Ontario Moves ahead with 25% Tariff on electricity

[stokes]

 

[Grimscale]

4 hours later... Just kidding.

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And headlines in the daily rags reads "Trump backs off on threat to Canada".

 

[spat]

And headlines in the daily rags reads "Trump backs off on threat to Canada".

Trump could cure cancer and most of the headlines would read "Trump puts thousands of oncologists out of work".

 

[Saltwater60]

My crappy county executive was saying today it will increase our electric bills by $69.00 per month. Of course he said he’s trying to confirm it and has reached out to others to verify. He’s a liar and this is surely for political gain no one’s electrical bill is $400 per month because you have to factor in taxes, surcharges, and delivery fees.

 

[Grimscale]

no one’s electrical bill is $400 per month because you have to factor in taxes, surcharges, and delivery fees.

My friend regularly pays around $400/mo. But EVERYTHING in his house is electric including the water heater and geothermal system.

In the summer I regularly top $300 due to A/C use.

 

[spat]

My friend regularly pays around $400/mo. But EVERYTHING in his house is electric including the water heater and geothermal system.

In the summer I regularly top $300 due to A/C use.

Wow, ours wasn't even close to that before the solar.

And we're electric everything.

We get there now between the payments on the solar and the electric bill, but that's also covering all our transportation too.

 

[Old Jalopy]

Well, at least it's going into warmer weather. Our bill usually runs close to $400 a month in the colder months, and has since 8 years ago when we lived in a city. New place is a brand-new energy efficient home and still ran that much. Fridge, freezer, electronics, hot water tank, furnace, and the dryer.
YAY! Gas pumps are still killing us, food prices are outrageous, and now this. Wait and see are the famous last words of many disastrous experiments. Ya know, like Obama's health care system, Biden's everything, Covid.... The rich don't care about this because they have money, people like myself are going to suffer, and those in a really low economical way are screwed. Not saying give in, but this new group in the WH sure as shit aren't doing anything to help the middle and lower class. I'm feeling severe deja vu where I should be feeling relief.

 

[libertysnake]

Well, at least it's going into warmer weather. Our bill usually runs close to $400 a month in the colder months, and has since 8 years ago when we lived in a city. New place is a brand-new energy efficient home and still ran that much. Fridge, freezer, electronics, hot water tank, furnace, and the dryer.
YAY! Gas pumps are still killing us, food prices are outrageous, and now this. Wait and see are the famous last words of many disastrous experiments. Ya know, like Obama's health care system, Biden's everything, Covid.... The rich don't care about this because they have money, people like myself are going to suffer, and those in a really low economical way are screwed. Not saying give in, but this new group in the WH sure as shit aren't doing anything to help the middle and lower class. I'm feeling severe deja vu where I should be feeling relief.

If Trump came out and said "The money we collect on tariffs from foreign goods will be used to subsidize Americans that would be subject to tariffs from other countries," then I'd feel more confident in this bullshit game he is playing. But he's not saying that. For all I know the plan is for Trump is going to have the government pocket that money and not use the incoming tariff money we're making to help out ordinary people. It's a tax we're having to pay essentially without any benefit.

I've seen ZERO concern for how he is going to offset the pain to regular people.

 

[Old Jalopy]

If Trump came out and said "The money we collect on tariffs from foreign goods will be used to subsidize Americans that would be subject to tariffs from other countries," then I'd feel more confident in this bullshit game he is playing. But he's not saying that. For all I know the plan is for Trump is going to have the government pocket that money and not use the incoming tariff money we're making to help out ordinary people. It's a tax we're having to pay essentially without any benefit.

I've seen ZERO concern for how he is going to offset the pain to regular people.

That's my issue. Last run, he was trying and did right by America as a whole. This time, he's forgetting the people who turned away from the left and voted for him because they needed relief from price gouging and a severely high cost of living, especially in states like NY where the cost of living is already hard to deal with for many people. We need the economy to lower and stabilize, not keep increasing. Part of what is/was killing the US is the extremely high cost of living. We would not have survived another 4 years of Bidenomics, and Trumponomics isn't looking better. Hell, with the 300% increase last month because of these tariffs, I am barely affording my heart and other medications. I simply don't see this going well for anyone not making 6 figures.

 

[holdover]

Trump knows we can outlast them ,just a mattter of time . By the time trump is done with them well be making money on the trade.

 

[holdover]

If Trump came out and said "The money we collect on tariffs from foreign goods will be used to subsidize Americans that would be subject to tariffs from other countries," then I'd feel more confident in this bullshit game he is playing. But he's not saying that. For all I know the plan is for Trump is going to have the government pocket that money and not use the incoming tariff money we're making to help out ordinary people. It's a tax we're having to pay essentially without any benefit.

I've seen ZERO concern for how he is going to offset the pain to regular people.

The tariffs are temporary, When the game is over, we will be in much better shape. could be a while though.