gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Virginia, Vermont.
Package Of Gun Reform Bills Passes NY Senate (merged with Assembly thread)
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Virginia, Vermont.
IMHO, NY state is a complete lost cause, and not just because of its' anti 2A laws. The business climate sucks. Taxes, taxes, and even more taxes. Corrupt politicians everywhere. Shitty roads and potholes. Cost of living. State surcharges on all kinds of things.
I got out after 60 years, and will never move back. Now, I hope my children will move out of NY someday. Leaving friends and family; closing my businesses; and leaving my home state that I loved was NOT easy. It was actually brutal. But my long term prospects improved, and my daily stress level dropped by at least 75%.
The older we get, the more ties that bind us, and the harder it is to make these kind of moves. My advice: GTFO now, if not sooner. To say NY state is toast is a gross understatement (ask comedian Rob Lederman about making comparisons to toast, and you'll know how fucked up this world is becoming). But, it is what it is.
Get out while you still can.
I got out after 60 years, and will never move back. Now, I hope my children will move out of NY someday. Leaving friends and family; closing my businesses; and leaving my home state that I loved was NOT easy. It was actually brutal. But my long term prospects improved, and my daily stress level dropped by at least 75%.
The older we get, the more ties that bind us, and the harder it is to make these kind of moves. My advice: GTFO now, if not sooner. To say NY state is toast is a gross understatement (ask comedian Rob Lederman about making comparisons to toast, and you'll know how fucked up this world is becoming). But, it is what it is.
Get out while you still can.
Totally agree. NY is a lost cause. It's unfixable.
NY residents have 3 realistic choices
-Stay in NY and comply with new laws
-Stay in NY and quietly non-comply with new laws just go about your business quietly as you morally see fit.
-Leave NY go to a free state and once there fight like hell to keep your rights.
drowhawk
.44 mag
I don't agree with the sentiment that NY is a lost cause. Why do you think they're so desperate to pass this stuff? They know the previous gun control measures are likely going to fall apart in the coming years if they get to SCOTUS. They're flinging shit to see what sticks- and that makes me happy. It's the sign of a desperate legislative body that feels its days are numbered. We should rejoice in these desperate attempts to beat the general population over the head with the submission stick.
I don't actually think NY is a totally lost cause.
If recent precedents hold true, once enough states reach a concensus on liberalized gun laws the Supreme Court will bring federal policy in line and the remaining hold out states will be forced into federal compliance. This is exactly how it has gone down with every civil liberty issue throughout the history of this nation. This will be a long process but we are seeing progress. Reciprocity will be the first thing to normalize when enough states pass Constitutional Carry laws. Then someone who is a valid plaintiff will have to bring suit against a hold out state, that state will rule against and the plaintiff will need to appeal up to the Supreme Court which will have to rule in favor. Then the blue states can suck our cocks.
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camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Sure sounds like the definition of insanity to me, making her mentally incompetent and unfit for her position.
Florida
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Yup, he is actively pro 2A so it's like singing to a choir. My state Senator is also pro 2A but still got an earful from me.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
the allowing to sue Mfgs will just bankrupt them..or like with mag limits....they all will just stop producing guns legal and can be sold in NY but making all standard capacity mags ONLY and more that 10..... they already sorta cater to us by making 10 round mags as we cant have the standard capacity mags!!!!
Bullcrap.........4 years out of this state!! its just crazy.
Bullcrap.........4 years out of this state!! its just crazy.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
I have a number of pro and antigun electeds following me.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It is harder when we get older. We would absolutely be looking right this moment (which is in fairly stark contrast to my posts on this topic even a year ago) but I really do not want to disrupt one of the kids for three more years, unfortunately. We're doing well here but wife's career is such that a move is becoming increasingly necessary if she wants to keep growing it. A colleague of hers with a lesser title makes massively more in another state with a lower cost of living.
My taxes are brutal and the public schools here can frankly go to hell. We've accelerated the timeline of getting our youngest into a private school. She's right at the part they are about to start lying to her about race and indoctrinating on lgbtqsiqusl+-!8whateverthefuck and I have no interest in that.
The issues with NY are way above its view on guns.
Virginia used to be solid red. No longer.
Florida has AWB bills in their state legislature.
Colorado has fallen.
Texas turning purple instead of solid red.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Which is why 2A activists and orgs must be involved with Democrat politics.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Here is the package.
Chicken Shoot
.45 acp
Really? How's federal immigration laws working out? NY and kalifornia REFUSE to follow ANY federal laws OR rulings. NY is pure shit and should be wiped off the fucking map by our military. Oh ... nevermind ... our military is too busy getting fucking sex changes and learning how to be social workers. Scratch that idea.
Chicken Shoot
.45 acp
I know .. last time I used it, it was deemed a weapon of mass destruction and I got a fuck trophy for it!! (kid)
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
when the Federal Government sends your governor a bail out (prints fiat money) to get the state finances in line, during a scamdemic, but the governor literally shrugs his shoulder and INCREASES state spending by 22%, THERE IS NO HOPE!
Gun laws are the very least of NY problems. All laws will be moot if the state is bankrupt. In 10 to 15 years, when 60% of your income goes to the state for "social programs" let me know how that works out for you.
I don't have the time, nor the inclination to sit around while everyone stomps there feet, yells "unconstitutional" and then sits around and pouts about your lot in life.
Im going to go get my RV, and I. AM. OUTA. HERE.
Gun laws are the very least of NY problems. All laws will be moot if the state is bankrupt. In 10 to 15 years, when 60% of your income goes to the state for "social programs" let me know how that works out for you.
I don't have the time, nor the inclination to sit around while everyone stomps there feet, yells "unconstitutional" and then sits around and pouts about your lot in life.
Im going to go get my RV, and I. AM. OUTA. HERE.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
It’s funny how they’re sending all these bills all of a sudden.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
No, session ends on Thursday.
The critical step is for a legitimate plaintiff to file a suit against the state. If someone can prove in court, after tge forgone ruling against in tge NY court, thar they are suffering damages or harm as a result of NY immigration policy it could go before the Supreme Court eventually. We have to fight for this stuff. It takes time and money and determination. Nothing is gonna fall into our laps. What we need to do is start investing our money into these kinds of local and then federal court battles. It's bound to be more productive then funding national lobbying organizations. We have lost our power and influence to the left because they built up from the grassroots level an have a powerful vertical power base now. We continue to do nothing but expect others to solve our problems.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
I respectfully disagree... I follow your thought process, but a 2a supporter has ZERO chance of winning any democrat primary. The demonrats are entrenched.
The good guys can win in NY. The key: SHOW UP TO STINKING VOTE! 40-60% of the good guys do NOT bother to vote. 80% show up we win!
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Yes sir, often, I have his personal cell number even!
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Doesn't have to be a solid 2A supporter. Being slightly less offensive than another candidate is good enough as along as you are honest about what you're telling people to do. Vote for Joe Dokes because he's less offensive his opponet.
Plus, I've had Manhattan democrats ask about endorsements before.
Plus, I've had Manhattan democrats ask about endorsements before.
So very true.... he did worse than shrug his shoulders though. He said we are entitled to the money and more.
I am thinking of retiring to an RV and travel!
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
To pass today is legislation that would allow those responsible for the sale, manufacture, importing or marketing of guns to be held liable for the public nuisance caused by such actions. The legislation complies with the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) as interpreted by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in City of New York v. Berretta USA Corps. The PLCAA has been used to shield the firearm industry from civil liability (A.6762-A, Fahy).
So basically being a gun company now makes you liable for the abject failure that is commucrat governance.......I get it. Common sense they say. Retardation I say........
So basically being a gun company now makes you liable for the abject failure that is commucrat governance.......I get it. Common sense they say. Retardation I say........
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
Pointless when your rep for your area is a Dem