Nys election results suck

[Saltwater60]

and that is why we are in the mess we are in......

But people voted. We had record turn out and it still didn’t matter. Yes Zeldin did well or even great for NYS, but it still wasn’t enough. The polling place I go to was the busiest I have ever seen it. Normally there is zero line and I pull up in and out. There was almost no where to park and people were waiting for others to leave to take their spot, I checked in and every seat was filled with voters voting, and then there was 10 people in front of me waiting to stuff their ballot and this was 2:30-3:00pm. Never happens.

 

[spat]

I have not seen all the area’s that voted for Hochul, but I’m very happy to say that in my area Zeldin received a 3 to 1 vote as did the other Republicans,

You just can’t get away from all the “free“ things crowd.

You can, but it gets very messy.

 

[Saltwater60]

I'm ready to move on from Trump. He was never anything but the lesser of two evils to me.


I think Florida showed us who needs to be front runner bar none.

I will vote for trump if he’s on the ticket, but I will vote for DeSantis in the primary and be happy to vote for him, Trump will get it reluctantly Yrump is poison and needs to go.

 

[Saltwater60]

Not run Trump suck ups?

I'm 99% certain that if the nominee for governor wasn't Zeldin (election denier, pro-Trump, etc.) and they ran a centrist R instead, then Hochul would have lost. Here is the reality: this state has way more democrats than republicans, so for the R's win you need a bunch of democrats to vote across party lines. Look at the results, as-is Zeldin only lost by ~300K votes , which is about 6%. In reality that is a 3% loss as a flipped vote counts "double". That's with Zeldin being who he is by the way... Hochul was *VERY* beatable, yet the R's bungled their nomination. I personally know several Dems that really dislike Hochul, want her gone, and were open to the idea of someone else besides her for gov. Yet, they couldn't get over Zeldin's election denial, etc.

Want to see a R governor in NY? Then pick candidates that can pull cross party votes, not conservative ideologues. That means you might have to compromise on some things. Don't want to make those compromises? Fine, then enjoy Hochul and crew instead. Sometimes it's about damage reduction, not perfection.

I think Zeldinnis fairly moderate but yes this is why I say Republicans are morons, they always shoot themselves in the foot.

 

[Saltwater60]

As said above I too am done. I’ll still vote knowing my vote doesn’t matter. I voted in every race yesterday and one person was elected. Well there was another one but she was a single candidate so I knew that would happen. There is no point in voting. Now the bitch has 4.2 billion more of our tax money to hand out to friends and family to stuff her ear chest to win in 4 years. She will never leave as NYS governor and she will not be voted out. Taxes will continue to rise, crime will rise, gun owners will get increasingly attacked, and illegals and criminals will flock here.
There’s nothing left to fight for except my family. I will have to seriously look at things. My kids are getting older and they both feel as I do. My parents say they will move, my in laws too. We’re all sick of it.

 

[Celt]

When voting, if given the choice to select my candidate on the Repub or Conservative party line I choose conservative. But I noticed yesterday that a number of candidates on the Dem ticket were also on the conservative ticket. How can someone be on both the dem and conservative ticket???

 

[maverick52]

I was watching Fox News and someone made a good point. Ron DeSantis had a blowout in Florida. Alot of those voters are New Yorkers who moved there in the last two years. Some of them could’ve been Zeldin voters. As someone else said- voter migration is real.

 

[RedBreast21]

While I applaud those here in NY that have the stand and fight attitude most of them don't understand or see the big picture of what they are up against. Deniers. Blinders on or they can't see past the nose on there face.

New York is done. Plan your exit. That is your only hope for freedom, lower taxes and less indoctrination in schools. For a short time anyway.

I say that because most of these people are hyper focused on what is going on around us them and we all should be paying more attention to what is going on globally. Its clear that biden and harris are not running things here in America. While we were all focused on mid terms, Saudi Arabia, among many others, is now filing to become a member of BRICS. Talks are scheduled with Putin a Xi in the near future. We all should be concerned about that but no one is more concerned than the globalist leaders, who upon the U.S. being removed as the worlds reserve currency, will lose trillions in wealth. Washington needs yes men to go to war over it. Empires like the United States throughout history make the same mistakes that take them into decline. Like most empires the way out is war. Sooner rather than later. As waiting usually can't be done as the resources aren't there to do it. Once OPEC starts to accept BRICS nations currencies or when BRICS rolls out its currency (Similar to the Euro) the petro dollar is history and so is the U.S. dollar that is pegged to it. With 31 trillion in debt we could become Venezuela over night. That is how serious it is. When it happens, we all will be arguing over, crime, politics, race, genders, pronouns and of course guns. lol All by design. Look at Ukraine as an example of how people can be led into the idea of war with Russia. Putin was to be dead months ago by cancer and of course completely defeated any day now since March. lol

Isis now fighting there and paid for by US! Yes ISIS. lol

Anyway, 40% of all trade in done in U.S. dollars and nearly 100% used for oil. The world is done being manipulated our currency and the globalists that control our puppet government.

Please educate yourselves on BRICS+ and adjust accordingly. Also look at the EEF forum the other group of countries that arent invited to the WEF and read about their meetings this year. You can watch their speeches.



This will shed some light on why our political system mimics one of a third world country.

So the elections result are as planned. Some having hope, others not, but all ensure complete globalist control over you. And of course fighters for WW3 to protect their wealth.

 

[Zerex]

The message was sent to Hochul and 80%, loud and clear; she rules a divided state, where she is hated by 50%, and geographically, all of upstate NY. only the cities went for her, with likley the dead voting, putting her over the edge.. and she now will concentrate on trying to hurt us all.

WE are still out there and funding lawsuits against her. with out here aunt Pelosi to back her up.......she may be like the blind governor yet.......wobbling down the streets with a cane, to ward off the rotten tomatoes.

 

[subsonic]

I think Zeldinnis fairly moderate but yes this is why I say Republicans are morons, they always shoot themselves in the foot.

What? You think Zeldin is "fairly moderate" but Republicans always shoot themselves in the foot by putting forth unelectable candidates who are too conservative (maybe including Zeldin)?

Zeldin may be a 2022 "GOP moderate" but his positions are as always yesterday's fringe left positions. He's way to the left of Obama pre-2012 on same-sex marriage--he just voted for the RFMA to repeal DOMA, codify Obergefell and force states to redefine marriage. He's to the left of last decade's Democrat policy on abortion, vowing to leave alone New York's Moloch-worshiping policies on state-subsidized baby-murder up to and past birth.

The message was sent to Hochul and 80%, loud and clear; she rules a divided state, where she is hated by 50%, and geographically, all of upstate NY. only the cities went for her, with likley the dead voting, putting her over the edge.. and she now will concentrate on trying to hurt us all.

She and Cuomo who put her there both said out loud that they hate us. If you don't side with her on guns, gays, and abortion you have no place in this state and she intends to eradicate us.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

While I applaud those here in NY that have the stand and fight attitude most of them don't understand or see the big picture of what they are up against. Deniers. Blinders on or they can't see past the nose on there face.

New York is done. Plan your exit. That is your only hope for freedom, lower taxes and less indoctrination in schools. For a short time anyway.

I say that because most of these people are hyper focused on what is going on around us and we all should be paying more attention to what is going on globally. Its clear that biden and harris are not running things here in America. While we were all focused on mid terms, Saudi Arabia, among many others, is now filing to become a member of BRICS. Talks are scheduled with Putin a Xi in the near future. We all should be concerned about that but no one is more concerned that the globalist leaders, who upon the U.S. being removed and the worlds reserve currency, will lose trillions in wealth. Washington needs yes men to go to war over it. Empires like the United States throughout history make the same mistakes that take them into decline. Like most empires the way out is war. Sooner rather than later. As waiting usually can't be done as the resources aren't there to do it. Once OPEC starts to accept BRICS nations currencies or when BRICS rolls out its currency (Similar to the Euro) the petro dollar is history and so is the U.S. dollar that is pegged to it. With 31 trillion in debt we could become Venezuela over night. That is how serious it is. When it happens, we all will be arguing over, crime, politics, race, genders, pronouns and of course guns. lol All by design. Look at Ukraine as an example of how people can be led into the idea of war with Russia. Putin was to be dead months ago by cancer and of course completely defeated any day now since March. lol

Isis now fighting there and paid for by US! Yes ISIS. lol

Anyway, 40% of all trade in done in U.S. dollars and nearly 100% used for oil. The world is done being manipulated our currency and the globalists that control our puppet government.

Please educate yourselves on BRICS+ and adjust accordingly. Also look at the EEF forum and read about their meetings this year. You can watch their speeches.



This will shed some light on why our political system mimics one of a third world country.

So the elections result are as planned. Some having hope, others not, but all ensure complete globalist control over you. And of course fighters for WW3 to protect their wealth.

Omg yes. Many here are saying nearly identical warnings but not enough are listening or comprehending the implications of what it means

 

[dwa12479]

I used to think this also, now I'm not sure.
I'd have to look up populations. NYC is always hurting the rest of the state, but Buffalo and Rochester also fuck this up every election. Is there enough red voting population outside them two cities? I would think so. If it wasn't for those two city's these elections would be alot closer.

NYC makes up 45% of the states population... residing in 0.5% of the states total land mass. It drives the statewide politics all by itself every election cycle . If we split this state and chopped those 5 counties off NY would be red.

 

[subsonic]

NYC makes up 45% of the states population... residing in 0.5% of the states total land mass. It drives the statewide politics all by itself every election cycle . If we split this state and chopped those 5 counties off NY would be red.

This is just a fantasyland scenario. The dems would love to make DC and Puerto Rico states and chop California into three blue states too.

We may be headed to a de facto national divorce of some sort but the idea that Congress and states are going to agree to dispossessed minorities just taking their marbles and seceding, and in particular in a way that politically benefits that dispossessed minority (e.g. upstate NY, inland California, eastern Washington/Oregon etc.) is not reality.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

also the issue is I dont think the city can survive without all our taxes/money They need us to pay for all their crap.....I dont think they could be self sufficient?!

 

[timboy]

When voting, if given the choice to select my candidate on the Repub or Conservative party line I choose conservative. But I noticed yesterday that a number of candidates on the Dem ticket were also on the conservative ticket. How can someone be on both the dem and conservative ticket???

I've wondered the same,we had 2 locals running unoppsed that were on both lines,I simply wrote in the word other.

 

[lrick]

I think Republicans do stupid things. Like Trump makes fun of DeSantis the other night, WTF was that?

I also don't think him teasing a "big announcement" next Tuesday helped.

One of the things about Trump that has always bothered me is his lack of diplomacy. His go-to when threatened or challenged is to play harder to his base. Making your base love you more is not a great strategy. Votes are not counted by with how much love they are cast. They count one at a time and he fails to put an equal effort into converting versus enamoring.

I'm grateful for all he has done, he rallied Republicans when it was needed in 2016, but his ego is writing checks his ass can't cash.

 

[lrick]

This is just a fantasyland scenario. The dems would love to make DC and Puerto Rico states and chop California into three blue states too.

We may be headed to a de facto national divorce of some sort but the idea that Congress and states are going to agree to dispossessed minorities just taking their marbles and seceding, and in particular in a way that politically benefits that dispossessed minority (e.g. upstate NY, inland California, eastern Washington/Oregon etc.) is not reality.

Also, there is this....
US Constitution
Article IV

Section. 3.​

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Ain't happening.

 

[Saltwater60]

Also, there is this....
US Constitution
Article IV

Section. 3.​

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Ain't happening.

The only time they follow the constitution

 

[Temporarysharts]

Well, I'm disappointed, but come on, did any of us really think anything was going to change in NY? I swear we've been through this numerous times over the year.

At the end of the day, just live your life the best way you see fit, regardless of what the ruling class dictates. As George Carlin said: "If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it."

 

[lrick]

I think Republicans do stupid things. Like Trump makes fun of DeSantis the other night, WTF was that?

Right now Trump is like Gordon Ramsey. You know he's a great cook, but once you get the recipe for yourself, you realize he's a dick.

 

[SonOfSun]

Your planet on which Zeldin is a "conservative ideologue" who is too far right is why our country is careening into the ditch. That's the strategy of Republicans chasing the Democrat platform of 15 minutes ago. A grand old party of hormone-blocked nonbinary-kid-raising, abortion celebrating, LGBTQIAAP+-affirming, reasonable gun controlling, God-hating corporate tax cutters.

Where did I say that's my opinion? I'm telling you why other people that don't like Hochul didn't vote for Zeldin.

So you mean the R's couldn't find a guy that could point out the valid crime issues, and talk to the inflation issues, etc. *WITHOUT* rambling on about Trump-the-election-was-stolen-tears-2020? That's fine, keep picking that type of candidate... and keep losing.

 

[Temporarysharts]

Where did I say that's my opinion? I'm telling you why other people that don't like Hochul didn't vote for Zeldin.

So you mean the R's couldn't find a guy that could point out the valid crime issues, and talk to the inflation issues, etc. *WITHOUT* rambling on about Trump-the-election-was-stolen-tears-2020? That's fine, keep picking that type of candidate... and keep losing.

Don't worry, instead we'll just endlessly talk about separating NY from NYC time and time and time again after every loss even though it'll never ever happen. Or maybe we'll just move out of the state, even though we won't.

 

[Phazer]

If this continues into 2024, the country is truly fucked

Why wait that long to believe this? It is upon us already.

 

[tirwin1]

I'm truly surprised singletary lost to that worthless party hack morelle. I thought between the black and suburban vote he would win. As far as I can tell he wasn't a trump acolyte (or at least I didn't notice). That one hurts more than the zeldin loss. Oh well. The people have spoken and they want more crime and more criminals on the streets. I hope every democrat voter has multiple run ins with the criminals they just put back on the street.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Oh well. The people have spoken and they want more crime and more criminals on the streets. I hope every democrat voter has multiple run ins with the criminals they just put back on the street.

I'm not one that typically prays. I do hope and pray though that those who voted for more of the same from those that destroyed this country/state over the last 4 years reap what they sow. I truly hope their cities/lives crumble, burn and are destroyed. I want to see it happen. I will stand by watching and applauding with a big shit eating grin and feel absolutely no sorrow for what they experience.

 

[subsonic]

Where did I say that's my opinion? I'm telling you why other people that don't like Hochul didn't vote for Zeldin.

So you mean the R's couldn't find a guy that could point out the valid crime issues, and talk to the inflation issues, etc. *WITHOUT* rambling on about Trump-the-election-was-stolen-tears-2020? That's fine, keep picking that type of candidate... and keep losing.

Seems like it. I don't know where you get your news; Zeldin was one of many R's in congress who voted against certifying the election with a comment that allegations of fraud deserved debate. After it was certified he moved on. You trying to make Zeldin into some kind of QAnon/extreme right winger is laughable.

"why other people that don't like Hochul didn't vote for Zeldin" more like why any lefty won't vote for any real conservative in New York. I'm sure they'd vote against anyone who isn't a fan of subsidized abortion on demand and mandatory pronoun training for all. Actually Zeldin seems pretty okay with those.

 

[SonOfSun]

Seems like it. I don't know where you get your news; Zeldin was one of many R's in congress who voted against certifying the election with a comment that allegations of fraud deserved debate. After it was certified he moved on. You trying to make Zeldin into some kind of QAnon/extreme right winger is laughable.

"why other people that don't like Hochul didn't vote for Zeldin" more like why any lefty won't vote for any real conservative in New York. I'm sure they'd vote against anyone who isn't a fan of subsidized abortion on demand and mandatory pronoun training for all. Actually Zeldin seems pretty okay with those.

How did Hochul only win by 300K votes then?

 

[subsonic]

How did Hochul only win by 300K votes then?

Because Zeldin isn't the QAnon "conservative ideologue" you claim he is, derp. You say he was too far right to pull enough D votes. I say if he was any more woke than he is I would have written in a Larouchie in protest before voting for him.

Zeldin really is a politically opportunist, business-friendly Long Island Jew who will occupy whatever space it takes for him to get elected and more power and money. He'll either find some other political path forward or transition to some lobbying/industry influence peddling position, or both at the same time.

What's Zeldin's career? 4 years of his minimum active duty in as an Army ROTC-path JAG officer after law school (he once claimed to be on the "front lines" while in fact his military career consisted of "lawyering"), paying nicely for his education while greasing his resume, one year as a government attorney for a notoriously corrupt agency (PANYNJ), two years private practice, 12 years in Long Island politics. That's your "conservative ideologue."

 

[lrick]

I'm truly surprised singletary lost to that worthless party hack morelle. I thought between the black and suburban vote he would win. As far as I can tell he wasn't a trump acolyte (or at least I didn't notice). That one hurts more than the zeldin loss. Oh well. The people have spoken and they want more crime and more criminals on the streets. I hope every democrat voter has multiple run ins with the criminals they just put back on the street.

Agreed.

As far as I can tell he wasn't a trump acolyte (or at least I didn't notice).

He wasn't, Dems just spun him that way per their game-plan. I never really saw enough push back against it in the way campaign ads and of course most believe what they hear the most. More money should have been put into that race.

 

[ManrisFrack]

Who won last night?

The establishment won last night, with few exceptions. Trump is the current face of a genuine populist movement in the US. He got there by being willing to say 'fuck off' to those who wield the real power. That's populism in a nutshell. But Americans, for reasons I don't really understand, are losing the will to keep shouting "fuck off." Things certainly aren't getting better, you'd think MORE would be willing resist.

It took the establishment 4 to 6 years of constant undermining and attack, but they have turned majority opinion (which obviously includes many populist right and conservatives) against Trump and the populist positions he champions. Granted, Trump has serious character flaws and weaknesses but those flaws can either be highlighted (Trump) or hidden (Biden, Fetterman, Kemp, etc.). If the Republican movers had chosen to support Trump and work with a populist-right agenda, I really think we'd be in a very different situation right now. But supporting the populist-right is, by definition, antithetical to existing political power structures.

All this to make this point: Support DeSantis or Lake or Tulsi or whoever if you want in 2024, but the country will continue to slide toward progressive authoritarianism. If the "populist" candidate is allowed to win, it is because they have agreed not to threaten existing power structures. Any indication that they will support citizens over the state and they will be ground to dust, just like Trump and many of the candidates he supported.

In the end, most Americans will think, act, and vote exactly the way their screens tell them to.