Nuclear War..Is That Where We Are Headed?

[Snappo]

I got no argument with you on that

I'm by no means a physicist. Like everyone else I took classes in undergrad and grad school and did a few labs. That's the extent of it. I have never smelted anything. At best I solder stuff sometimes or weld stuff sometimes when working on my hobby cars. But I do know that humans melted metals by burning wood and the iron age was 3,000 years ago. Steel is just iron and a bit of carbon - we all know that. Google says I can melt iron at 2,800 degrees. From my USAF days, I am fairly certain JP4 is like a mix of gas and kerosene. Google says JP4 will go up to 6,670 degrees. Even with new math; 6,670 is greater than 2,800. So I'm sure those planes filled chock full of jet fuel could melt stupid iron. Especially if the wood in my back yard can. It's really hard to keep a secret. Anyone who ever had a girlfriend and a wife at the same time can attest to that fact. I cannot imagine how many people would need to keep a secret if the CIA built in all kinds of explosives to all those buildings, and that they didn't really kill a shit ton of civilians in planes. That would mean those people had to be paid off, the families had to be paid off, and every one of maybe 20,000 Americans had to 100% keep a secret. Yeah - I cannot even see 10 people keeping a secret, let alone 20,000.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

With everything going on recently, it just reminded me of an story I read from over the spring on Steve quayle.

Alerts

I found it interesting to re read now

 

[holdover]

I'm by no means a physicist. (Me neither) Like everyone else I took classes in undergrad and grad school and did a few labs. That's the extent of it. I have never smelted anything. At best I solder stuff sometimes or weld stuff sometimes when working on my hobby cars. But I do know that humans melted metals by burning wood and the iron age was 3,000 years ago. Steel is just iron and a bit of carbon - we all know that. Google says I can melt iron at 2,800 degrees. From my USAF days, I am fairly certain JP4 is like a mix of gas and kerosene. Google says JP4 will go up to 6,670 degrees. Even with new math; 6,670 is greater than 2,800. So I'm sure those planes filled chock full of jet fuel could melt stupid iron. (I don't necessarily agree with you there.But I wont argue the point. ) Especially if the wood in my back yard can. It's really hard to keep a secret. Anyone who ever had a girlfriend and a wife at the same time can attest to that fact. I cannot imagine how many people would need to keep a secret if the CIA( who said CIA?) built in all kinds of explosives to all those buildings, (Do not agree with that at all, manhatten project /area 51) and that they didn't really kill a shit ton of civilians in planes. That would mean those people had to be paid off, the families had to be paid off, and every one of maybe 20,000 Americans had to 100% keep a secret. Yeah - I cannot even see 10 people keeping a secret, let alone 20,000.

First off your argument that many people would have to keep their mouth shut would be easily solved if most/many of them were unknowingly on the planes that flew into the buildings. Most of the planes had government workers of some type. Any demolition work , if there was done would have been obviously outsourced to foreign agents .
Some may have not even have known the nature of their work. they may have been told that it was for future demo work , and that due to the nature of work, it had to be kept quiet for obvious reasons . Then when their work was done they were given a flight home courtesy of American airlines flight 11 to New York , Just one possibility

But the actual FACTS of 911 are disturbing, there are 3 Air wings TASKED with the protection of the skys above DC . which was on their mission statement before it was taken down. Not one fucking pilot left the ground even though NORAD was alerted at 845 of the hijackings almost two hours went by and nobody defended Washington DC , they could have Taxied a DAM FIGHTER FROM ANDREWS AFB!! Not one plane from Langly VA Not one plane went up over Philly or Baltimore even though the NORAD and the military KNEW we under attack , and did not know How many planes there were . They all sat on the tarmac waiting for impact. They failed on a massive level and NOBODY lost their job.

None of the Hijackers names were on any of the flight manifestos

Nobody in the Airforce followed protocols even though it is practiced on a daily basis

 

[holdover]

Firemen describe molten steel running down channels like a foundry:


Jet fuel did that? 90% of jet fuel exploded in a fireball OUT side of the building as it hit solids .

 

[Snappo]

First off your argument that many people would have to keep their mouth shut would be easily solved if most/many of them were unknowingly on the planes that flew into the buildings. Most of the planes had government workers of some type. Any demolition work , if there was done would have been obviously outsourced to foreign agents .
Some may have not even have known the nature of their work. they may have been told that it was for future demo work , and that due to the nature of work, it had to be kept quiet for obvious reasons . Then when their work was done they were given a flight home courtesy of American airlines flight 11 to New York , Just one possibility

But the actual FACTS of 911 are disturbing, there are 3 Air wings TASKED with the protection of the skys above DC . which was on their mission statement before it was taken down. Not one fucking pilot left the ground even though NORAD was alerted at 845 of the hijackings almost two hours went by and nobody defended Washington DC , they could have Taxied a DAM FIGHTER FROM ANDREWS AFB!! Not one plane from Langly VA Not one plane went up over Philly or Baltimore even though the NORAD and the military KNEW we under attack , and did not know How many planes there were . They all sat on the tarmac waiting for impact. They failed on a massive level and NOBODY lost their job.

None of the Hijackers names were on any of the flight manifestos

Nobody in the Airforce followed protocols even though it is practiced on a daily basis

I know loons that say the planes were spotted at the airport in Cleveland the next day. Lunacy. I cannot speak to the flight orders of the day filed with each ATC at each base. Who knows. But planes took out those buildings plain and simple. Not sure what you mean about the hijackers not being on the flight lists. We knew who the 19 were within a day of the attack. Also eventually found tons of intel along the way when we took Afghanistan apart. Nothing pointed to CIA and everything pointed to AQ. So I'm not buying it. This was a muslim play. And OBL shorted stocks the day before. He knew. And let's not forget Occam's Razor. The AQ theory is the simplest. Some sort of CIA conspiracy is beyond complex. I get that conspiracies happen - Tonkin is an example. But this? Nah - not buying it whatsoever.

 

[holdover]

I know loons that say the planes were spotted at the airport in Cleveland the next day. Lunacy. ( I never said any such thing .) I cannot speak to the flight orders of the day filed with each ATC at each base. Who knows.

Not flight orders guy, Mission statements . It has nothing to do with flight orders . It defines the units overall purpose , many times Units Mission statements hang on wall In HQ Unit, It reminds them of the purpose for which they are serving. It something that is constant or static . Like the secret service mission statement might be protection of the president,The sole purpose of 3 those particular wings were the defense of the sky over Washington DC , This is something they would train on daily . Three wings of aircraft all completely failed to get one fighter in the sky to defend DC when it is sole purpose for being after 2 hours of warning .

But planes took out those buildings plain and simple. (some people are not so sure) Not sure what you mean about the hijackers not being on the flight lists

I mean none of their names were on the flight lists , ie: where were they? the flight lists do NOT have their names on their manifests

. We knew who the 19 were within a day of the attack. (We knew Osama bin Laden did before the towers fell )

Also eventually found tons of intel along the way when we took Afghanistan apart. Nothing pointed to CIA and everything pointed to AQ.

You really think they would tell on themselves if they were involved? Didn't you learn anything in the last eight ten weeks?


So I'm not buying it.
im not selling it.
This was a muslim play.
They were patsies
And OBL shorted stocks the day before.
LOL no he didn't they never found out who placed the put options on American airlines

He knew. And let's not forget Occam's Razor. The AQ theory is the simplest. Some sort of CIA conspiracy is beyond complex. I get that conspiracies happen - Tonkin is an example. But this? Nah - not buying it whatsoever.

You have a right to believe what you want but its based on nonsense

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

First off your argument that many people would have to keep their mouth shut would be easily solved if most/many of them were unknowingly on the planes that flew into the buildings. Most of the planes had government workers of some type. Any demolition work , if there was done would have been obviously outsourced to foreign agents .
Some may have not even have known the nature of their work. they may have been told that it was for future demo work , and that due to the nature of work, it had to be kept quiet for obvious reasons . Then when their work was done they were given a flight home courtesy of American airlines flight 11 to New York , Just one possibility

But the actual FACTS of 911 are disturbing, there are 3 Air wings TASKED with the protection of the skys above DC . which was on their mission statement before it was taken down. Not one fucking pilot left the ground even though NORAD was alerted at 845 of the hijackings almost two hours went by and nobody defended Washington DC , they could have Taxied a DAM FIGHTER FROM ANDREWS AFB!! Not one plane from Langly VA Not one plane went up over Philly or Baltimore even though the NORAD and the military KNEW we under attack , and did not know How many planes there were . They all sat on the tarmac waiting for impact. They failed on a massive level and NOBODY lost their job.

None of the Hijackers names were on any of the flight manifestos

Nobody in the Airforce followed protocols even though it is practiced on a daily basis

I can't remember what channel it was on but either like military or discovery. On the most recent anniversary of 9/11 they had a documentary on the events as they happened and the military/civilian response. It was a giant cluster-F. The 2 groups(NEADS military, North East air defense sector) (and civilian faa)were not communicating as they should have. NEADS and the FAA were not properly coordinating. They didn't even have a dedicated phone hotline between each other.

We were caught so off guard that civilian airliners could be used as weapons. It wasn't something ever considered. It caused many miscommunication and wrong asssumptions.

F-15 Fighters from Langley were scrambled. No one told them the threat before launch and they followed their pre planned area of responsility patrol over the ocean. They went the wrong way because of so many mis communications.

We had other f-16s scrambled, UNARMED. Their mission was to literally kamikaze themselves into what later turned out to be flight 93, which crashed before the f16s tracked it down.

It was a cluster-F to say the least. Not conspiracy.


As far as the manifests that doesn't mean much. Before 9/11 you could basically buy a ticket last minute in cash and walk on a plane. No ID needed. Times were different. Planes regularly flew at like 70% capacity as well.

 

[holdover]

""It was a cluster-F to say the least. Not conspiracy""

It was much more than a simple cluster F. 3 fighter wings at Andrews don't stay on the ground when the country is under attack . NORAD knew we we were under attack Protocols that are in place were ignored Hell, every swinging dick in the country knew we were under attack and the men whos job it was to protect the skys over the president and the pentagon in case of an attack stood on the ground for two hours until the last plane hit the pentagon and You think that was just a big mistake?? by 3 entire wings who train for that event every day?

if that's not evidence of a conspiracy I don't what is , these men are professional fighter pilots of the highest caliber , You think they were just sleeping on the couch?

""F-15 Fighters from Langley were scrambled. No one told them the threat before launch and they followed their pre planned area of responsility patrol over the ocean. ''

so they were the only dammed pilots that did their job? where was everybody else? sleeping? Where were the fighters from Andrews ? the ones that were 5 minute drive from the white house?

sounds like your information is coming directly from CNN.

Personally I forgot much about what I knew about 911 , and I really don't want to spend hours researching evidence of massive cover up . Nobody is going to read it but one or two guys and nobody is going to give a shit anyway. Im just not up to fight . to much time to waste . 99% of the guys on here think Im nuts anyway , Ill just leave it at that.

 

[GOPerfect]

I went through the 911 thing years back, I am with you Holdover, no one wants to hear it and less want to learn some basic truths.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

""It was a cluster-F to say the least. Not conspiracy""

It was much more than a simple cluster F. 3 fighter wings at Andrews don't stay on the ground when the country is under attack . NORAD knew we we were under attack Protocols that are in place were ignored Hell, every swinging dick in the country knew we were under attack and the men whos job it was to protect the skys over the president and the pentagon in case of an attack stood on the ground for two hours until the last plane hit the pentagon and You think that was just a big mistake?? by 3 entire wings who train for that event every day?

if that's not evidence of a conspiracy I don't what is , these men are professional fighter pilots of the highest caliber , You think they were just sleeping on the couch?

""F-15 Fighters from Langley were scrambled. No one told them the threat before launch and they followed their pre planned area of responsility patrol over the ocean. ''

so they were the only dammed pilots that did their job? where was everybody else? sleeping? Where were the fighters from Andrews ? the ones that were 5 minute drive from the white house?

sounds like your information is coming directly from CNN.

Personally I forgot much about what I knew about 911 , and I really don't want to spend hours researching evidence of massive cover up . Nobody is going to read it but one or two guys and nobody is going to give a shit anyway. Im just not up to fight . to much time to waste . 99% of the guys on here think Im nuts anyway , Ill just leave it at that.

I'm all for truth. I really am. I am regularly teased about being a tin foil hat conspiracy whacko here.

But in my opinion, this is not a conspiracy.

Typically only a few fighter aircraft are actually on armed alert status at a few bases on the coasts. Typically they are air national guard fighter wings. Usually they keep 3 armed and loaded fighters (1 is a spare in case of mechanical) on alert status with pilots on duty waiting in a crew ready room. Typically there probably aren't more than 12 fueled and armed and crewed fighters on alert waiting to defend our whole country during normal peacetime.

All the other hundreds of CONUS fighters are tasked for training purposes, maintenance or lack of crew on duty. Obviously with hours notice recall orders can be issued and more aircraft made ready and dispatched for combat.

 

[spat]

I would find conspiracy theories far less believable if there weren't so many that have been proven to come out.

Gooble MKULTRA if you don't think our government can do some serious shady shit and keep it under wraps for decades. Literally dozens of examples of stuff like that.

OTOH, lots of stuff that seems like it might be evidence of some massive conspiracy, is really just the emergent properties of dozens of narcissistic megalomaniacs trying to individually gain power.

35 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True - StephCurry

 

[Catskillkid]

Our species was always groups of haves and have-nots. From the days of who got the coolest cave and who stood outside the cave and got eaten by a sabertooth tiger; that's been how survival of the fittest works. The rich people get to control the poor people. The strong get to control the weak. My family had to escape Russian Pogroms (mother's side) and escape the Warsaw Ghetto (father's side) to get to this country; and Jews have always been on the losing end of the have/have-not scales. If a have-not like me thinks my little shitstain vote in Little Falls will do jack shit to change the course of history or better my lot in life, I would be kidding myself. Yeah maybe it's entertaining to debate how criminal Killery is, or how window-licker stupid Trump is; but in the big scheme of things he is worth billions and she is worth a half billion and neither gives a flying fuck about either of us. We're just statistics; and not important ones either. So in that regard maybe you could say there is some quiet back-room group pulling strings. But that's by design and honestly I don't think Karl Marx's view of a better world would benefit us much either. I'd still have to work, Kim Kardashian would still be too hot to fuck someone like me, and my car would still break down if I didn't change the oil. My life isn't gonna be changed by any of these people.

So you're saying that the international Jewish conspiracy isn't real?

 

[GOPerfect]

I would find conspiracy theories far less believable if there weren't so many that have been proven to come out.

Gooble MKULTRA if you don't think our government can do some serious shady shit and keep it under wraps for decades. Literally dozens of examples of stuff like that.

OTOH, lots of stuff that seems like it might be evidence of some massive conspiracy, is really just the emergent properties of dozens of narcissistic megalomaniacs trying to individually gain power.

35 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True - StephCurry

It is actually kin of funny that you posted this link.

There are many Americans who still don't believe some of them. The media still fights for the Dems and the IRS.

Some of these theories have been PROVEN and still people disbelieve.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Back to ww3....


'World War III is inevitable'

Even Turkey is getting worried

 

[Foxtrapper]

Well, wow... Where to start...MAD doesn't really even enter into this conversation, as most nuclear armed countries have changed policies to a first strike basis. Anti missile shields also enter into this. If you bother to look at areas where NATO has set up these defense systems, you will see why Russia could very well do a first strike.

As far as a shadow government goes, have ya'll heard of Agenda 21, updated to Agenda 2030? It calls for the depopulation of 6.5 billion, yes with a B, people. Why do you not think this is the plan? I know, it all sounds so surreal, not a possibility, but this is the plan, and they have made no effort to hide it. So, what benefit would a nuclear war have for this agenda? If one was to sit down and think about it briefly, one would realize that in order for this agenda to happen, the US's 2nd Amendment would have to disappear, and we all know how that's gonna work for them...right? Do I think a nuclear war is gonna happen? Not really sure about that. What I will say is that in 5 years of Nazi rule, Hitler only managed to kill about 12 million Jews. That was using state of the art technogly of that time period.. 6.5 Billion people, well that's a lot of people, and those metheods aren't going to work fast enough.

These NWO types know that US citizens are not going to go along with their agenda willingly. I also believe that Russia and China are also not going to go along with this. In order for them to succeed, they need to take all of those players out, and a nuclear war would do some of the work for them. It's really pretty straight forward, the US has to fall in order for this NWO to rise to power, and the people who want this to happen are very rich and powerful, so, I guess the question is really this, are we going to let them control us?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Well, wow... Where to start...MAD doesn't really even enter into this conversation, as most nuclear armed countries have changed policies to a first strike basis. Anti missile shields also enter into this. If you bother to look at areas where NATO has set up these defense systems, you will see why Russia could very well do a first strike.

As far as a shadow government goes, have ya'll heard of Agenda 21, updated to Agenda 2030? It calls for the depopulation of 6.5 billion, yes with a B, people. Why do you not think this is the plan? I know, it all sounds so surreal, not a possibility, but this is the plan, and they have made no effort to hide it. So, what benefit would a nuclear war have for this agenda? If one was to sit down and think about it briefly, one would realize that in order for this agenda to happen, the US's 2nd Amendment would have to disappear, and we all know how that's gonna work for them...right? Do I think a nuclear war is gonna happen? Not really sure about that. What I will say is that in 5 years of Nazi rule, Hitler only managed to kill about 12 million Jews. That was using state of the art technogly of that time period.. 6.5 Billion people, well that's a lot of people, and those metheods aren't going to work fast enough.

These NWO types know that US citizens are not going to go along with their agenda willingly. I also believe that Russia and China are also not going to go along with this. In order for them to succeed, they need to take all of those players out, and a nuclear war would do some of the work for them. It's really pretty straight forward, the US has to fall in order for this NWO to rise to power, and the people who want this to happen are very rich and powerful, so, I guess the question is really this, are we going to let them control us?

And why would a CIA backed consulting group / think tank predict our population would shrink by the year 2025 by around 260......million???? Our population is predicted to around 60million. And that our GDP and military budget would be borderline 3rd world?

Interesting and ominous to say the least.

List of Countries Forecast 2025

 

[Snappo]

So you're saying that the international Jewish conspiracy isn't real?

If it's real, they need to send me a few mill so I can fuck around 24x7 and not be on call for work.

 

[Snappo]

As far as a shadow government goes, have ya'll heard of Agenda 21, updated to Agenda 2030? It calls for the depopulation of 6.5 billion, yes with a B, people. Why do you not think this is the plan? I know, it all sounds so surreal, not a possibility, but this is the plan, and they have made no effort to hide it. So, what benefit would a nuclear war have for this agenda? If one was to sit down and think about it briefly, one would realize that in order for this agenda to happen, the US's 2nd Amendment would have to disappear, and we all know how that's gonna work for them...right? Do I think a nuclear war is gonna happen? Not really sure about that. What I will say is that in 5 years of Nazi rule, Hitler only managed to kill about 12 million Jews. That was using state of the art technogly of that time period.. 6.5 Billion people, well that's a lot of people, and those metheods aren't going to work fast enough.

That's not a conspiracy. A planet has something called a "carrying capacity". The 8 billion on this planet needs to get down to 2 billion for the planet to have fully renewable resources with zero catastrophic impact on the planetary ecosystem. It will happen on it's own - doesn't need a secret cabal. Starvation, disease, natural disaster, economy, etc. It will drive down the size of the human population. Many scientists feel 2 billion is the carrying capacity. Seems legit to me. Stop sending aid to other countries, stop immigration, and let these other countries settle into more natural / sustainable population sizes.

 

[Snappo]

Even Turkey is getting worried

Fuck the middle east. That shithole could turn to a wasteland and I would lose zero sleep. When someone tells me Israel is the promised land, I say fuck no - its USA. If you want to live come here. If you are too fucking stupid to come here; stay in Israel and let the diaperheads melt your ass once they figure out how. And trust me - Iran is just around the corner on that. It's their engineers and scientists at those North Korea detonations. They are one step away at this point from getting it right. They just didn't have the 120,000 employees USA had to throw at the Manhattan Project. But they are close - oh so close. My brother is in Tel Aviv - absolutely refuses to come back to USA. These people are so friggin stupid. And Israel is thinking of doing away with their nuclear weapons? Are you fucking kidding me? That's like the Jews disarming when Hitler got into power. Morons.

 

[ProgSpear]

I can't remember what channel it was on but either like military or discovery. On the most recent anniversary of 9/11 they had a documentary on the events as they happened and the military/civilian response. It was a giant cluster-F. The 2 groups(NEADS military, North East air defense sector) (and civilian faa)were not communicating as they should have. NEADS and the FAA were not properly coordinating. They didn't even have a dedicated phone hotline between each other.

We were caught so off guard that civilian airliners could be used as weapons. It wasn't something ever considered. It caused many miscommunication and wrong asssumptions.

F-15 Fighters from Langley were scrambled. No one told them the threat before launch and they followed their pre planned area of responsility patrol over the ocean. They went the wrong way because of so many mis communications.

We had other f-16s scrambled, UNARMED. Their mission was to literally kamikaze themselves into what later turned out to be flight 93, which crashed before the f16s tracked it down.

It was a cluster-F to say the least. Not conspiracy.


As far as the manifests that doesn't mean much. Before 9/11 you could basically buy a ticket last minute in cash and walk on a plane. No ID needed. Times were different. Planes regularly flew at like 70% capacity as well.

Not true. Tom Clancy envisioned it in 1994, in "Debt of Honor".

 

[Catskillkid]

Not true. Tom Clancy envisioned it in 1994, in "Debt of Honor".

Also predicted (and depicted) in an episode of the Lone Gunmen (an X-Files spinoff show).

 

[DavidJ]

In the cold war we almost launch all our nukes due to a Malfunction causing a drill and looking like we had 100's of incoming nukes. In this day it wont take a battle of Whos the bigger man, A virus or computer malfunction will ruin us. You think who ever is in charge is gonna go.... Ahh its probably a glitch lets wait and see if we are still here 45 minutes from now and if so we can fire back.

If there was a war to break out it would not be D-day and invading beaches. You would see Power grids going down, Communications disrupted, markets disrupted. Most governments are smart enough to realize that they gain nothing by firing off nukes unless its 1-2 at strategic locations.

 

[Blimey]

If one was to listen to Alex Jones

Let me just stop you right there.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Let me just stop you right there.

In my opinion....I used to think he was a nut, now I think he's more right than he is wrong. Look at some of the things coming out in wikileaks

 

[Automan21]

Fuck it. I say push the button. This nation is going to hell anyway might as well clean house and let the earth start over.

 

[Foxtrapper]

That's not a conspiracy. A planet has something called a "carrying capacity". The 8 billion on this planet needs to get down to 2 billion for the planet to have fully renewable resources with zero catastrophic impact on the planetary ecosystem. It will happen on it's own - doesn't need a secret cabal. Starvation, disease, natural disaster, economy, etc. It will drive down the size of the human population. Many scientists feel 2 billion is the carrying capacity. Seems legit to me. Stop sending aid to other countries, stop immigration, and let these other countries settle into more natural / sustainable population sizes.

For someone who seems to have an answer for everything, you seem to miss the big picture. It's not what you or I think, in fact our opinions don't even enter into it. It is what the people who have the money want. And to say that there is no NWO effort going on, is well, misgludied to say the least. As far as carrying capacity, I don't believe anyone has a firm grasp of the numbers this planet can carry. If we currently have 8 billion people living on it, well, I guess the carrying capacity is at least that many. I know, these people only live because we supply them with aid. But we have the aid to send them, so I guess you could call it reallocation of resources, which happens all the time and has through out history. Carrying capacity is only reached when all resources have been allocated.

Let me just stop you right there.

I am not a big Alex Jones fan, but, he does put the info that is out there into a compreshive package that one can understand. And, lately, he's been more right than wrong...

 

[Snappo]

For someone who seems to have an answer for everything, you seem to miss the big picture. It's not what you or I think, in fact our opinions don't even enter into it. It is what the people who have the money want. And to say that there is no NWO effort going on, is well, misgludied to say the least. As far as carrying capacity, I don't believe anyone has a firm grasp of the numbers this planet can carry. If we currently have 8 billion people living on it, well, I guess the carrying capacity is at least that many. I know, these people only live because we supply them with aid. But we have the aid to send them, so I guess you could call it reallocation of resources, which happens all the time and has through out history. Carrying capacity is only reached when all resources have been allocated.



I am not a big Alex Jones fan, but, he does put the info that is out there into a compreshive package that one can understand. And, lately, he's been more right than wrong...

Learn what carrying capacity means and then fix your retarded post.

 

[Foxtrapper]

Learn what carrying capacity means and then fix your retarded post.

"the number of people, other living organisms, or crops that a region can support without environmental degradation."

Hmm, retarded? Bet you're a Hillary supporter aren't you...

 

[Robin]

Well, if they start lobbing H bombs, I will not participate.
Robin

 

[Snappo]

"the number of people, other living organisms, or crops that a region can support without environmental degradation."

Hmm, retarded? Bet you're a Hillary supporter aren't you...

Exactly, genius. No degradation of resources. The environment is degrading. You should have stayed in school.