PPQ and Glock dry fire musings

[Podmonkey]

So I'm bored, half watching some youtube video while dry firing my Glock. Then I went and got my PPQ out for shits and giggles.
Know what? The Gen 5 Glock trigger is not bad at all. In fact I think is pretty good. The main thing is the PPQ trigger is much lighter.
The PPQ hits the end of its first stage much further back than the Glock but I like the Glocks reset better than the PPQ's. With the PPQ after reset there is a little bit of travel back to the wall but on the Glock there is none and I like that.
The Glocks overall ergos feel like total ass in comparison though. And I have no idea why you never hear about the edgy, snaggy catastrophe that is the the Glock magwell. And the Gen 5 "flared" magwell does absolutely jack shit to help anything since it's the fore and aft sides of the magwell that have all the 90° edges the catch the magazine.
And what the hell is with this?!

What is that snagtastic little ledge for?
Speaking of snagtastic:

Look at that mess in there! All the hard edges!

Look at how smooth the PPQ is in comparison:

All smooth angles. No flare on the PPQ magwell, just a bit of subtle beveling is all that is needed. And that magazine is nice and slick too.

All said and done though, I can conceal the G19 pretty well under even just a loose T shirt and I shoot it better than the PPQ for some reason, even if it does feel like ass in the hand.
Big, blocky ass. And the magazines are almost 1/3 the cost as the PPQ's. I suppose the short, fat magazine and the resultant 2x4 grip of the Glock is what allows it to be just that critical bit more concealable than the PPQ.
And I wish Heine made their Straight 8 sights for the PPQ because I like them much better than the Trijicon HD sights I have on the Walther.

 

[Podmonkey]

Upon further consideration a major difference in the trigger feel is the PPQ has a much more defined separation between the initial take up, the wall and the break where the Glock is indeed, well, mushy. But frankly I think that could actually be an aid in rapid fire.

 

[71velle]

Perfection

 

[Podmonkey]

Perfection

"Glock Adequacy" is more apt.
"Glock, greater than the sum of its parts" is also descriptive

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm starting to be convinced that the awful Glock hump on the back of the grip that isn't the most comfortable is there for a reason. I too can shoot the Glock better than a 1911 and an XDS and a XDM Compact and a LC9.

 

[Podmonkey]

I'm starting to be convinced that the awful Glock hump on the back of the grip that isn't the most comfortable is there for a reason. I too can shoot the Glock better than a 1911 and an XDS and a XDM Compact and a LC9.

It's not the hump that if find bothersome, it's the squareness of the grip that makes it feel so unwieldy to me.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Have you seen the new bold marketing Walther has out. Buy a PPQ and if you dont like it in 30 days walther will buy it back full price...

Also you can even get up to $1,000 pre auth on your CC they give you a voucher for what ever walther you want up to well 1,000 if you like it after 30 days they charge your cc if you sont you can return it for a full refund

 

[FLA45fan]

Have you seen the new bold marketing Walther has out. Buy a PPQ and if you dont like it in 30 days walther will buy it back full price...

Also you can even get up to $1,000 pre auth on your CC they give you a voucher for what ever walther you want up to well 1,000 if you like it after 30 days they charge your cc if you sont you can return it for a full refund

?!?!?!?!!!!!
News to me on the PPQ
I have been fingering a bunch of guns since starting back to work. Glocks, XDs, Canik (surprisingly nice triggers), HKs, Sigs, Walthers . . . Best ergonomics for me was the PPQ. Absolutely love the trigger, great reset. Q5 Match has been in my hand dozens of times. Our local Sheriff's department is currently transitioning to Walthers as we speak.
Originally I had plans for a second G19 at some point in time and to reward myself with a Wilson Combat Beretta . . . Almost put a PPQ on hold the other day, but a Beretta Elite LTT (almost identical to the Wilson) showed up and at half the cost I poached it. On layaway now.
But those PPQs . . . Damn!

 

[Podmonkey]

Have you seen the new bold marketing Walther has out. Buy a PPQ and if you dont like it in 30 days walther will buy it back full price...

Also you can even get up to $1,000 pre auth on your CC they give you a voucher for what ever walther you want up to well 1,000 if you like it after 30 days they charge your cc if you sont you can return it for a full refund

That's a pretty safe maneuver actually. I can't see anyone actually disliking the PPQ.

?!?!?!?!!!!!
News to me on the PPQ
I have been fingering a bunch of guns since starting back to work. Glocks, XDs, Canik (surprisingly nice triggers), HKs, Sigs, Walthers . . . Best ergonomics for me was the PPQ. Absolutely love the trigger, great reset. Q5 Match has been in my hand dozens of times. Our local Sheriff's department is currently transitioning to Walthers as we speak.
Originally I had plans for a second G19 at some point in time and to reward myself with a Wilson Combat Beretta . . . Almost put a PPQ on hold the other day, but a Beretta Elite LTT (almost identical to the Wilson) showed up and at half the cost I poached it. On layaway now.
But those PPQs . . . Damn!

You got a Langdon Tactical Beretta? You lucky so and so.

 

[Edwardteach72]

?!?!?!?!!!!!
News to me on the PPQ
I have been fingering a bunch of guns since starting back to work. Glocks, XDs, Canik (surprisingly nice triggers), HKs, Sigs, Walthers . . . Best ergonomics for me was the PPQ. Absolutely love the trigger, great reset. Q5 Match has been in my hand dozens of times. Our local Sheriff's department is currently transitioning to Walthers as we speak.
Originally I had plans for a second G19 at some point in time and to reward myself with a Wilson Combat Beretta . . . Almost put a PPQ on hold the other day, but a Beretta Elite LTT (almost identical to the Wilson) showed up and at half the cost I poached it. On layaway now.
But those PPQs . . . Damn!

Walther Firearms

 

[Podmonkey]

When I heard Walther was making the PPK again I was hopeful maybe they would do it in 9mm Parabellum, but nope.

 

[Edwardteach72]

When I heard Walther was making the PPK again I was hopeful maybe they would do it in 9mm Parabellum, but nope.

Wait they are?

 

[Podmonkey]

Wait they are?

Yes, it's right on their website you goof.


It's a beefy little gun, why not do it in 9mm now?
I gots no use for a .380.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes, it's right on their website you goof.


It's a beefy little gun, why not do it in 9mm now?
I gots no use for a .380.

I get why they did .380 in the beginning but to reintroduce it but should in 9mm

 

[71velle]

I'm starting to be convinced that the awful Glock hump on the back of the grip that isn't the most comfortable is there for a reason. I too can shoot the Glock better than a 1911 and an XDS and a XDM Compact and a LC9.

I think there is something wrong with your 1911....

 

[FLA45fan]

That's a pretty safe maneuver actually. I can't see anyone actually disliking the PPQ.

You got a Langdon Tactical Beretta? You lucky so and so.

Yeah you and I have been thinking about the Wilson, and frankly, I didn't even know about the Langdon. When I saw it . . .

 

[Catskillkid]

Yes, it's right on their website you goof.


It's a beefy little gun, why not do it in 9mm now?
I gots no use for a .380.

Maybe it's because of James Bond but I always thought the PPK was a cool looking gun. Main reason I haven't tried to get one is that I really don't want to own a gun in .380. Mainly because I don't want to have to buy another caliber but also because I think it's far inferior to the 9mm.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Maybe it's because of James Bond but I always thought the PPK was a cool looking gun. Main reason I haven't tried to get one is that I really don't want to own a gun in .380. Mainly because I don't want to have to buy another caliber but also because I think it's far inferior to the 9mm.

And its because of James bond I want one in .32acp

 

[Edwardteach72]

Never mind I am wrong his original gun was a Beretta in 25acp

 

[Podmonkey]

Never mind I am wrong his original gun was a Beretta in 25acp

M forced 007 to switch to the PPK.

 

[MikeyCNY]

Perfection

I posted this last year when the Gen5 was announced: