liked them and they still weren't invited to Cocktail Parties.

some history:

1957—Moving into new headquarters, the NRA chose for its motto, "“Firearms Safety Education, Marksmanship Training, Shooting for Recreation.” By 1977, the motto changed. Now, it read "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed." The NRA's identification with the Second Amendment was in full swing. And its major PR line was well established: gun owners in America are under assault, and their rights to own weapons are threatened.

1960's—As social and political unrest moved through the country, the NRA's membership changed. College students were protesting the Vietnam War, and civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King, Jr. rose to prominence and threatened the NRA's predominantly white male membership. More and more, NRA members began to purchase guns expressly for self-protection. Marksmanship and sport-shooting became less prominent in the members' profile. Also: before 1959, there were only a few legal articles on the Second Amendment, the assumption being that the Amendment pertained to militia. During the 1960s, the NRA's publication, The American Rifleman, began foregrounding the Amendment, and "individual-rights" scholarship expanded.

1968—After the assassinations of President Kennedy, Malcolm X, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr., the NRA took criticism from its increasingly hardline membership for not stopping the passage of Congress's Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act that laid out a now familiar set of gun controls, some of which the NRA continues to fight today: sales to felons, drug users, and the mentally ill, as well as controlling the import of designated handguns and keeping more detailed purchasing records.

1976—Maxwell Rich, executive vice president of the NRA, announced that the organization would sell its building in Washington, D.C. and move to Colorado Springs. The move was intended to insulate the NRA from the corridors of the D.C. lobbyists and to rediscover its sporting and environmental awareness programs. Rich's decision outraged the hardline members of the organization. The leader of this faction was a Texan named Harlon Carter. An extraordinary shot himself, he won two national shooting titles and set 44 national shooting records. Carter was also head of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action (ILA), established in 1975 for the express purpose of resisting the gun-control proposals that arrived regularly from state and federal lawmakers.

Rich, disturbed by the growing contingency of reactionary NRA members who had become associated with the ILA, engineered the "Weekend Massacre" in November, 1976. He summarily fired 80 of Carter's cohorts who backed the ILA.

For the record I am a life member of the NRA.

 

[Mosinitis]

NRA will double down on junk mail and bullshit phone calls. I am still a member though.

 

[MoMan]

NRA will double down on junk mail and bullshit phone calls. I am still a member though.

^^^ This right here!! If the NRA would spend the money the members pay for dues on fighting the fight rather than to solicit more money from members, they may get somewhere.

 

[spat]

I hope they sue the communist state's and the ATF for violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments in federal court.

And trump could order the ATF not to get creative for the defense from those suits.
In a fair trial where they couldn't have their "experts" testify that a shoelace is a machine gun, for instance... they would get creamed.

 

[Deplorable Me]

NRA will double down on junk mail and bullshit phone calls. I am still a member though.

^^^ This right here!! If the NRA would spend the money the members pay for dues on fighting the fight rather than to solicit more money from members, they may get somewhere.

You can ask them to put you on a "do not call list" and the unopened NRA fundraising mail can go right in the recycle bin or fireplace. I'm lucky if I spend 15 minutes a year doing this.

 

[Phazer]

I am an NRA life member (joined after SAFE passed).
I live in New York.
From my vantage point, all the NRA does in this state is call me multiple times a week (by self-identified "paid solicitors") and ask for more money.

Sorry. But until I see a return on my investment....I'm not "investing" another dime in the organization.

 

[pjzwtl]

I get a kick out of folks blaming the NRA for NY's BS. NY and NY alone is responsible. Yea the city pretty much dictates state wide politics because too many to the north cant be bothered to get off their fat lazy asses to vote once a year. Then throw in all the fudds and like minded asshats and there you go..No amount of effort from the NRA or any other org will change that.

And I am no cheerleader for the NRA and I wouldn't give a dime to the NYSRPA until the King is gone and they do an about face.

 

[218bee]

Yeah, NY'ers are to blame, but are you gonna keep giving the schoolyard bully your lunch money or finally fight back? SAFE was the schoolyard fight & we got our asses kicked....the NRA is the big brother who always said "I got your back"....only to not bother to show up to have your back at the fight...Gave enough to them with really zero palpable return. SAFE sealed their fate with me, till I'm shown otherwise..

 

[Marine Cpl]

Just because Upstate NY'ers do not vote in numbers is still not reason enough to give the NRA a pass.

That argument makes no sense. It's either an infringement worth fighting or it isn't. One has nothing to do with the other. Winning the fight after going all the way to the top prevents other states from passing the same laws.