1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Apparently, it's not going to affect pre-check.
Yet....
Yet....
NYS residents can no longer enroll in trusted traveler programs (merged thread)
- Thread starter Saltwater60
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Seems that yes, this is happening...
Let's take it to unforeseen ridiculous proportions shall we?...
Coming soon, for convenience of course, the "CHIP" or Counter (Terrorist), Homeland (Security), Implanted, Personal (Indentification)...
A small RFID chip implanted under the skin near the left wrist. Unlike the NAZI tattoo, this is invisible to all others, yet still, an individual physical marker applied to the person. Early talks are under way to expand the program with the Gov't licensing commercial enterprises to access limited data for the purpose of private financial transactions. Auctioning access bandwidth akin to radio frequency leasing, institutions will share bandwidth, limited to prevent overloading the Gov't ability to process its own validation processing.
Some banks and credit institutions are formulating a legal fight as they intend to focus their complaint upon the negative impact this route will take upon the monetary system and exclude those unwilling to submit to the Gov't fee structure. Liberals are complaining it is disadvantageous to minorities and those who are not are not permanent residents. Scientists and the Medical field are indicating concerns over unresearched effects upon the body as the skin has been identified as an organ and this may seriously impact it's function. Google and other Data collection agencies have expressed concern over the Gov't encroaching upon their efforts replacing private industry well established and entrenched. They have not indicated their next step to combat what they have initially indicated is an unwarranted and unprecedented intrusion into basically a Gov't takeover of private commercial enterprises.
The Federal Gov't has countered by outlining the benefits, especially if implanted at birth, namely the ability to provide tracking data throughout the carriers life, from scholastic data, medical and financial... All biometrics and experiences, transactions, location data included. The Federal Gov't has also noted a program instituted under DOHS budgeting to begin installation of the sensor network and server/data collection architecture.
DHS blocks New Yorkers from enrolling in 'trusted traveler' programs over 'sanctuary' law
DHS will no longer let New Yorkers enroll in several programs intended to expedite international travel.
www.politico.com
Let's take it to unforeseen ridiculous proportions shall we?...
Coming soon, for convenience of course, the "CHIP" or Counter (Terrorist), Homeland (Security), Implanted, Personal (Indentification)...
A small RFID chip implanted under the skin near the left wrist. Unlike the NAZI tattoo, this is invisible to all others, yet still, an individual physical marker applied to the person. Early talks are under way to expand the program with the Gov't licensing commercial enterprises to access limited data for the purpose of private financial transactions. Auctioning access bandwidth akin to radio frequency leasing, institutions will share bandwidth, limited to prevent overloading the Gov't ability to process its own validation processing.
Some banks and credit institutions are formulating a legal fight as they intend to focus their complaint upon the negative impact this route will take upon the monetary system and exclude those unwilling to submit to the Gov't fee structure. Liberals are complaining it is disadvantageous to minorities and those who are not are not permanent residents. Scientists and the Medical field are indicating concerns over unresearched effects upon the body as the skin has been identified as an organ and this may seriously impact it's function. Google and other Data collection agencies have expressed concern over the Gov't encroaching upon their efforts replacing private industry well established and entrenched. They have not indicated their next step to combat what they have initially indicated is an unwarranted and unprecedented intrusion into basically a Gov't takeover of private commercial enterprises.
The Federal Gov't has countered by outlining the benefits, especially if implanted at birth, namely the ability to provide tracking data throughout the carriers life, from scholastic data, medical and financial... All biometrics and experiences, transactions, location data included. The Federal Gov't has also noted a program instituted under DOHS budgeting to begin installation of the sensor network and server/data collection architecture.
The day they try to chip me is the day I put the chip implanter on rapid fire and shove it up Cuomo's ass.
Let's be perfectly clear here.
NO. FUCKING. WAY.
This whole "papers please" bullshit to travel within our own Country is ridiculous. We don't need Russia to do anything, we are becoming Russia!
And yes, if I were Governor of a free State that bordered New York I would, most certainly, announce that NYS Driver's Licenses will no longer be recognized, and any New Yorker who wanted to travel though the State would require a non-resident license and window tag or be pulled over.
Let's be perfectly clear here.
NO. FUCKING. WAY.
This whole "papers please" bullshit to travel within our own Country is ridiculous. We don't need Russia to do anything, we are becoming Russia!
And yes, if I were Governor of a free State that bordered New York I would, most certainly, announce that NYS Driver's Licenses will no longer be recognized, and any New Yorker who wanted to travel though the State would require a non-resident license and window tag or be pulled over.
It has nothing to do with domestic travel. Global Entry and NEXUS are programs to vet you for international travel. Basically it’s a way to cut the line.
Buffalo News says it’s Trump’s fault. Unbelievable.
About 175,000 NY residents to lose trusted traveler access this year
Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf announced the dramatic policy change in an appearance on Fox News late Wednesday.
buffalonews.com
As far as i know the background check for a CDL HazMat is done by the feds. Mine was.
I'll look later, I was tired last night, but I thought I read that the enhanced was no longer going to be valid because if the openness of the process to get a DL in NY State for the non citizens. I hope this is true.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Maybe AG “LettI” James can sue DHS and make them stop!! 
You won’t be able to use a regular old driver’s license for flying as of October. Enhanced is fine. Illegals aren’t eligible to apply for enhanced.
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MrWhite
22lr
FUAC
Hahahahaha.....
Fools I really hope this backfires in their face!
When I lived in WNY, I got NEXUS at the Canadian office in Ft. Erie. It gets you expedited access at the Canadian border, and it also qualifies for TSA Pre when flying. TSA Pre is only good for 5 yrs (?), and it is more expensive than Nexus, which is good for 7 years.
If you've ever sat in long lines at the Peace Bridge in Buffalo, you would appreciate NEXUS. Since I moved to NC, I changed my address. I called NEXUS, and they told me I could still keep it after having moved out of state. Apparently, you cannot apply for NEXUS initially if you aren't living in a border state with Canada. They were not sure if I would have to come to Buffalo to renew it in person, - they said it might get renewed without a visit required. But even though I am no longer a NY resident, I can still use it for DHS requirements, - including TSA Pre lines when flying.
It would definitely be a huge PITA if DHS were to take it further, and rule that NY, CA, and other "sanctuary" states D/L's were no longer valid ID for flying, but it would definitely send a big FU to Princess Fredo and Gavin Newsom to let them know that the sanctuary crap will no longer fly. (no pun intended...)
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Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Identify as an illegal alien and just walk right through. Save yourself all the time, paperwork and aggravation.
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
This will probably mean that illegals wont be able to fly to domestic locations either. Be prepared for some agency or state to claim that this is racist...NY will probably be the first...
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I hope you’re wrong and I’m right. Not for the sake of being right. Illegals can’t get an enhanced DL from what I understand.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
There NYS illegal DL is not good for domestic air travel anyway or any federal things.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I was considering getting a new license, new ID open a few credit cards and have a little fun on Cuomo's dime.
How could this shit possibly go wrong?
How could this shit possibly go wrong?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Eh, who cares. I refuse to travel outside of this state- because it is just so fucking awesome here.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
I have been thinking about going to Mexico and sneaking back into the USA.
I want some of the red carpet treatment too. It would be a nice change of pace to have a state governor
that protects me, instead of vilifying me for being a law abiding citizen.
I'm going to change my name to "El Bigfoot O"
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Eh, who cares. I refuse to travel outside of this state- because it is just so fucking awesome here.
Honestly, it's a very scenic and beautiful slice of nature. A lot don't realize that. I'd love to leave people in NYC absolutely alone and just live out my life enjoying it.
The problem is, they won't leave me alone. So I have no choice but to take my tax dollars elsewhere.
Kirk_STNY
.45 acp
I'm watching C-SPAN about facial recognition and biometrics. NY now blocks access to NYS info for trusted traveler status. NY had no contact with CBP, ICE etc. before putting it into effect. CBP found out when access was turned off with no warning.
Watching these idiots ask about it especially a Dem from NY is hilarious. The NY Republican is fully aware of the problem and is against the block. The NY Dem was shocked to hear that her Global ID clearance cannot be renewed due to this block.
The NYS block was not the subject of the hearing. Just an interesting side note.
I was going to apply for Trusted Traveler status. But thanks to the Green Light law I can't. Thanks Mario you fucking idiot!!
Even Kaliforna allows the access.
Per TSA website:
"Effective immediately, residents of the State of New York will no longer be eligible to apply for or renew membership in U.S. Customs and Border Protection Trusted Traveler Programs due to state legislation that restricts CBP's access to criminal history records and other critical vetting information that compromise the safety and security of the United States and its citizens. For additional information please visit
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Watching these idiots ask about it especially a Dem from NY is hilarious. The NY Republican is fully aware of the problem and is against the block. The NY Dem was shocked to hear that her Global ID clearance cannot be renewed due to this block.
The NYS block was not the subject of the hearing. Just an interesting side note.
I was going to apply for Trusted Traveler status. But thanks to the Green Light law I can't. Thanks Mario you fucking idiot!!
Even Kaliforna allows the access.
Per TSA website:
"Effective immediately, residents of the State of New York will no longer be eligible to apply for or renew membership in U.S. Customs and Border Protection Trusted Traveler Programs due to state legislation that restricts CBP's access to criminal history records and other critical vetting information that compromise the safety and security of the United States and its citizens. For additional information please visit
New York Residents No Longer Eligible to Apply for or Renew Trusted Traveler Programs | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
WASHINGTON — Effective immediately, residents of the State of New York will no longer be eligible to apply for or renew membership in U.S.
www.cbp.gov
Kirk_STNY
.45 acp
Now it starts to get coverage
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Trump Administration Suspends New Yorkers From ‘Trusted Traveler’ Programs
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Trump Administration Suspends New Yorkers From ‘Trusted Traveler’ Programs
Trump Administration Suspends New Yorkers From ‘Trusted Traveler’ Programs | WSKG
The Department of Homeland Security says the state's "Green Light" law allowing licenses for immigrants without legal status interferes with security. State officials call it "political retaliation." Updated at 1:40 p.m. ET The U.S. Department of Homeland Security says it will no longer allow...
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Kirk_STNY
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Tom Reed places blame where it belongs. Basically NYS cut Access to the DMV data with no warning to CBP. Koumo tries to blame Trump admin. But the reality is the system will not work without access to NY data.
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Trump Administration Suspends New Yorkers From ‘Trusted Traveler’ Programs
Trump Administration Suspends New Yorkers From ‘Trusted Traveler’ Programs | WSKG
The Department of Homeland Security says the state's "Green Light" law allowing licenses for immigrants without legal status interferes with security. State officials call it "political retaliation." Updated at 1:40 p.m. ET The U.S. Department of Homeland Security says it will no longer allow...
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SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
A few years ago, when I renewed my drivers license, I decided to spend the extra $30/8 years fee and upgrade to an Enhanced DL. I thought it would be prudent to be able to provide instant proof of US citizenship anytime anywhere. Also while I was at it brought my DD214 with, to have 'Veteran' on my DL as well, most places will accept this as bona fide proof for discount purposes. Obtaining an Enhanced DL at the NYS DMV was a serious process.
Because of our close proximity to Canada, a Border Patrol (Chevy Tahoe) vehicle is a common sight on the roads here, and involved in many traffic stops. Undoubtedly has to do with migrant farm workers as well, as many hail from other countries (I.e. Dominican Republic).
Imo Cuomo and his liberal anti-common sense cronies are to blame for this. It is the logical outcome of restricting info from the Feds, for travel abroad.
What's he thinking, 100 years from now they'll build a statue of him, champion of the illegal immigrant underground railroad?
Because of our close proximity to Canada, a Border Patrol (Chevy Tahoe) vehicle is a common sight on the roads here, and involved in many traffic stops. Undoubtedly has to do with migrant farm workers as well, as many hail from other countries (I.e. Dominican Republic).
Imo Cuomo and his liberal anti-common sense cronies are to blame for this. It is the logical outcome of restricting info from the Feds, for travel abroad.
What's he thinking, 100 years from now they'll build a statue of him, champion of the illegal immigrant underground railroad?
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Jaywmustang
.308 Win
Isn’t that what socialist countrys citizens do? Wait in lines?And in the meanwhile NYS residents are going to wait in line!
livingston
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New York Politicians Shield Illegals, So DHS Makes Airport Security a Nightmare for Them
The liberal state of New York, and other far-left cities and states, just learned that they have a price to pay if they want to continue to thumb their noses at the federal government.
The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday that it had kicked residents of New York out of its Trusted Travelers program, meaning longer lines at border crossings and airports for them, NBC News reported.
Once again, Governor Cuomo’s reckless Green Light Law is hindering our federal and state law enforcement and other agencies from doing their jobs, and is now preventing law abiding citizens from receiving access to important travel programs
https://t.co/afOU2DKMBd
— Rep. Elise Stefanik (@RepStefanik) February 6, 2020
The liberal state of New York, and other far-left cities and states, just learned that they have a price to pay if they want to continue to thumb their noses at the federal government.
The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday that it had kicked residents of New York out of its Trusted Travelers program, meaning longer lines at border crossings and airports for them, NBC News reported.
Once again, Governor Cuomo’s reckless Green Light Law is hindering our federal and state law enforcement and other agencies from doing their jobs, and is now preventing law abiding citizens from receiving access to important travel programs
https://t.co/afOU2DKMBd— Rep. Elise Stefanik (@RepStefanik) February 6, 2020
New York Politicians Shield Illegals, So DHS Makes Airport Security a Nightmare for Them
New York just learned there is a price to pay for flouting federal immigrations laws.
www.westernjournal.com
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Cuomo is fucking with the wrong guys
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Cuomo likes to show DiBlasio who is boss, now Trump is doing the same thing to Cuomo.