Orange County Amendment Time

[togmaster]

In Orange County, after you buy the handgun, you take:

- a copy of the receipt,
- an amendment form filled out on duplicate,
- A copy of your pistol permit,
- a stamped, self addressed envelope,
- and $5

to the pistol permit office (or mail it in).

The pistol permit office takes your stuff, and types up a green sheet of paper with the info on the gun you bought. They send the green sheet of paper to the permit issuing judge. The judge (presumably) reviews the information and makes an investigation and determination as to your good moral character and suitability to own another handgun ( ) -not really. The judge signs the green paper and sends it back to the pistol permit office. The pistol permit office then stuffs the green paper into the envelope you gave them and prints off a new copy of your permit and stuffs that in the envelope too. Then they wait 2 weeks and drop it in the mail.

In total the process has taken between 3 weeks and 3 months for me to be able to pick up a handgun I already paid for.

Wow I never thought there was anything worse than Westchester. In Westchester the process is exactly the same as yours only our amendment fee is $3 and the county pays for postage to mail your amendment and new permit back to you. We save a whole $2.55 on the process. I guess paying the the highest property taxes in the state actually gets you something.

 

[Robin]

Here, you can buy a handful or more of those purchase coupons(?) and carry them in your wallet. When you, by chance, happen on the deal of the century at the other end of the state, you buy the gun, give them one of your coupons, take the gun with you, and when you get home, run over to the county clerk and add it to your permit. Still a pain in the ass, just to exercise a "right", but better than most of the rest of the state I guess.
Robin

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Here, you can buy a handful or more of those purchase coupons(?) and carry them in your wallet. When you, by chance, happen on the deal of the century at the other end of the state, you buy the gun, give them one of your coupons, take the gun with you, and when you get home, run over to the county clerk and add it to your permit. Still a pain in the ass, just to exercise a "right", but better than most of the rest of the state I guess.
Robin

Never thought about asking about that. Good idea.

 

[beebee]

That is absolutely sickening.. despicable...
Bastard leftist radical gun grabbing judges playing God, and amending the Constitution on the fly to suit his own whims...
I HATE NY.... bob

 

[kev74]

That is absolutely sickening.. despicable...
Bastard leftist radical gun grabbing judges playing God, and amending the Constitution on the fly to suit his own whims...
I HATE NY.... bob

Its not the judges. Its the County Clerk and Sheriff.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Its not the judges. Its the County Clerk and Sheriff.

No it is the fucking POS judge thinking they have to sign off on everything..

Shit like this is what I cant stand, almost defending the judge who is in the wrong

 

[kev74]

No it is the fucking POS judge thinking they have to sign off on everything..

Shit like this is what I cant stand, almost defending the judge who is in the wrong

No. Its the fault of the Clerk and Sheriff that Ulster and Sullivan counties had to modify their system. Orange county's sheriff is a power hungry cock sucker who lets his cock sucking under-sheriff screw up everything he touches.

I've heard from 3 instructors for the mandatory class to get a pistol permit that the sheriff's office has threatened to pull their certification to give the class because they were diverting too much revenue from the sheriff's office - who also teaches the class.

Both our clerk and sheriff are republicans who will tell everyone who listens about how pro-2A they are, but do everything they can to artificially throttle the permit and amendment process. In Orange County, it takes over 2 months to get an appointment to hand in your pistol permit application. 2 MONTHS WAIT JUST TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION!!! That's not the judges fault.

In Ulster and Sullivan, the judges were ok with having their names stamped. As a result of some of the biggest assholes in Orange Co., the state stepped in and told the judges they couldn't authorize others to stamp their signatures. That's also not the judges fault.

Yes the whole process is a stupid, unconstitutional mess, but at least the judges in place now aren't arbitrarily making things worse.

 

[beebee]

Thank you gentlemen for enlightening me.. I had no idea, and I am SO sorry for what those SOB's down there put you through to buy a damn gun... Right now I feel like that proverbial guy that cried because he had no shoes, until he saw the guy who had no feet.

I imagine i should be thankful for where I am living at in this leftist state..
This is dairy farm country in the Finger Lakes region, and in much of it, 2A is still upheld.. Just 20 minutes up the road is Tompkins County where radical leftist heaven Ithaca is.. There in that county, its NO issue pretty much.. They do NOT issue permits, period, and you can't even buy a pistol in the county even with permit as far as I know.

I will think about you guys when I start to bitch about my 2A problems here in NY ... bob

 

[Edwardteach72]

Tompkins County where radical leftist heaven Ithaca is.. There in that county, its NO issue pretty much.. They do NOT issue permits, period, and you can't even buy a pistol in the county even with permit as far as I know.

Are you sure about that. Sounds like a made up claim with no evidence

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Found this, for whatever it's worth.

Pistol Permits | www.tompkinscountyny.gov

tompkinscountyny.gov

 

[beebee]

Are you sure about that. Sounds like a made up claim with no evidence

Ok, let me clarify... You certainly can APPLY, but they do not ever issue them unless you qualify under LEOSO or know someone in The Sheriffs dept VERY well .. Been here 30 years, and its always been that way.. Years ago, I was told by longtime gun owners that its not worth even trying as they haven't issued them for decades.. Its not totally impossible just as NYC is not totally impossible.. The only folks I know that have permits from Tompkins are old timers that have had permits for many decades..
Ithaca when i moved here in 1991 had an avowed Communist mayor,, His name was Ben Nichols, and his party affiliation was The Socialist Workers Party of America.. THATS the kind of governance the people of Ithaca and Tompkins county demand.. If you don't know Ithaca, you have NO idea how radical leftist a 2 college city can be,,, Home of Cornell University and Ithaca College... I drove a school bus in Ithaca for years.. System was full of Communists.Socialists.. Thats the way they like it.. So yeah, they might SAY on paper you can apply, just as NJ and NYC do.. however thats as far as it ever gets for anyone... bob

 

[Edwardteach72]

Ok, let me clarify... You certainly can APPLY, but they do not ever issue them unless you qualify under LEOSO or know someone in The Sheriffs dept VERY well .. Been here 30 years, and its always been that way.. Years ago, I was told by longtime gun owners that its not worth even trying as they haven't issued them for decades.. Its not totally impossible just as NYC is not totally impossible.. The only folks I know that have permits from Tompkins are old timers that have had permits for many decades..
Ithaca when i moved here in 1991 had an avowed Communist mayor,, His name was Ben Nichols, and his party affiliation was The Socialist Workers Party of America.. THATS the kind of governance the people of Ithaca and Tompkins county demand.. If you don't know Ithaca, you have NO idea how radical leftist a 2 college city can be,,, Home of Cornell University and Ithaca College... I drove a school bus in Ithaca for years.. System was full of Communists.Socialists.. Thats the way they like it.. So yeah, they might SAY on paper you can apply, just as NJ and NYC do.. however thats as far as it ever gets for anyone... bob

Really so no one gets any permits in Thompson county. Again sounds like fudd lore with no evidence

 

[Edwardteach72]

Hahaha if I dont know Ithaca ok boomer

 

[beebee]

Really so no one gets any permits in Thompson county. Again sounds like fudd lore with no evidence

Look, I worked there for decades... My son lived there as well, and was never able to get a permit there, and all my friends and aquaintences had the same experience.. Applied, and were reject because of "insufficient reason " or something vague in that manner. People move out like my son and have permits in hand within 8-9 months, after failing for years in Tompkins..
Positive written proof?.. No, I can't supply a link with an official statement from the county.. It doesn't exist, just as it does not exist in NJ/NYC, Md, but try and get a permit there.. All I can say is the sheriff there was endorsed for election by a radical leftist political entity called the Tompkins County Progressives, rabid gun grabbers all... You have NO idea how bad Ithaca/Tompkins County is for gun ownership unless you live here in this area... bob

 

[beebee]

Look, I worked there for decades, my whole life was there for 25 years... My son lived there as well, and was never able to get a permit there, and all my friends and aquaintences had the same experience.. Applied, and were reject because of "insufficient reason " or something vague in that manner. People move out like my son and have permits in hand within 8-9 months, after failing for years in Tompkins..
Positive written proof?.. No, I can't supply a link with an official statement from the county.. It doesn't exist, just as it does not exist in NJ/NYC, Md, but try and get a permit there.. All I can say is the sheriff there was endorsed for election by a radical leftist political entity called the Tompkins County Progressives, rabid gun grabbers all... You have NO idea how bad Ithaca/Tompkins County is for gun ownership unless you live here in this area... bob

 

[tlj000]

Lets not change the subject of this thread.
When you receive your amended permit, post how long it took and what judge signed it.
I think its a good thread just so OC residents have idea what kind of wait they are in for.

 

[beebee]

Lets not change the subject of this thread.
When you receive your amended permit, post how long it took and what judge signed it.
I think its a good thread just so OC residents have idea what kind of wait they are in for.

Understood, my apologies for going off topic...bob

 

[Edwardteach72]

Look, I worked there for decades... My son lived there as well, and was never able to get a permit there, and all my friends and aquaintences had the same experience.. Applied, and were reject because of "insufficient reason " or something vague in that manner. People move out like my son and have permits in hand within 8-9 months, after failing for years in Tompkins..
Positive written proof?.. No, I can't supply a link with an official statement from the county.. It doesn't exist, just as it does not exist in NJ/NYC, Md, but try and get a permit there.. All I can say is the sheriff there was endorsed for election by a radical leftist political entity called the Tompkins County Progressives, rabid gun grabbers all... You have NO idea how bad Ithaca/Tompkins County is for gun ownership unless you live here in this area... bob

Your right it's not like my buddy got his in Thompson county in 3 months oh wait yes yes he did

 

[Edwardteach72]

So move along boomer, stop spreading fudd lore

 

[beebee]

So move along boomer, stop spreading fudd lore

ok you win, you're the expert-

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[Edwardteach72]

ok you win, you're the expert-

Creating a NY pistol permit map

I'm creating a pistol permit map, but I don't know the relative difficulty in obtaining a "full" carry license with no restrictions in all the counties. I've filled in the map with the counties I know. I'll keep updating this map if people let me know what each county should be. Please go from...

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Claim you "its I'm possible to get a license in Thompson county"

Me "no its not"

You "yes it is me and my son couldnt get one"

Me knowing easily half a dozen people with their license in Thompson county... yup sure impossible

 

[kev74]

3 weeks and 1 day for this one.

 

[tlj000]

3 weeks and 1 day for this one.

That's funny. I dropped one off 3 weeks and 1 day ago. (1/14) who is your Judge? I'm waiting on Freehill.

 

[kev74]

That's funny. I dropped one off 3 weeks and 1 day ago. (1/14) who is your Judge? I'm waiting on Freehill.

Judge Brown.

 

[Eddie73]

Got mine today. 2 and a half weeks. Judge Brown

 

[tlj000]

Hand delivered to clerks office 1/14
Signed by Judge Freehill 2/3
7 more days for a self address postage paid envelope to go 6 miles to my house.
4 weeks to have a piece of plastic updated.

 

[NYGuns]

6 weeks so far without my amendment. This is so f'ed up and ridiculous, either the County Clerk's are lazy or the Judges are lazy. Get your shit together OC!!! WTF

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

3 weeks, Light Weight Commander

 

[kev74]

6 weeks so far without my amendment. This is so f'ed up and ridiculous, either the County Clerk's are lazy or the Judges are lazy. Get your shit together OC!!! WTF

What did you do to piss them off? That's usually my job!

I don't think its laziness as much as a deliberate effort to throttle back permits and amendments.

 

[NYGuns]

What did you do to piss them off? That's usually my job!

I don't think its laziness as much as a deliberate effort to throttle back permits and amendments.

I honestly don't think it's an effort to throttle back permits an amendments. I used to have a friend that worked in the pistol permit office many moons ago. She constantly told me that the delays are always "the judges getting around to signing the amendments, then the office getting around to sending them.".

My neighbor must have pissed them off too, because he's on 5 weeks.