Predictions on the upcoming presidential election

Who do you think will win the presidential election? Honest belief, not wishful thinking.

  • Donald Trump

  • Joe Biden

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I was watching Jeopardy this evening and saw a NYS sponsored commercial telling me to vote! I don’t ever remember seeing anything like this. What a waste of money.
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You shouldn't need a taxpayer funded ad campaign to get people to do their civic duty. Vote or don't vote. Half of these idiots didn't give a shit until all the ads where in their face. Frankly they are the last people who should be voting.

And don't even get me started on the stupid ass "I Voted" stickers.
 
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I am not going to give specific dates for fear of FUACs gestapo demanding papers,

But,

My personal observations after a road trip are encouraging. 2 very important states trump needs to win PA and NC in my estimation I saw a ratio of 10:1 trump to biden signs, decorations, billboards etc. All up And down I-79 and I-77 lots of love for trump.

From my own personal observations I saw a lot of enthusiasm for Trump.

My opinion is those voting for biden aren't going to vote for biden because they like him, they'll vote for him as a vote against trump

I Counted at least 5+ old tractor trailers parked on someone's property near the interstate either spray painted something pro trump or had a large billboard sized sign hanging on it.

For what it's worth it was mostly rural/suburban area not urban. So it should in fairness be expected to be trump territory.

(I think I saw maybe 1 or 2 biden signs in all of WV.). well done WV.

But none the less I wanted to share my observations that there is a lot of enthusiasm out there.
 
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MothMan said:
bigleaguepolitics.com

USC Experimental Model Polling Calculation Forecasts Donald Trump Election Victory - Big League Politics

They're accounting for what they call social desirability bias.
bigleaguepolitics.com bigleaguepolitics.com
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what’s so interesting is that a lot on the left and right both are supremely confident the other side is wrong and will lose. I’ve seen projections of Biden getting 400 electoral. And others that say trump wins.

half the country will need to come to terms with the source of their information and why they were so far off.

fake news abounds and is worse every year.
 
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Blimey said:
what’s so interesting is that a lot on the left and right both are supremely confident the other side is wrong and will lose. I’ve seen projections of Biden getting 400 electoral. And others that say trump wins.

half the country will need to come to terms with the source of their information and why they were so far off.

fake news abounds and is worse every year.
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That is where the danger comes in.

When people believe their candidate is guaranteed to win, and then they don't, they aren't willing to accept that their worldview was wrong (cough cough Hillary cough). They immediately jump to "there must have been foul play".

When people no longer trust the integrity of the election process they stop trusting in the legitimacy of their government.

Right now the disaster is confined to the inner cities, but it may not stay that way.
 
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I'm just floored that ANY gun owner would vote for Biden. I explained to my office mates today that women's rights are important. Gay rights are important. But neither of these effect me. Gun rights are my gay rights and my right to choose. I understand why people vote the way they do, but don't dictate how I should vote because you think your cause is more important than mine. Biden taking your guns away will directly effect you orders of magnitude more than anyone's tax, immigration, equality, or choice policies will. THAT'S what should be influencing your vote. I'd like to be altruistic, but not at the expense of my right to protect myself and my family and my way of life. Biden and Harris can suck it.
 
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I'm just floored that ANY gun owner would vote for Biden. I explained to my office mates today that women's rights are important. Gay rights are important. But neither of these effect me. Gun rights are my gay rights and my right to choose. I understand why people vote the way they do, but don't dictate how I should vote because you think your cause is more important than mine. Biden taking your guns away will directly effect you orders of magnitude more than anyone's tax, immigration, equality, or choice policies will. THAT'S what should be influencing your vote. I'd like to be altruistic, but not at the expense of my right to protect myself and my family and my way of life. Biden and Harris can suck it.
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Trump has done more for gays and other minorities than any other president in decades.

The man is halfway to "peace in the middle east" for God's sakes.

If you think Biden/Harris will be better for *any American* outside the beltway you are delusional.
 
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spat said:
We all know that on a per acre basis the US is overwhelming pro Trump, like 95% or better.

The election map on a per precinct basis is going to be a sea of red with a couple speckles of blue.

But for every pro Trump 1000 acre farm with 5 people living there, there is an apartment building in some shithole inner city with 500 biden supporters living in it that don't own any property to even put a sign on.

We never should have gotten rid of that "only landowners can vote" thing.
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Aye.
 
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spat said:
That is where the danger comes in.

When people believe their candidate is guaranteed to win, and then they don't, they aren't willing to accept that their worldview was wrong (cough cough Hillary cough). They immediately jump to "there must have been foul play".

When people no longer trust the integrity of the election process they stop trusting in the legitimacy of their government.

Right now the disaster is confined to the inner cities, but it may not stay that way.
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Yes. One of the reasons Hitler rose to power was the idea that German armed forces did not lose in the battlefield in world war one. Instead, germany was "stabbed in the back" by those in charge back in berlin (particularly jews).

I have seen people confident in a strong biden victory and those confident in a strong trump victory. One of those camps is going to be wrong, and will look for excuses, conspiracies or any rationalization instead of accepting the fact their candidate lost. If credible charges of significant voter fraud are added to the mix there will be a segment of the country that will never accept the results.

I don't know exactly what happens after that, but it can't be anything good.
 
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Yes. One of the reasons Hitler rose to power was the idea that German armed forces did not lose in the battlefield in world war one. Instead, germany was "stabbed in the back" by those in charge back in berlin (particularly jews).

I have seen people confident in a strong biden victory and those confident in a strong trump victory. One of those camps is going to be wrong, and will look for excuses, conspiracies or any rationalization instead of accepting the fact their candidate lost. If credible charges of significant voter fraud are added to the mix there will be a segment of the country that will never accept the results.

I don't know exactly what happens after that, but it can't be anything good.
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That is the real danger of all this mail in voting.

It doesn’t even matter if you don't have any fraud, unless you can *prove* you don’t have fraud to the satisfaction of the losers.

That ain't gonna happen here.
 
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I don’t know anyone who is voting for Biden. But then again I live and work in a bubble for the most part. All my friends and co-workers are conservatives. But there are a lot of Dems in this country. And a lot of left leaning kids. Unless every poll is dead wrong- it looks like we will have President Kamala Harris.
 
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Justincase said:
I'm just floored that ANY gun owner would vote for Biden. I explained to my office mates today that women's rights are important. Gay rights are important. But neither of these effect me. Gun rights are my gay rights and my right to choose. I understand why people vote the way they do, but don't dictate how I should vote because you think your cause is more important than mine. Biden taking your guns away will directly effect you orders of magnitude more than anyone's tax, immigration, equality, or choice policies will. THAT'S what should be influencing your vote. I'd like to be altruistic, but not at the expense of my right to protect myself and my family and my way of life. Biden and Harris can suck it.
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The funny thing is though, no one, not even Trump is going after the gay deviants or Woman's Rights. Neither of those are on the table, anywhere.

BTW, sucking a baby through a medical vacuum is not a woman right. They, those on the left, want to confuse the two, but they are separate issues.
 
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I don’t know anyone who is voting for Biden. But then again I live and work in a bubble for the most part. All my friends and co-workers are conservatives. But there are a lot of Dems in this country. And a lot of left leaning kids. Unless every poll is dead wrong- it looks like we will have President Kamala Harris.
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I was speaking with a co-worker yesterday and he informed me that he is voting for Biden. We had a really good and honest conversation about his bad choice.

In the end, I let it be known, if Biden wins, my ope is that all that voted for him lose everything they have. I wished upon him and his people that my hope would be that their taxes shoot up, they loose their homes and their jobs. I wished that their children would be forced to go to schools filled with the city poor. I told him that I my hope would be that they would all lose their investments and their retirement earnings.

I know, if this all happens to them, it happens to me as well. I am prepared for bad times, he is not.
 
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