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Hi everyone, I'm a LI guy so I don't really post here but I owe it to OFT to tell everyone how great that class was.

I've never trained with a carbine before and they really went out of their way to get me up to speed. I've only ever bench shot these and by the end of the day I got really comfortable with actually using the gun for.

Thanks OFT. Awesome class. Thank you.
 
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Doc8404 said:
Nothing like LEO having to get private training.
Makes me feel safer.
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Thankfully there are those out there that realize they need it, or realize that they are NOT getting what they need from their employers.
Sadly even they will tell you for every ONE of them that makes the effort to train outside of the job, there are hundreds that think they will never need it.
 
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Lol, ouch! This fall I plan to get some training in, proly at Pittsburg. Hopefully I will be less fat by then.
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We have two classes coming up in Pittsburgh, Carbine on Sept 2, and Shotgun on Sept 3.
Both are selling well so if you want in get on it now.
Both are very fun classes to teach, but I tend to really enjoy the shotgun class the most. Lots of destruction in that class!


SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 2, 2017 – DEFENSIVE CARBINE – Pittsburgh, PA - $125
http://oftllc.us/event/defensive-carbine-5/


SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 3, 2017 – DEFENSIVE SHOTGUN – Pittsburgh, PA - $125

http://oftllc.us/event/defensive-shotgun-10/
 
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OnSight Firearms Training said:
Hardest part for most people is getting off the couch and getting to the class!
If you want it, you can get it.
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For me its finding the time off the road. I get 4 days off for 4 weeks on the road. Right now that means my time off comes in the middle of the month. I could use vacation time though. Also what gear would I need? Right now I have none but am planning on getting a basic chest rig and some belt stuff soon.
 
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Yeah I just checked it out. The timing is out but I might have to jump on this. It would be really awesome to see fellow forum members in Pittsburg.
 
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For me its finding the time off the road. I get 4 days off for 4 weeks on the road. Right now that means my time off comes in the middle of the month. I could use vacation time though. Also what gear would I need? Right now I have none but am planning on getting a basic chest rig and some belt stuff soon.
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Don't get hung up on gear. Seriously. Unless you PLAN on running plate carriers and chest rigs when the SHTF at home. For me personally, I am not LE or MIL so I run my rifle with a sling, mags stuffed in my side pockets in my cargo shorts or pants. When all hell breaks loose at 4am what am I grabbing first? Probably the shotgun or a pistol, a rifle if I can. Thinking I will have time to "suit up", isn't realistic for me.
Granted as mentioned above we do get a lot of LE and Corrections, as well as MIL and MIL RES. in our classes, and while I encourage them to run their gear as they would "normally run it" (Duty Belts, Chest rigs, etc.) we teach from a civilian point of view. So for you, run it how you think it would be in your everyday life.
Think about it this way. Whats more important? Spending your focus on getting a chest rig / plate carrier/ thigh rig/ etc. or learning how to run your rifle/shotgun/pistol with the bare essentials?
 
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I'd prefer to avoid stuffing mags in pockets if at all possible, also if roused out of bed I'll have nothing on but my boxers. That's what I've been trying to figure out, what gear I should get. I don't want to look out of place, nor like a mall ninja. Sounds like a belt with a pouch for an AR mag and a pouch for a pistol mag or two will suffice for this class then? That's eminently doable. Also I see this is listed as an "intermediate" class (carbine). I have basic Army marksmanship training but I was Artillery so nothing advanced small arms wise. I have no training whatsoever with a pistol. Would I be adequately prepared for this course?
 
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I'd prefer to avoid stuffing mags in pockets if at all possible, also if roused out of bed I'll have nothing on but my boxers. That's what I've been trying to figure out, what gear I should get. I don't want to look out of place, nor like a mall ninja. Sounds like a belt with a pouch for an AR mag and a pouch for a pistol mag or two will suffice for this class then? That's eminently doable. Also I see this is listed as an "intermediate" class (carbine). I have basic Army marksmanship training but I was Artillery so nothing advanced small arms wise. I have no training whatsoever with a pistol. Would I be adequately prepared for this course?
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You'll be fine. you know what end to not point at yourself I hope, so you will do OK. When we say "intermediate", it means this isnt your FIRST TIME EVER holding a rifle. Strange as it might sound, some people come into class with a brand new firearm, never fired before and zero experience with it.
Fine by me, but we pace all our classes based on the most inexperienced person in the class. Whatever speed we go at is the speed of the day. No arguments.
As for your gear, like I said, whatever you think will be what you have/grab when the SHTF.
 
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You'll be fine. you know what end to not point at yourself I hope, so you will do OK. When we say "intermediate", it means this isnt your FIRST TIME EVER holding a rifle. Strange as it might sound, some people come into class with a brand new firearm, never fired before and zero experience with it.
Fine by me, but we pace all our classes based on the most inexperienced person in the class. Whatever speed we go at is the speed of the day. No arguments.
As for your gear, like I said, whatever you think will be what you have/grab when the SHTF.
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Ah, I see. I have put about 3,000 rounds through my current (and right now only) AR, it has proven itself very dependable so far. I think I will try to do this, I just need to shuffle my budget around for the necessary expenses. Is M855 acceptable for use?
 
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Ah, I see. I have put about 3,000 rounds through my current (and right now only) AR, it has proven itself very dependable so far. I think I will try to do this, I just need to shuffle my budget around for the necessary expenses. Is M855 acceptable for use?
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I'd prefer no green tip or tracer. Past that I'm good with whatever.
 
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Podmonkey said:
I'd prefer to avoid stuffing mags in pockets if at all possible, also if roused out of bed I'll have nothing on but my boxers. That's what I've been trying to figure out, what gear I should get.
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Speedos hold mags better .. nice tight fit .. , they don't fall out ,.. nor your junk .. LMAO ..

wish i could do this stuff .. damn COPD , i'm not on O2 yet but doing this stuff i'd need a pack with O2 bottles LOL ..
 
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I wish there were more classes in upstate NY. I understand the market probably isn't strong enough to warrant many classes. It seems like whenever MDTS has a class is a bad weekend for me. I've been kicking around the idea of making the trip to Sig academy.
 
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I just reserved a spot for the September 2nd Carbine class. I'll order up a can of suitable ammo shortly. It sounds like a gunbelt with some rifle/pistol pouches will be adequate for the class so thats what I'll get. I was going to get some gear anyway so I may as well get it now. Looking forward to this, I've never had any firearms training beyond basic military marksmanship. And the general farting around called "familiarization training".

Update: Belt, pouches and 1000 rounds of IMI 55gr goodness inbound now.
 
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