NYS Gunshop Inspections by SP

[stokes]

A Douchbag Liar on the internet......???

Well, if you will just point out where something says the NYSP are targeting MAGA people maybe we could just drop the liar....maybe. But you cant because you made it up because you have a serious penchant making shit up.Back to my office? I dont have one maybe I'm a field operative for the CIA, not FBI/ATF. Maybe you should get out of your moms basement and get outside and see the sky isnt really falling. Douchebag. I have 2 guns from late friends, all on my permit. I never pretended anything about any unregistered AW's. And I do have "big mags", I'm allowed to. But there you go again, making shit up

 

[Zerex]

Who buys guns................. are you daft?

Likely.

You believe incorrectly that no one knows about you, personally......and you are invisible to the DEEP STATE and the NYSP............got ghost gun parts?

It is a police state..............got a PP? CCP? Semi License? Hunting license?

Even a few years ago, a guy was told not to buy guns or a hunting license..he got the hunting license anyway and BP guns......... then half a dozen farmers market rifles...........and got an inspection later on, as his name was cross indexed for a hunting license with DCJS...........hung himself in prison...another innocent guy.

Ostriches have no clue




Famous last words.

 

[Cavalry]

Who buys guns................. are you daft?

Likely.

You believe incorrectly that no one knows about you, personally......and you are invisible to the DEEP STATE and the NYSP............got ghost gun parts?

It is a police state..............got a PP? CCP? Semi License? Hunting license?

Even a few years ago, a guy was told not to buy guns or a hunting license..he got the hunting license anyway and BP guns......... then half a dozen farmers market rifles...........and got an inspection later on, as his name was cross indexed for a hunting license with DCJS...........hung himself in prison...another innocent guy.

Ostriches have no clue




Famous last words.

Can anyone translate this to coherent? I was taking lessons for awhile but never got the knack.

 

[stokes]

You believe incorrectly that no one knows about you, personally......and you are invisible to the DEEP STATE and the NYSP.

Again, you are making shit up, that makes you a liar. Show me where the fuck I said anything resembling that lie. You cant, and that makes you a douchebag, ergo "lying douchebag". Who buys guns? Every kind of people, not just MAGA, get your head out of your ass and your ass outta mommas basement and get some air, douche.Leżący dupek

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Can anyone translate this to coherent? I was taking lessons for awhile but never got the knack.

I am right there with you re Zerex.

 

[Zerex]

From a tech friend:

Really? Government level network fuckery will make any VPN or commercial web security software look like tissue paper in a thunderstorm. You need to realize ANY device connected to the public network is owned 100% by government owned or government sponsored actors.

I've made many posts before about this. For years. My position as a guy who can read network protocol standards, that has deployed Wireshark on private and public networks, that has generated data packets as polls that made browsers admit exactly how much of EVERYTHING you do on line and a shit load you think is private on your machine is available to anyone above the level of a child in network operations.

 

[repete]

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www.osc.ny.gov

100,000 Domestic Violence complaints, per year. No gun owners inthat bunch eh?


Divorces in NYS..............all require weapons surrender, for a time or forever.

Divorce Rate in New York | The Latest Statistics [Updated 2024]

Obtain the latest divorce statistics for New York State. You’ll discover major divorce and marriage trends and how they depend on demographic and social factors.

divorce.com

Wife or girlfriend or neighbor afraid of you and your guns?.............

I didn't see anything at all about guns in your link, can you narrow it down some?

 

[Acer-m14]

Even a few years ago, a guy was told not to buy guns or a hunting license..he got the hunting license anyway and BP guns......... then half a dozen farmers market rifles...........and got an inspection later on,

why did he get a inspection for buying a hunting license and some guns ??

what was the crime for the inspection ??

when did he become a Gun Shop ?

 

[Zerex]

It is amazing here..........................

His name was run by the DEC hunting license records,vs DCJS criminal records... as law now requires. He was a Fed Felon.....white collar crime.
BP weapons many not be purchased by Felons anymore..........and your BP weapons have to go thru a 4473 at a NYS gundealer.
He hung himself in Fed Prison. His heavy pot use likely contributed.

Eric Konefal Obituary (2010) - Utica, NY - The Observer-Dispatch

View Eric Konefal's obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.

www.legacy.com

He was warned.

I must add that he tried to take his friends down with him........and stash his weapons at friends homes but they all fucked him up the ass...........

Your friends/relatives/neighbors will do the same..................survival.
It was even seen in the first Red Dawn Movie.

 

[Beerman]

It is amazing here..........................

His name was run by the DEC hunting license records,vs DCJS criminal records... as law now requires. He was a Fed Felon.....white collar crime.
BP weapons many not be purchased by Felons anymore..........and your BP weapons have to go thru a 4473 at a NYS gundealer.
He hung himself in Fed Prison. His heavy pot use likely contributed.

Eric Konefal Obituary (2010) - Utica, NY - The Observer-Dispatch

View Eric Konefal's obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.

www.legacy.com

He was warned.

I must add that he tried to take his friends down with him........and stash his weapons at friends homes but they all fucked him up the ass...........

Your friends/relatives/neighbors will do the same..................survival.
It was even seen in the first Red Dawn Movie.

Red Dawn was the best documentary ever live-streamed. I’m glad I’m not the only one who knows it was real.

 

[Cavalry]

It is amazing here..........................

His name was run by the DEC hunting license records,vs DCJS criminal records... as law now requires. He was a Fed Felon.....white collar crime.
BP weapons many not be purchased by Felons anymore..........and your BP weapons have to go thru a 4473 at a NYS gundealer.
He hung himself in Fed Prison. His heavy pot use likely contributed.

You make no sense. Why would someone convicted of a state crime go to federal prison?
Even your friends at the AFT say at a federal level a felon can have a BP

Can a person prohibited by law from possessing a firearm own a black powder firearm? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Because black powder firearms are considered antique firearms, the possession of a black powder firearm by a person subject to federal firearms disabilities is not prohibited by the GCA.

www.atf.gov

 

[Vapor]

Can anyone translate this to coherent? I was taking lessons for awhile but never got the knack.

Every village has one.

 

[Beerman]

Every village has one.

This village has a few…

 

[Acer-m14]

It is amazing here..........................

His name was run by the DEC hunting license records,vs DCJS criminal records... as law now requires. He was a Fed Felon.....white collar crime.
BP weapons many not be purchased by Felons anymore..........and your BP weapons have to go thru a 4473 at a NYS gundealer.
He hung himself in Fed Prison. His heavy pot use likely contributed.

Eric Konefal Obituary (2010) - Utica, NY - The Observer-Dispatch

View Eric Konefal's obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.

www.legacy.com

He was warned.

I must add that he tried to take his friends down with him........and stash his weapons at friends homes but they all fucked him up the ass...........

Your friends/relatives/neighbors will do the same..................survival.
It was even seen in the first Red Dawn Movie.

I'm pretty sure back in 2010 you can buy a BP pistol or rifle at any place .. cash and carry and no background check

the BP bulls shits happened with the CCIA and the Witch .

the NY un-safe of 2013 still left you to go buy a BP pistol or rifle ..

Try Again Zerex ..




Its also Amazing here they you can't quote me and answer my question .

i bet im on his iggy ..

 

[Acer-m14]

You make no sense. Why would someone convicted of a state crime go to federal prison?
Even your friends at the AFT say at a federal level a felon can have a BP

Can a person prohibited by law from possessing a firearm own a black powder firearm? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Because black powder firearms are considered antique firearms, the possession of a black powder firearm by a person subject to federal firearms disabilities is not prohibited by the GCA.

www.atf.gov

 

[XP100]

I had 1 inspection by NYSP in the 16 yrs. I was open. Checked the handguns I had instock and cross checked them with A&D books and my P12 forms. I read him the serial numbers while he went thru the books. After almost 2 hrs. he said everything was good. I figured his official business was finished and when he asked to look at a S&W model 36 I had I asked to see his handgun permit. He got a little pissy with me and said he didn'r need one. I told him looking at it for possible purchase was nothing to do with his job and he could come back with his PP and I would let him handle it. He said it looks like you pretty much know the NY laws and told me to have a nice day. Never saw him again.

 

[Zerex]

Ignorance is just amazing here.......................I have a duty to inform you.

If a person who is in possession of a firearm as a felon.........in this case a Federal Felony conviction for money laundering......even if the State arrests him for being in possession, the superior authority..the Feds here...... have the option, and can charge him, allowing the state to skate on this....no double jeopardy, and the same thing happens if you are convicted of serious Fed Tax violations......

GOT TO SCHOOL AND STUDY

 

[Cavalry]

Ignorance is just amazing here.......................I have a duty to inform you.

If a person who is in possession of a firearm as a felon.........in this case a Federal Felony conviction for money laundering......even if the State arrests him for being in possession, the superior authority..the Feds here...... have the option, and can charge him, allowing the state to skate on this....no double jeopardy, and the same thing happens if you are convicted of serious Fed Tax violations......

GOT TO SCHOOL AND STUDY

This just gets better and better. The backtracking is phenomenal.

 

[Vapor]

This just gets better and better. The backtracking is phenomenal.

You are being saved, please do not resist.

 

[stokes]

Ignorance is just amazing here.......................I have a duty to inform you.

Ignorance is bliss. But you are still a lying douchebag. What fucking duty do you have to inform anybody about anything?

Gunshops are being inspected to see if any shop sold a gun to a MAGA supporter..

This is how you started this thread, your first line. I have asked a couple times where you got this from and you just ignore it. BECAUSE YOU MADE IT UP you lying douchebag.

 

[Acer-m14]

This just gets better and better. The backtracking is phenomenal.

I'm still trying to find out how the Felon Hunter with a BP gun is running a Gun Store (FFL) to get the Gunshop inspection from NYSP in the first place ..

 

[FP1201]

You make no sense. Why would someone convicted of a state crime go to federal prison?
Even your friends at the AFT say at a federal level a felon can have a BP

Can a person prohibited by law from possessing a firearm own a black powder firearm? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Because black powder firearms are considered antique firearms, the possession of a black powder firearm by a person subject to federal firearms disabilities is not prohibited by the GCA.

www.atf.gov

You're confusing FEDERAL LAW with STATE LAW: Fed's say Black Powder/Muzzle loaders are "non-guns" but NYS says they ARE guns/firearms and Felons ARE prohibited from having them. (it started a decade ago when this sub-par Female Trooper thought she was all that and a felon popped her with a Cap & Ball Revolver, well the Legislature said no more of that! and made them illegal for Felons)
On another tangent: The NICS System has very specific parameters for what a NICS check can and cannot be used for, and specifically says its not to be used for Non-Guns, which it say BP/ML guns are (sans the ones that can easily be converted to shoot modern cartridge with a Barrel Change eg. T/C Encore) yet NYS insists that same system be used for BGC's prior to transfer. (unless the latest revision has changed this)

 

[Cavalry]

You're confusing FEDERAL LAW with STATE LAW: Fed's say Black Powder/Muzzle loaders are "non-guns" but NYS says they ARE guns/firearms and Felons ARE prohibited from having them. (it started a decade ago when this sub-par Female Trooper thought she was all that and a felon popped her with a Cap & Ball Revolver, well the Legislature said no more of that! and made them illegal for Felons)
On another tangent: The NICS System has very specific parameters for what a NICS check can and cannot be used for, and specifically says its not to be used for Non-Guns, which it say BP/ML guns are (sans the ones that can easily be converted to shoot modern cartridge with a Barrel Change eg. T/C Encore) yet NYS insists that same system be used for BGC's prior to transfer. (unless the latest revision has changed this)

No, I have not confused the two. I specifically clarified federal and state in the initial post. Felons can have BP as far as the Federal Gov is concerned and our State has determined that felons cannot have a BP. A person breaking state law does not go to Federal prison was the point.
This dude he keeps referencing has been dead since like 2010, does this not predate the state level BP restrictions anyway?

 

[Cavalry]

I'm still trying to find out how the Felon Hunter with a BP gun is running a Gun Store (FFL) to get the Gunshop inspection from NYSP in the first place ..

Or how the felon did his time and was released in the early 80's, but somehow was back in Federal prison in 2010, even though there is no record for that, where he killed himself for a state level crime, which at that time was not a state level crime.

 

[Zerex]

I guess no one read the fine print.....................man was arrested with 10+ non bp guns..more than just the BP he started with.................Fed Felon with guns....................State let the Feds have him, due to cost of incarceration even though the State had a case with his non BP guns and the hunting license check......oddly enough the state law on BP weapons CHANGED AFTER HIS ARREST.......

Today you cannot even get a bp pistol thru the mails. It may be that it has to go on a PP. I have some BP pistol on my permit.

The number of says to lose your guns and go to jail today, is amazing.. even today someone may yell at his girlfriend or wife once too much..........OOP............no guns.

Fed/State prosecution depends upon the situation when both Fed and State laws are broken.

 

[Acer-m14]

@Cavalry @FP1201

had to dig for the info on the date .. but i have first hand knowledge ,

I was in store when the guy bought it .. And was in the same car for the ride back home ...

Back in Mar. of 2017 ...

A BP pistol from a gun store

did not need a background check ..

it was cash and carry out to your car ..

No questions asked ..

just like how all gun sales should be ..


since a Felon could buy a BP pistol back then in NYS ..

 

[Cavalry]

I guess no one read the fine print.....................man was arrested with 10+ non bp guns..more than just the BP he started with.................Fed Felon with guns....................State let the Feds have him, due to cost of incarceration even though the State had a case with his non BP guns and the hunting license check......oddly enough the state law on BP weapons CHANGED AFTER HIS ARREST.......

Federal prison and state prison offer free records of inmates. Your friend served federal time in the early 80's and was released. There is no record of a federal or state arrest, newspaper articles, indictment, trial, conviction or imprisonment for what you state.

What should we believe, that all records are missing, or that a person with a history of lying is doing what he does best?

I want to hear more lore about the "inspections" you and your friend were subjected to, or better yet back to the core lie, what "MAGA types" are being harassed by the state police due to their firearm purchases? This should be popcorn worthy.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Gunsales are recorded by the NYSP inspectors, same as the NYSP NICS check...both started the same day.
Names are run against not only the Main Core List, but Internet loudmouth tags.

Main Core - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you think that guns will be legal in NYS in 5 years....your are wrong. Public safety demands virtual total gun bans, like most EU countries....

Main core is real and terrifying. There are other programs and surveillance in addition that is occurring m.

I'm sure I'm on "lists" for being willing to speak my mind and not kowtow to our overlords.

I bet the majority of this board is on "lists".

In the back of my mind knowing this is a reason I want to leave this wretched state and fall off the grid in rural America somewhere.

 

[Zerex]

List of government mass surveillance projects - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Short version, shared with NYSP.

Carnivore, DCS Net, IC Reach, Magic Lantern, Main Core, Room 641A Stellar Wind.......and more.