We shall see. I have my doubts.
NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision
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Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Key word, "Most" important. Not taking anything away from the other things he accomplished. I just figured the courts, particularly the SC would effect protocol for decades to come.
That's what the ruling says. You can doubt and question I guess but I'll just go by the decision. If you were gong to ignore the court ruling and just go by your own thoughts and beliefs then why be here reading up on this stuff?
Because knowledge is power.
There still isn't a clear ruling on 7rd limit vs 10 rd limit.
To my knowledge 2 courts have upheld 10 rounds.
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
I can't believe Joe Biden chimed in!
I know I said it before but think about it ,these morons are trying to instill panic in the public.
The very thing they accuse conservatives of!
Cathy Hogdill whatever her name is ,has no idea what anything means,I love the TV commercials saying Ny is currently microstamping bullets...Really,no technology yet and the slide and or firing pin microstamps it. They just say whatever the hell they want. It's comical.
I can't wait to hear Schumers rant!
It's a great day either way.
I know I said it before but think about it ,these morons are trying to instill panic in the public.
The very thing they accuse conservatives of!
Cathy Hogdill whatever her name is ,has no idea what anything means,I love the TV commercials saying Ny is currently microstamping bullets...Really,no technology yet and the slide and or firing pin microstamps it. They just say whatever the hell they want. It's comical.
I can't wait to hear Schumers rant!
It's a great day either way.
Do a search there are arguments because the court was at a local level vs state.
I know it is a good decision because Brain Dead Joe and the c*nt VP are all fired up over it!!
2nd Circuit Court Of Appeals, a federal court, upheld the ruling. 10 it is.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
In Pennsyltucky we can have anything and everything under the sun. We can buy and sell pistols and long guns and even make our own all day long. The problem is the tax stamp with NFA items but even that can be overcome. I have silencers. I have SBRs. But that's only because the entry fee is only $200 dollars and you can manufacture them yourself. I hate it with a passion but it's doable. That only leaves full auto. Again you can have them but the cost to buy one that is transferable is astronomical and you can't produce your own. That on top of the $200 stamp.
The common use argument is ridiculous and make me want to puke. That's like saying Lamborghinis aren't in common use so you can't buy them. And car ownership isn't even a right! And as others have mentioned above silencers are absolutely in common use at this point! Anything you can manufacturer yourself legally will sure as hell be in common use. Anyway, just waiting for the full auto jig market to take off.
I’ve gotta finish reading this but as with Heller I am already seeing some language that’s going to allow New York to continue their licensing scheme. If it still takes 18 months to get a pistol license and you have to show every single document that you have received over your entire life: DMV abstract, address history, work history etc. I’m not sure how this is truly going to help people who want to apply for a license to even own a pistol in New York let alone carry it.
The decision specifically states in the first few paragraphs that an objective licensing scheme is OK. Well who’s to say that New York’s licensing scheme is not objective if they simply remove the proper clause but keep all of the other bullshit?
The decision specifically states in the first few paragraphs that an objective licensing scheme is OK. Well who’s to say that New York’s licensing scheme is not objective if they simply remove the proper clause but keep all of the other bullshit?
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Many heads are exploding on the left today.
Now a lot of talk about expanding the court.
Meanwhile, many so-called media talkers are getting so much wrong because they don't have any skin in the game.
Here is a little jpeg that you can share with some of the ignorant experts yacking today.
Now a lot of talk about expanding the court.
Meanwhile, many so-called media talkers are getting so much wrong because they don't have any skin in the game.
Here is a little jpeg that you can share with some of the ignorant experts yacking today.
Then why does NYS say 7 still.......
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Because the whole damn Article 400 or the Sullivan Law is Capricious and Arbitrary by design. NYSPRA won't go out of business, and the lawyers will get to buy a new EV.
Tinman
.308 Win
We should also go back to quill pens and ink because that is when the 1st amendment was written. No more tv, internet or radio.
She is nothing but a power hungry cunt.
She is nothing but a power hungry cunt.
Incompetence. Lack of knowing what they are doing. State police was told its 10. DA's told its 10. Some states have laws that say you cant eat chicken on Sundays or kiss a girl unless married. It's meaningless, outdated nonsense.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
Big Mike
9mm
Further into the material you will see the footnote on page 30 which states "That said, because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing licenses applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry."
The direction that Thomas gives New York to adopt an “objective standard” for the licensing scheme is laughable! I’ll give you an example of an objective standard:
if you ever had a speeding ticket in your entire life you do not qualify for a handgun license. That’s objective so long as they apply the same standard to everyone. Then it’ll be another five years to get another case to the Supreme Court and by then Thomas will have died or the Dems will have packed the court.
Again I haven’t read the whole thing yet but unless there’s something in there that specifically lays out how long of a wait you can have for a license, what specific questions are allowed to be asked of the applicant, and what the national standard should be for prohibiting factors, I see no relief whatsoever with the exception of those who already jumped through all the hoops and have a license for possession or restricted carry already.
if you ever had a speeding ticket in your entire life you do not qualify for a handgun license. That’s objective so long as they apply the same standard to everyone. Then it’ll be another five years to get another case to the Supreme Court and by then Thomas will have died or the Dems will have packed the court.
Again I haven’t read the whole thing yet but unless there’s something in there that specifically lays out how long of a wait you can have for a license, what specific questions are allowed to be asked of the applicant, and what the national standard should be for prohibiting factors, I see no relief whatsoever with the exception of those who already jumped through all the hoops and have a license for possession or restricted carry already.
Still flies in the face of the court ruling. It's defiance. If we ignored laws we go to jail or fined. Where is their punisment? Ignorance is no defense correct?
Its just laziness. If they arrested and prosecuted and imposed a punishment then they'd be in defiance. They just didn't remove the meaningless text.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Because the state didn't want to update the text knowing people read the text. NYSP actually sent out a revised handbook to officers dealing with Unsafe and stating 10rd limit, the previous stated 7.
Also if you haven't read it, they're not allowed to round count mags without just cause, but take that with a grain of salt. They seem to find just cause where there is none.
Nope, doesn't get to work like that. It is either a law or it is not. Because what's the point of laws if they are not accurate? Kinda like why keep up on them, was the question you asked earlier.
Your trust and leanency in a corrupt and tyrannical government is in part of how we got here. The people that came before you had similar thoughts about how the gov is doing this for our own good or the government would never use such power in that way. Has lead to our demise as a country.
Yep. Petty game playing. Nothing more.
Who said I trust the gov? Just because they didn't update the webpage doesn't mean thats actually the law in force. Find me the arrest and you'll have a point. Its meaningless text that I pay no mind to , because I know better.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
This is precisely a question I’m trying to find an answer to. What does this ruling mean for New York State concealed carry holders that were not allowed within the five boroughs?
Do we still need to get an amendment on our license to be able to carry in the five boroughs?
Will this new ruling automatically allow us to?
Or hell such a gray area that no one really knows?
Is that not proof they are going against court rulings? Hoping that people remain ignorant vs informing them though proper law changes? It could have been amended at any time.
Then why join the forums to post and read if you are just going to go about your business anyway?
NY permits are not NYC permits. Two separate things. Apply for a NYC permit and they will have the obligation to approve it.