NYC Rifle/Shotgun Question
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MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Loose lips sink ships. 
Exactly, especially if your in a sub lol.Loose lips sink ships.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Now you do sound paranoid. Let me ask you a question, but I'll do it after I buy the gun??
Uzi
.308 Win
You need a permit in NYC for shotguns and rifles?
I’m gonna buy it regardless but the question is not about the purchase part. Those in the city know what I mean.
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
New Yorkistan doesn't recognize the 2nd amendment.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
I lived in the city for 60 years and I have no idea what you mean,just ask the damn question
How is that legal?
Ok since you have been here in the city 5 boroughs for so long. You know all long guns purchased must be registered. Has everyone one registered theirs? If not, will nyc still know if you purchased one?
What I’m getting at is. A person buys a long gun, in the city and doesn’t send in regi form will 1pp know. There guys jeez, so much for secrecy lol.
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
They won't know.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
I would think if you buy it in the city,you have to show your permit so theres a good chance they can find out.Its been over 30 yrs since I dealt with a permit in NYC,so not sure what it involves these days.I think you'd do better to buy outside NYC if you plan on not registering it.
If you buy it IN the city, the store will fill out the paperwork and send it in. Outside the city it is on you and NO the city will have no clue.
I know plenty of people with pistol permits but no long gun permit. It’s stupid and only enforceable within the city anyway.
I know plenty of people with pistol permits but no long gun permit. It’s stupid and only enforceable within the city anyway.
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
it's up to you to send paper wk in to city. Allowed 1 rifle every 90 days. Only can have 5 rd limit on ammo ,so no,you can't put a lever action marlin 35 Remington on your licence unless it's capped at 5 max. You are allowed to have an unregistered rifle in city with 72HR grace period as far as I know.
Karpteach
6.5 Creedmoor
There’s a good chance they will. The FFL in the city has to declare all sales and transfers to PD (or so I’m told). Be very very careful in the city. When I moved to Nassau and brought over my shotguns and rifles the city wanted a sworn affidavit to the move. Most guys would have told NYC to fug off since I work for the city, I couldn’t.
M_F
.45 acp
I can't confirm if this actually happened but apparently during the Bloomberg regime NYPD, and the NYSP was paying visits to gun stores in Nassau and Suffolk County to take a peek at 4473 forms "looking" for NYC addresses, apparently king Bloomberg had subpoenaed them to find City residents that were purchasing long guns without a city rifle/shotgun permit. If this was true, I doubt it is still being implemented the city shouldn't give a damn about what legal products you purchase outside the gulag.
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/new-york/125657-nypd-pop-checks.html
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/new-york/125657-nypd-pop-checks.html
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
If you buy a gun in city, they will only sell it yo you with a NYC permit. If you buy in long Island then all you need is a driver's license. I
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It isn't required for you to register it with the city as long as it never gets there. Suppose you have property upstate or in PA and want to keep it there for hunting or home protection? You could leave it at a friend's hunting cabin too. They're is no need to be paranoid. You aren't breaking any laws as long as it never makes it to the city.
Karpteach
6.5 Creedmoor
No not really. If they see you live in NYC they will not sell you a rifle without the NYC permit ( when I lived in the city it was a green paper one). I have a friend that lives in the city that has this problem all the time.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It depends on the FFL. Some will, some won't. It isn't illegal but some don't for liability purposes.
Karpteach
6.5 Creedmoor
The best way to circumvent NYC laws, is to get out. DiBlassio has increased the rifle shotgun unit and pistol permit unit. What a hell hole.
Definitely moving in the next 3-4 yrs.
What do you mean increased?
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Just to dispel a common misconception, non-NYC FFLs can get in trouble for selling a gun to a NYC resident even though the FFL is located outside of the city.
All FFLs are by statute presumed to be on notice of all local laws when selling a firearm to a customer and cannot violate them in connection with a sale. In other words, if a NYC resident attempts to purchase a rifle or shotgun outside of the 5 boroughs, the local dealer is breaking Federal law -- in a serious way -- unless that FFL satisfies himself that the sale is compliant. Thus a responsible FFL will either not sell to a NYC resident without the permit, or, alternatively, require proof that the gun will not be taken into NYC such as a signed statement to that effect.
The law in question is 18 USC 922(b)(2) and is the reason ATF sends the "green book" of all local laws to FFLs.
All FFLs are by statute presumed to be on notice of all local laws when selling a firearm to a customer and cannot violate them in connection with a sale. In other words, if a NYC resident attempts to purchase a rifle or shotgun outside of the 5 boroughs, the local dealer is breaking Federal law -- in a serious way -- unless that FFL satisfies himself that the sale is compliant. Thus a responsible FFL will either not sell to a NYC resident without the permit, or, alternatively, require proof that the gun will not be taken into NYC such as a signed statement to that effect.
The law in question is 18 USC 922(b)(2) and is the reason ATF sends the "green book" of all local laws to FFLs.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That isn't true at all. Can you point to the pertinent language that says that in 18 USC 922(b)(2)?
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Last time I bought a long gun was about 5 yrs ago.I was still living in NYC and purchased the shotgun up in Dutchess county.No city permit,no problem,just drivers license with a NYC address.Dont know if things have changed since then.Since Airborne guy is still active NYPD,I would go with his reply.
M_F
.45 acp
I think that it will be based on the discretion of the FFL and if they get a lot of city residents buying firearms, when I purchased my Mossberg shockwave in Nassau County one of the first things the clerk asked was what county my address was in, I'm guessing he would have asked further questions or asked for a permit if I had a city address on my driver's license.