NYC, We Don't Want Your Crap

[Madmallard]

Butler is a little town on the east side of Wayne County, New York, home to something less than 2,000 people, in one of the poorest regions in America.
It has no money, and it has no power.
Its Republican assemblyman and senator have no voice in the Democrat-controlled state legislature, and its conservative politics have no representation in the Democrats who sit in the federal Senate. So broken is local belief in the political process that fewer than 150 voters come out for the average election.
Like most of upstate New York, it’s a backwater being slowly strangled by outside powers and forces it can’t understand or fight.

Which gets us to New York City’s shit.
A scheme is in the offing to truck municipal sewage from New York City to an old quarry in Butler and let it rot. The toilet flushings of Gotham will be dumped on the fields of Butler.

Human feces. The most loathsome and revolting of substances. That’s what you get when you’re a nobody.

The Democratic presidential candidates pontificate about environmental justice, while the progressive capital of the nation practices environmental injustice as a right. We are strong and you are weak, the big city says, and you will take our waste.

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Butler is a little town on the east side of Wayne County, New York, home to something less than 2,000 people, in one of the poorest regions in America.

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[Bananabandit]

But you cant vote for us if you dont rely on us.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is sad and heartbreaking

 

[S&W Fan]

Riccelli Bros. trucking company own the property that the sewage will be transported to and it just so happens that there is a deal in the works for them to be the main source for transportation of the sewage. This , according to the interviewee on Lonsberry’s show yesterday.

 

[Defilade]

Load up the crap on a manure spreader and drive it down times square spreading crap everywhere, make sure the Tractor has a sign on it that states a farmer did this.

 

[ProgSpear]

"The name on the proposal is Tully Environmental, a cabal out of Flushing, New York. But the crap pit itself, the property involved, is owned by something called Syracuse Sand and Gravel. And Syracuse Sand and Gravel is owned by Riccelli Enterprises, which is owned by Central New York businessmen Joseph and Richard Riccelli. They are the kings of trash trucking. It seems a fair number of their 400 trucks are employed bringing New York City garage to upstate landfills. "

It's ironic that the cabal is based in Flushing, NY, however the local parasites need to be exposed far and wide.

 

[Twogunwilly]

They're all vegetarians and they drink upstate water so it's completely odorless & good for their environment.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Riccelli, huh? I haven't seen them hauling trash under that name for a while. Ever since Santaro got bought out by MBI, anyway. Doesn't surprise me they're out of Flushing, at all. Shell company upon shell company, pretty sure they're all upstanding individuals and this operation is getting lined up completely above board.

 

[togmaster]

What's Cuomo 's cut in this. Has to be a payoff somewhere.

 

[FrankenCub]

Riccelli, huh? I haven't seen them hauling trash under that name for a while. Ever since Santaro got bought out by MBI, anyway. Doesn't surprise me they're out of Flushing, at all. Shell company upon shell company, pretty sure they're all upstanding individuals and this operation is getting lined up completely above board.

And MBI has a habbit of spreading their garbage all over Rt81 and Rt17 in the Binghamton area when they flop the trailers over lol.

 

[Blimey]

In my backyard there is a massive landfill (high acres landfill). They ship NYC's trash to it by the train load. If you drive through eastern fairport around Xmas that pretty string of xmas lights up on a hill--that's not a hill of dirt, but a hill of trash.

 

[spat]

NYC *literally* shitting on upstate.

If that doesn't explain this state nothing does.

 

[S&W Fan]

This really isn’t new. They have been trucking their garbage and other refuse upstate by the truck and train car loads for many years. This is just the newest little upstate town in a long list of many that have been selected for a dump because they have no power and no money to stop it. What’s more, the town Fathers know this, so they are left to bargain the best tax levy deal that they can make in the towns best interest.

 

[STS556]

Butler will soon become the next Love Canal. A poisoned abandoned land.

 

[S&W Fan]

Just curious here. Not that I’m for this in any way but where do people think garbage and sewage from big cities go to? I for one certainly don’t want More of it dumped into the ocean for consumable fish to eat. God only knows how much of that has already been done over the last century.

 

[Grimscale]

where do people think garbage and sewage from big cities go to

Garbage?
Well that does go to landfills. There were supposed to be many environmental laws as to how it was handled to reduce toxic materials, and overall reduce the amount of garbage just dumped into the ground. ie: recycling laws, etc.

Sewage?
Sewage is supposed to be treated to reduce any potential environmental issues. Not just pumped into a truck and dumped in a field somewhere, to pollute the aqua-fir and poison the ground for miles around.


Probably the best thing Butler can do is pass a County-level rule that locally taxes any garbage/sewage dump at as high a rate as possible. They can also block any permit applications submitted for this use of the land.

When it becomes financially untenable to dump there, the Company, and NYC, will have to look elsewhere.

Or, if we REALLY want to have fun, we borrow some National Guard tanks and escort the trucks to Albany, to place this human waste on the doorstep of New York's biggest human waste, Andrew "I'm the Tyrant" Cuomo.

 

[S&W Fan]

Garbage?
Well that does go to landfills. There were supposed to be many environmental laws as to how it was handled to reduce toxic materials, and overall reduce the amount of garbage just dumped into the ground. ie: recycling laws, etc.

Sewage?
Sewage is supposed to be treated to reduce any potential environmental issues. Not just pumped into a truck and dumped in a field somewhere, to pollute the aqua-fir and poison the ground for miles around.


Probably the best thing Butler can do is pass a County-level rule that locally taxes any garbage/sewage dump at as high a rate as possible. They can also block any permit applications submitted for this use of the land.

When it becomes financially untenable to dump there, the Company, and NYC, will have to look elsewhere.

Or, if we REALLY want to have fun, we borrow some National Guard tanks and escort the trucks to Albany, to place this human waste on the doorstep of New York's biggest human waste, Andrew "I'm the Tyrant" Cuomo.

Agreed . However they won’t be just dumping it into a field. Obvious environmental laws prohibit that. The facility proposed for this site is a Huge multi bldg. composted sewage treatment plant. I say huge because from what I can gather their other facilities are run by a handful of employees. This facility proposal claims 10 + employees.

 

[ProgSpear]

Just curious, was Cuomo the HUD secretary at the time the trucking deal was cut, and how many of his friends and donors are getting a cut?

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

In my backyard there is a massive landfill (high acres landfill). They ship NYC's trash to it by the train load. If you drive through eastern fairport around Xmas that pretty string of xmas lights up on a hill--that's not a hill of dirt, but a hill of trash.

Been spending some time around Rochester lately. Seen it. Quite impressive. Looks more like a small mountain than a hill.

Funny how King Cocksucker and his city doesn't need anyone until the shit starts stacking up waste deep. You wanna start sending your shit somewhere upstate, maybe you should start respecting the rights and wishes of the citizens who don"t live in your shithole city.

 

[alistair]

Probably the best thing Butler can do is pass a County-level rule that locally taxes any garbage/sewage dump at as high a rate as possible. They can also block any permit applications submitted for this use of the land.

When it becomes financially untenable to dump there, the Company, and NYC, will have to look elsewhere.

Tax the $hit out of there shit.

Why couldn't the local legislators make it illegal to dump untreated waste in their district?

 

[Acer-m14]

just block the roads and let the shit back up lol

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Defilade]

In my backyard there is a massive landfill (high acres landfill). They ship NYC's trash to it by the train load. If you drive through eastern fairport around Xmas that pretty string of xmas lights up on a hill--that's not a hill of dirt, but a hill of trash.

You should inquire down at the town hall as to the specifics of that contract. I'm sure the residents did not have a say about it, probably some hands getting greased in some form or another.

 

[prambo]

Used to deal with Ricelli trucks hauling rock salt from near Ithaca to, wherever. Worked in Ithaca (yeah, I showered in bleach every night) and drove from home in The 'Cuse from 2002-2009. 110 miles a day 5-6 days a week.

Helped more than a few people that Ricelli drivers ditched on the back roads - fucking lunatics.

 

[Blimey]

You should inquire down at the town hall as to the specifics of that contract. I'm sure the residents did not have a say about it, probably some hands getting greased in some form or another.

Part of the history is that the town of Macedon has received loans from Waste Management, and the town supervisor is (assuming same guy) buddy buddy with them.

 

[MilesTeg]

What I don't get about the whole deal is, how is it not cheaper to build a waste management facility on the island instead. To truck any sort of real volume your talking in the 100 million a year realm. Not only that I'm pretty sure there is federal regulations that don't allow for the open air composting of human waste. You see all of these new pits going in for the farms. These are heavily regulated, so IDK how they will be able to just dump waste in a gravel pit without massive retrofit.

 

[soylentBlue]

Small towns along the route could pad the local coffers a bit. Require expensive permits. Levy fines if trucks pass through during rush hour or after dark, or during lunchtime, or make too much noise, or smell bad.

 

[ProgSpear]

What I don't get about the whole deal is, how is it not cheaper to build a waste management facility on the island instead. To truck any sort of real volume your talking in the 100 million a year realm. Not only that I'm pretty sure there is federal regulations that don't allow for the open air composting of human waste. You see all of these new pits going in for the farms. These are heavily regulated, so IDK how they will be able to just dump waste in a gravel pit without massive retrofit.

exactly! who bought off the EPA and the DEC?

 

[innkeeper]

Here’s a little background on nyc waste water

NYC has 14 treatment plants. 8 of them dewater 6 do not. The city operates 5 tanker vessels that transport treated sewage (sludge) from the 6 that don’t dewater to some of the 8 that do. They also pay the Passaic Valley (NJ) sewage commission a nickel a gallon to dewater some of the sludge. The dewatering process involves centrifuges that separate out the treated solids which used to be sterilized and sold as non food fertilizer. The liquids, known as centrate are supposedly just water with a high nitrate content, and are pumped back into the harbor. The city was paying a daily fine to the EPA for the nitrate levels in the upper bay.

Here is a link to a video done a while back. The vessel in the video was decommissioned and sunk in Fla as a dive destination and other vessels have been put into service.
My pic is that vessel the Newtown Creek sitting in 120 ft of water off Pompano beach Fla

 

[MilesTeg]

Yup they are using ancient treatment technology and its catching up with them. They need to modernize those facilities and expand them. The cost would minuscule compared to the fines and trucking expenses. They just want to put a hello kitty band-aid on a sucking chest wound.