President Trump threatens to pull money from sanctuary cities like Syracuse

Calculon · Jan 27, 2017

spat said:
More than half the people on this board are criminals. How many do you think still have a 10+ round magazine squirreled away somewhere ?

Criminal no longer means bad guy, you can thank your legislature for that.

Technically you probably were too, there was quite a while where the LEO exemption was not written into SAFE and was more of a "were not going to arrest each other" agreement.

If someone is caught with a 10+ magazine it's pretty certain they'll be prosecuted here in NY. Illegals in sanctuary cities get a pass - even the criminals are treated catch and release.

The uneven/whimsical application or enforcement of laws is one of the reasons Trump won. Are we a country ruled by laws so everyone is on a level playing field or do "officials" get to decide what laws to follow?

Defilade · Jan 27, 2017

Had an argument at work about the Illegals. Their position is that Sanctuary Cites are like modern day underground railroads. We are saving lives and improving lives. I asked how many has he invited to stay in his home? End of conversation.... That was easy.

Darth · Jan 27, 2017

Defilade said:
Had an argument at work about the Illegals. Their position is that Sanctuary Cites are like modern day underground railroads. We are saving lives and improving lives. I asked how many has he invited to stay in his home? End of conversation.... That was easy.

Modern day underground RRs? WTF?

Ask them if they could describe, in detail, the established legal process in place for a slave to become a free citizen. The process millions of legal immigrants to the US are familiar with.

There wasn't one?

Game over.

Mr. terzmo · Jan 27, 2017

Holding back the funds.....DeBloozio already stated that money would reduce Police protection...He acts just like any School Board when a budget doesn't get passed,they threaten to curtail bussing..

Mr. terzmo · Jan 27, 2017

Defilade said:
Had an argument at work about the Illegals. Their position is that Sanctuary Cites are like modern day underground railroads. We are saving lives and improving lives. I asked how many has he invited to stay in his home? End of conversation.... That was easy.

Poor analogy as slavery was not legal in the Northern States...Undocumented are illegally in the Country...they are Breaking the law and their supporters don't understand or want to, they are to be punished, as ANYONE who breaks the law. How about sanctuary cities for rapists...child molestors...murderers...whatever...it's the same as they all are breaking the law. AND if the argument comes up these people are only looking for a better life...then people who steal are in the same category..Robbers should be forgiven as they also want a better life rather than follow the existing rules..The illegals are taking places of people who follow the rules and want to come in but the system is placing emphasis on deportation.

1911guy · Jan 27, 2017

spat said:
Nope, I want the honest hard working guys here, don't care where they come from. We need a tough screening process to weed out all the undesirables, but what's left should be allowed in easily.

Who would you rather live next to, a hard working landscaper from Mexico who is working on the American dream, or some snowflake from Seattle who thinks the world owes him everything ?

Then you should work to change the law rather than advocate breaking the law as it is written.

spat · Jan 28, 2017

1911guy said:
Then you should work to change the law rather than advocate breaking the law as it is written.

I refuse to fault the NYers who have kept their fully featured rifles, and standard magazines. You are welcome to your opinion, I do not share it.

pjzwtl · Jan 28, 2017

spat said:
Nope, I want the honest hard working guys here, don't care where they come from. We need a tough screening process to weed out all the undesirables, but what's left should be allowed in easily.

Who would you rather live next to, a hard working landscaper from Mexico who is working on the American dream, or some snowflake from Seattle who thinks the world owes him everything ?

The person who's first act in our country was to break the law? Then drive down wages and take work from citizens and others who are here legally? I know a lot of guys in the trades who aren't working much yet I am on job sites all the time filled with illegals working tax free sending the money home. I don't blame but that doesn't make me sympathetic. I get solicited all the time by these guys for work.. I would never hire an illegal and I compete with my competition just fine. And it isn't just the grunt jobs were talking about every skilled trade is being screwed by this crap.

spat · Jan 28, 2017

pjzwtl said:
The person who's first act in our country was to break the law? Then drive down wages and take work from citizens and others who are here legally? I know a lot of guys in the trades who aren't working much yet I am on job sites all the time filled with illegals working tax free sending the money home. I don't blame but that doesn't make me sympathetic. I get solicited all the time by these guys for work.. I would never hire an illegal and I compete with my competition just fine. And it isn't just the grunt jobs were talking about every skilled trade is being screwed by this crap.

I'll still take them over a bunch of SJWs that happen to have been born here.

RDN · Jan 28, 2017

The first thing illegals do when they get here is get knocked up. And after the anchor baby is born, illegals apply for social service.
That's why three of my neighbors around my home have 4-6 cars in driveway + street. Cause each of these homes have 3-4 families in a single family house.

pjzwtl · Jan 28, 2017

spat said:
I'll still take them over a bunch of SJWs that happen to have been born here.

Nice cop out. Everyone who's job there taking is what you refer to as a SJW?

spat · Jan 28, 2017

pjzwtl said:
Nice cop out. Everyone who's job there taking is what you refer to as a SJW?

No, but you don't own the job, nobody is taking it from you. If the SJWs weren't around there would be plenty of jobs for everyone. With no diversity coordinators and so forth, the company could afford both the honest immigrants and the hard working Americans.

Blimey · Jan 28, 2017

Good. If the people in these cities think it is worth protecting illegals to lose money, that's their choice, and an honest one. The funding DOES need to be witheld IMO.

Podmonkey · Jan 28, 2017

You break the law you go to jail. Any person the violates any law, including federal I migration law, should be brought up on felony charges, tried and if guilty sent to prison and barred from any future public service. Period. Why the fuck is this not being done?! There should be a zero tolerance policy on this!

pjzwtl · Jan 29, 2017

spat said:
No, but you don't own the job, nobody is taking it from you.(I would disagree if your willing to If the SJWs weren't around there would be plenty of jobs for everyone. With no diversity coordinators and so forth, the company could afford both the honest immigrants and the hard working Americans. [/QUOTE]

Your right nobody owns a job but illegal immigrants have NO right to them. And yes they are taking work. Living here temporarily taking wages a citizen couldn't live on while they pack 25 - 30 of them in a flop house to share the rent and send the rest back home all tax free.
And I have heard the argument some make that some of them pay taxes via a bogus SS#, so we can add identity theft to the list.

Honesty starts by abiding to the laws of the country you are immigrating to not disregarding them.

Yea I will agree if the government got out of the way we would have a lot more jobs and may need more immigrants but even then they should be here legally and until that is the case it is not the reality our current discussion exists in

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