NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision

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If you have an unrestricted NYS PP, it was always concealed carry.............you could carry in your car, on your person, it is the intent of the law, BE ARMED................no such restriction ever existed for unrestricted licenses......... and that is what we have now.........unrestricted licenses............no locked box in trunk, no separate ammo anymore.
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If you are under arrest for DWI, you will be frisked before being cuffed.................I am not aware of a normal, non gang citizen being stopped and frisked "for safety", by MALL Cops, or in the supermarket, or parts store, or driving around normally.

Be discreet, as always. No one should know you are carrying.
 
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Zerex said:
If you have an unrestricted NYS PP, it was always concealed carry.............you could carry in your car, on your person, it is the intent of the law, BE ARMED................no such restriction ever existed for unrestricted licenses......... and that is what we have now.........unrestricted licenses............no locked box in trunk, no separate ammo anymore.
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If you are under arrest for DWI, you will be frisked before being cuffed.................I am not aware of a normal, non gang citizen being stopped and frisked "for safety", by MALL Cops, or in the supermarket, or parts store, or driving around normally.

Be discreet, as always. No one should know you are carrying.
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You missed the rest. Nobody is saying everyone is getting patted down. Im saying if someone suspects you and calls on you the police WILL pat you down and you will get the charge. Maybe you were wearing a camo hat. Maybe a "Winchester" shirt. Maybe it was something they overheard you say. The public and shop owners will be ultra sensitive now. This is high profile. IF someone has a suspicion and they make that call, you will be patted down and the jig will be up.
 
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You missed the rest. Nobody is saying everyone is getting patted down. Im saying if someone suspects you and calls on you the police WILL pat you down and you will get the charge. Maybe you were wearing a camo hat. Maybe a "Winchester" shirt. Maybe it was something they overheard you say. The public and shop owners will be ultra sensitive now. This is high profile. IF someone has a suspicion and they make that call, you will be patted down and the jig will be up.
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Maybe you walk in unarmed with the winchester shirt, then sue the shit out of them when they call.

Can't take too many of those before they learn the lesson.
 
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Maybe you walk in unarmed with the winchester shirt, then sue the shit out of them when they call.

Can't take too many of those before they learn the lesson.
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Doesn't work that way. The complaint is you were suspicious. The pat down is completely constitutional. Its been upheld over and over. Any encounter. Pat pat pat. No weapon, no problem. Again, its not a search.
 
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NYCGuy said:
I took my first boating course the other day on a 22 ft center cosole. I could not believe they allow people to purchase boats a drive them amongst other capable boaters, without any type of training/testing required. I was shocked at how hard it was to even get the boat into a slip or dock it. It takes great finesse!

Reminded me of the first time I shot a pistol, couldn’t get shots on target at 7 yards.

As far as I am concerned the only two part test that should be used is that of NICS and can you put shots on target at 7 yards? If you can’t put shots on target you can’t have a gun, forget all the good moral character garbage, that’s the only test they should be concerned with.
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If anyone is wondering why NY sucks for gun owners simply re read this post.
 
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Glock_USA said:
Doesn't work that way. The complaint is you were suspicious. The pat down is completely constitutional. Its been upheld over and over. Any encounter. Pat pat pat. No weapon, no problem. Again, its not a search.
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You're not suing the cops, you're suing the business that called them.

And it doesn't matter if you win. How many of those cases do you think they want to win ?
 
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nobody said:
So nobody stuck around for the summary dispositions? (edit: except nobody)

BIANCHI, DOMINIC, ET AL. V. FROSH, ATT'Y GEN. OF MD, ET AL.

ASSN. OF NJ RIFLE, ET AL. V. BRUCK, ATT'Y GEN. OF NJ, ET AL.

YOUNG, GEORGE K. V. HAWAII, ET AL.

DUNCAN, VIRGINIA, ET AL. V. BONTA, ATT'Y GEN. OF CA

...all vacated and remanded back to lower courts for further consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. Bruen
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i see this has gotten lost in the chaff of heil hochul's unConstitutional and illegal behavior.

So what do these rulings mean for Americans caught behind new york's great wall of tyranny?

The "assault weapon" ban is null.
Magazine limits are null.
And the Supreme Court upheld (again) that it is our Right to carry for defense.
 
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i see this has gotten lost in the chaff of heil hochul's unConstitutional and illegal behavior.

So what do these rulings mean for Americans caught behind new york's great wall of tyranny?

The "assault weapon" ban is null.
Magazine limits are null.
And the Supreme Court upheld (again) that it is our Right to carry for defense.
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It means that in those areas (9th 3rd and 4th respectively) magazine bans and awb are to be ruled unconstitutional.

This has no immediate impact on NY (2nd Circuit) but it is going to set legal precedent for future litigation in other areas, like here in NY
 
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Glock_USA said:
Doesn't work that way. The complaint is you were suspicious. The pat down is completely constitutional. Its been upheld over and over. Any encounter. Pat pat pat. No weapon, no problem. Again, its not a search.
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After reading your posts you seem familiar, the NYGF member that you remind me of that seemed to disappear from here had "USA" in his username too.
 
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posted this question in another related thread ..

okay .. the SCOTUS made up Qualified Immunity for LEO ... correct ? they cant be there when shit happens .. persay ..

if yes ..

then the governor and staff have no protection .. its only for LEO

the Governor has no duty to protects us (people) .. just protect the State from the other states that boarder NY that want to infringe on NY

i added a bit more then my other post ..

hay Gov .. if you really want to protect the people of NY and keep us safe .. ban winter in Erie County ..
 
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So my wife and I travel for business and stay at motels. If the motel doesn't have a "permission sign" we're not allowed to have a firearm at that location. Going to be even more interesting for women who travel alone. Think I'll identify as the NY governor and request NYSP armed guards outside all night.
 
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Bigfoot said:
This 2A Supreme Court decision really brought out the tyrant in FUKH.
Her mask is completely off now. She has exposed herself as a traitor to our Constitution.
The enemy of free people.

FUKH
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and brought out more then just her .. hello Elected Sheriffs .. hello Elected local judges .. that will obey her ..
 
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The NY/CA overreaction might actually be a good thing in the long run.

If we can get this back to SCOTUS while we've still got the same 5 justices we could get a ruling that you can't restrict firearm ownership anywhere you don't actually have controlled access (i.e. metal detectors and guards) because otherwise you are arbitrarily restricting the rights of the law abiding people while doing nothing at all to prevent criminals from bringing in guns.
 
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spat said:
The NY/CA overreaction might actually be a good thing in the long run.

If we can get this back to SCOTUS while we've still got the same 5 justices we could get a ruling that you can't restrict firearm ownership anywhere you don't actually have controlled access (i.e. metal detectors and guards) because otherwise you are arbitrarily restricting the rights of the law abiding people while doing nothing at all to prevent criminals from bringing in guns.
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An injunction in the meantime would be great, but who is pursuing action?
 
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spat said:
The NY/CA overreaction might actually be a good thing in the long run.

If we can get this back to SCOTUS while we've still got the same 5 justices we could get a ruling that you can't restrict firearm ownership anywhere you don't actually have controlled access (i.e. metal detectors and guards) because otherwise you are arbitrarily restricting the rights of the law abiding people while doing nothing at all to prevent criminals from bringing in guns.
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This, I think is the general consensus among the armed. It's a question of who will be taking one (or taking several, or many?) for the team in order to facilitate the SC showdown.
 
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