Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Fuck EVERY individual responsible for the UnSafe Act. I wish them NOTHING but pain and suffering.
NY veteran facing 21 years for having standard Glock magazines
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Fuck EVERY individual responsible for the UnSafe Act. I wish them NOTHING but pain and suffering.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
and the pick and choose scumbags DA that slap the wrist of a career piece of trash dirt bag criminal over a law abiding citizens let alone a Vet 
thegatman
.308 Win
Pathetic
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Those holier than thou, self righteous, pompous, arrogant, mofo legislators need to be subject to the same laws and restrictions they inflict on the subservient class.
FUAC
FUAC
STS556
.223 Rem
FU to all you scumbag democrat NY politicians.
Burzum
.223 Rem
AND do not forget the RINOs that sold us out in the NY Senate, yes the Dems push this rubbish but the GOP was supposed to be our firewall b/c God knows they do not care enough to take the offensive on gun rights.
The cold civil war is on, every gun bigot ought to be shipped to ISIS-controlled regions.
Absolutely disgusting.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Contribute to Simeon's legal fund- https://www.fundedjustice.com/b1ElG7?...
From what I remember reading about this 10 round mag law They claimed at the time the mag was not part of the gun so it could be restricted. Now in this case they claim it is a weapon in itself . ???
From what I remember reading about this 10 round mag law They claimed at the time the mag was not part of the gun so it could be restricted. Now in this case they claim it is a weapon in itself . ???
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Political prisoner!!!! FUAC and all who voted for it, and Skelos for not stopping it when he had the power to do so, sell out POS!
Robin
Robin
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The 2nd circuit is now reviewing the conviction. Skelos and Silver are still walking free until the appeal is heard.
FUDS
FUSS
FUAC
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Minorities have mass protests...we say "sad"...."not right"
Bozo
.45 acp
You know, I wondered if this were THE case, the one that we NYers would finally rally behind. Seemed like a good fit - veteran with no criminal history, acquitted on the original charge that led to the arrest and search, defendant takes the stand and asserts a 2nd amendment defense.
So, I came here and searched to see if there were other threads on this case. There are a few, but THIS one stood out. After reading the 7 pages of that crap, it was finally clear to me. There is no "we" in terms of 2nd amendment support in NY. No "we" here. A popular member here could be arrested on similar charges and the usual whining, backstabbing and excuses would be posted on the forums. A few words of support perhaps, and of course lots of bitching about Cuomo and the rest of the NY politicians.
Let's be clear:
If "we" truly want to make a difference, our only hope is if ALL of us work together. It is the only way.
So, I came here and searched to see if there were other threads on this case. There are a few, but THIS one stood out. After reading the 7 pages of that crap, it was finally clear to me. There is no "we" in terms of 2nd amendment support in NY. No "we" here. A popular member here could be arrested on similar charges and the usual whining, backstabbing and excuses would be posted on the forums. A few words of support perhaps, and of course lots of bitching about Cuomo and the rest of the NY politicians.
Let's be clear:
- Simeon is going to prison. He was convicted of 3 felonies and his own comments on the legal aid fund page will be used against him at sentencing. If the conviction stands there will be more - a lot more.
- A conviction is generally required in order to challenge the constitutionality of a law. Here we have one, and one where the defendant was not convicted of any other charge. He appears to be an otherwise law abiding citizen, and has a compelling back story. Most importantly, Simeon seems to be dedicated to the cause, and willing to fight through the appeals process. Without some support, that will likely be beaten out of him soon enough.
- There is no need for anyone else to "go out and get arrested" themselves in order to prove their dedication to the cause, as suggested in that other thread. No need for anyone else to risk their livelihood or make sure they "come home to the family" tonight.
If "we" truly want to make a difference, our only hope is if ALL of us work together. It is the only way.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
First of all before I get flamed, I am former LE but it is what it is.
This average citizen without a Criminal Record probably had no fear of Police other than glancing at his speedometer when he saw one..
He probably thought "Policemen are our friends".
Any of you who think that the cops and troopers aren't going to enforce NY FE Act, you are delusional.
Ef the Jury too.
This average citizen without a Criminal Record probably had no fear of Police other than glancing at his speedometer when he saw one..
He probably thought "Policemen are our friends".
Any of you who think that the cops and troopers aren't going to enforce NY FE Act, you are delusional.
Ef the Jury too.
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Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
it doesn't cost much to gather and rally for a cause in every city with the members in that particular city/town.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
$100 on its way.
Used to be a lot of talk about jury nullification on the other site, guess that ain't happening!
FUAC!
If you are an AmVet or VFW you must let your members know of this!
Cuomo is sending veterans to prison in order to become president!!
Used to be a lot of talk about jury nullification on the other site, guess that ain't happening!
FUAC!
If you are an AmVet or VFW you must let your members know of this!
Cuomo is sending veterans to prison in order to become president!!
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SigSweet
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FUAC
So I watched the video and if I heard right, his "crime" was having magazines in his car that held 10 rounds or more.
I read this:
http://nypdcea.org/pdfs/NYSP_Safe_Act_Field_Guide.pdf
and it is clear that the police overstepped their authority as this was ignored:
"Unless there is probable cause to believe the law is being violated, there is no justification for checking a magazine to determine whether or not it contains more than 7 rounds."
Either this guy is an idiot or his attorney was. Talking about the 2nd amendment just marks you as a "gun nut". Of course you NEVER take the stand either.
The SAFE act is quite clear on magazines. He ignored that at his peril.
It's unclear how many rounds the mags could hold, were they loaded, when were they made and why the police even had cause to examine them.
Yes the law is stupid but it is the law.
I have lots of hi cap mags BUT were I to relocate to NY, they would stay in my free state second home in FL.
My 1911 can deal with a bad guy with 7 rounds, my 10 round Wilsons would not come to NY ! My threaded bbl and can would also stay behind.
LOOKS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME !
SAFE ACT :
Magazines
Q: How has the law changed for magazines?
A: Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines.
Q: What can I do with a ten round magazine that I buy before April 15, 2013?
A: You can keep it. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting in seven rounds, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition recognized by the National Rifle Association or International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association, in which case the limit is ten.
Q: Do I have to modify the ten round magazine that I buy before April 15, 2013?
A: No.
I read this:
http://nypdcea.org/pdfs/NYSP_Safe_Act_Field_Guide.pdf
and it is clear that the police overstepped their authority as this was ignored:
"Unless there is probable cause to believe the law is being violated, there is no justification for checking a magazine to determine whether or not it contains more than 7 rounds."
Either this guy is an idiot or his attorney was. Talking about the 2nd amendment just marks you as a "gun nut". Of course you NEVER take the stand either.
The SAFE act is quite clear on magazines. He ignored that at his peril.
It's unclear how many rounds the mags could hold, were they loaded, when were they made and why the police even had cause to examine them.
Yes the law is stupid but it is the law.
I have lots of hi cap mags BUT were I to relocate to NY, they would stay in my free state second home in FL.
My 1911 can deal with a bad guy with 7 rounds, my 10 round Wilsons would not come to NY ! My threaded bbl and can would also stay behind.
LOOKS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME !
SAFE ACT :
Magazines
Q: How has the law changed for magazines?
A: Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines.
Q: What can I do with a ten round magazine that I buy before April 15, 2013?
A: You can keep it. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting in seven rounds, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition recognized by the National Rifle Association or International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association, in which case the limit is ten.
Q: Do I have to modify the ten round magazine that I buy before April 15, 2013?
A: No.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
I follow the Judge that struck down the "7" rule and load 10 in 10. Comments encouraged
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The law is 10 and not 7 like Mr. Terzmo has said. Let's not derail this thread. There are numerous threads on the subject with actual written proof that show that a Federal Judge struck it from the law.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
His lawyer must have been a divorce lawyer. How can they get away with illegally searching his car?
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
The best part is he has a funding page and doesn't even have 4k yet.
Way to buck up for this poor guy and family. Words are not enough today. He is facing 21 years for a small plastic box. They look for every excuse to let real criminals back on the street with numerous offenses, this poor guy is probably a target shooter,what a joke.. if he lived in 44 other states,this would be business as usual. Not here I guess..He is licensed too it says, should just be an administrative code violation imo,but I'm sure they will do all they can to ruin his life over something so stupid. Say a prayer that SCOTUS picks this one up to restore some sanity. if ever they need a good starting point, this appears to be it.
Way to buck up for this poor guy and family. Words are not enough today. He is facing 21 years for a small plastic box. They look for every excuse to let real criminals back on the street with numerous offenses, this poor guy is probably a target shooter,what a joke.. if he lived in 44 other states,this would be business as usual. Not here I guess..He is licensed too it says, should just be an administrative code violation imo,but I'm sure they will do all they can to ruin his life over something so stupid. Say a prayer that SCOTUS picks this one up to restore some sanity. if ever they need a good starting point, this appears to be it.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
And how much have donated may I ask?
Chipperxd
.40 S&W
He was pulled over for suspicion of DUI/DWI. He refused the field sobriety test and allegedly asked the officers to turn on their body cams.
He was put under arrest for DUI and his car was impounded, which let the police to search the car for inventory and found the mags.He was acquitted of the charges for DUI but was convicted for the magazines. Which is why people are saying the arrest was BS to begin with.
At least that's what I get from all the articles and vids that have been posted.
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nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Mags were 17 rounders.
So, he was a drunk dumb shit with illegal magazines ?
"don't do the crime if you can't do the time."
1. don't piss off cops.
2. don't drink and drive.
3. don't have SPECIFICALLY banned magazines
Gump has this guy identified !
I'm a vet of the "war we chose to lose" but have no illusions that I can break the law because I have a DD 214.
No sympathy from this old fart.
"don't do the crime if you can't do the time."
1. don't piss off cops.
2. don't drink and drive.
3. don't have SPECIFICALLY banned magazines
Gump has this guy identified !
I'm a vet of the "war we chose to lose" but have no illusions that I can break the law because I have a DD 214.
No sympathy from this old fart.
Chipperxd
.40 S&W
I don't think any one is saying what he did was right.
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