Jaywmustang
.308 Win
coupons would be nice for me. Gander is about a hour away from my county clerks, runnings is a little closer. Gander is about 1 hour away from the county clerks then a 1 hour back to pick up my pistol. Be nice to save a trip.
Purchased a handgun, County Clerk is closed...
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S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
It’s the same for us here in Onondaga cnty.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Oh Arizona I’m jealous. My wife’s friend and her husband live there and he posts gun pictures on his Facebook account and you should see the shit he has. Suppressed Ar’s, suppressed sig 320’s man I’m jealous. He’s dorky as all get out but I’m jealous. He’s like one of the countries top rated radiologists or something crazy. He’s super freaking smart. Well he left NYS smarter than I am.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
I don't know. I think you guys upstate have it to easy.
Go to store. Buy pistola. Mail copy of receipt with requisite form, or drop off in person. Either way, pay fee. Oh, and don't forget the self-addressed stamped envelope.
Wait 3 weeks to anytime just short of infinity to get judge signed "coupon" in mail.
Go back to gun store. Complete 4473, hope you get a proceed. Take gun home.
Go to store. Buy pistola. Mail copy of receipt with requisite form, or drop off in person. Either way, pay fee. Oh, and don't forget the self-addressed stamped envelope.
Wait 3 weeks to anytime just short of infinity to get judge signed "coupon" in mail.
Go back to gun store. Complete 4473, hope you get a proceed. Take gun home.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Yea, all the local gun stores down there have SOT licenses so they can sell suppressors and stuff.
There are a couple of edge cases where NY is better, but not many.
The biggest 2 I know of are:
A business there can post a no guns sign that has the force of law. Here, all they can do is kick you out if they find out.
The distance you need to be from a neighbors house to setup your range is further in AZ.
Other than those 2, it's better in every way.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Even though I used to live in NY this stuff is unbelievable in retrospect. I don't miss it at ALL.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
According to how penal law 400 is , this is the way it’s supposed to work. Because to take possession of a pistol and be covered under it’s exemption, it must be listed on your license with the make, model, caliber, and serial number.
Not knocking other counties or saying that they should follow the law (I don’t care what they do nor do I agree with the law.) but they have been getting away with violating the law for years.
The law makes no mention of green coupons in lieu of an updated license. To qualify from exemption for penal law 265 via penal law 400, the license must include the gun to possess. It doesn’t say that you can possess it within 10 days with a green coupon or any other anything.
7. License: form. Any license issued pursuant to this section shall, except in the city of New York, be approved as to form by the superintendent of state police. A license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver shall have attached the licensee's photograph, and a coupon which shall be removed and retained by any person disposing of a firearm to the licensee. Such license shall specify the weapon covered by calibre, make, model, manufacturer's name and serial number, or if none, by any other distinguishing number or identification mark, and shall indicate whether issued to carry on the person or possess on the premises, and if on the premises shall also specify the place where the licensee shall possess the same.
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Budonahog
.40 S&W
Yes, this is the way Ulster county pretty much works as well. Waited 9 weeks for my last coupon. Have one at the ffl now that I have been waiting for about 6 weeks now and who knows how much longer with all the shtf business.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Yeah, well all of us up here hate you all down there!
Got it, thats a pretty good system.
Your county uses the coupon system different than most.
As we see alot of guys here have to wait days or weeks to even ick up their gun.
I was not aware there were counties that allowed you to carry a gun that wasnt yet on your permit.
Anyways, my LGS is between home and the court house so im driving by anyways......unless I buy at Runnings, then the trip is loger.
Thennnnn, sometimes the gun I want is at my LGS in Pennsylvania.
Then I need to buy the gun, call my ffl friend in NYS, his shop is about 5 miles from PA LGS.
He comes to PA to pick up my gun while I drive to pp office to add gun.
I then go to his shop in NY and pick up gun. It all works out well and takes about 2 hours. Unless my ffl is busy or not available.....then I may have to wait a day or 2.
tc556guy
.40 S&W
Tompkins makes you get the coupon before taking possession of the handgun. I email the paperwork to the customer to save them a trip. They get the coupon and come over for the transfer
The clerk is closed until at least May 1
Given the recent thread here that said that Albany is going after the sole proprietor FFLs found to still be operating, it might be a blessing. That P form hitting Albany after the transfer is like a red flare going up telling them that the FFL is still operating. Even if it was a LEO buying on their badge I'm not sure if it would be enough to save the FFL from some tender loving Albany style
This state sucks for gun owners in a multitude of ways
The clerk is closed until at least May 1
Given the recent thread here that said that Albany is going after the sole proprietor FFLs found to still be operating, it might be a blessing. That P form hitting Albany after the transfer is like a red flare going up telling them that the FFL is still operating. Even if it was a LEO buying on their badge I'm not sure if it would be enough to save the FFL from some tender loving Albany style
This state sucks for gun owners in a multitude of ways
If I did this in Westchester (and you can't), I'd be considered a felon.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
What I was told when I took my pistol safety course, was that about the only thing the counties shared in the whole process was the application form itself. Other than that, every county had different application processes and ways of handling amendments Etc.. ass backwards for something that is supposed to be a state issued license. It makes me wonder how it would go for someone, from say, Livingston County buying a pistol in Rensselaer County and handing the ffl a pre bought coupon on the spot. Or if someone from Albany County went to a store in Livinston and told the ffl there that it will likely be a month to never that they would get their coupon from their judge. I mean, would ffls in one county recognise how other counties handle amendments?
thegatman
.308 Win
That is if the clerk is open.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I live in Sullivan but tend to visit FFLs in adjoining counties. Either they have similar processes or just "get" how it works. It probably would be a bigger deal if you're from downstate (like Westchester) and decide to buy something out in western NY or the North Country. Those FFLs might be like "wtf" and either not go through with the sale or ask that you pay upfront and have it transferred to a local FFL near you. Again, I've never bought a gun that hasn't either been in my county or an adjoining county so I can only relate my experience.
What it boils down to is that it's all bullshit. There should be no pistol licensing scheme and you should just be able to walk into a gun store, pick out what you want, pass your NICS, and walk out like you would with a long gun.
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Some FFl's understand the confusing unconstitutional laws of this state and some don't. That's why I only do business with the ones that do.
Thats the kicker.
Gotta buy a gun from tues-fri .
Not a problem for me, I dont ever need an emergency handgun purchase. Ive already got gus for all my needs. Anything else is just a want.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wow...that long in Ulster these days? I thought it used to be a lot faster than that.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Downstate you have to wait for the judge to sign off on the green coupon which is a purchase authorization, get the gun put on your license as per Penal law 400 to take possession of it, and then pick it up from the FFL. Without either, you can’t pick up the gun. The huge delay is the judge signing off on the coupon.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Yeah OC was a pain. 1-2 weeks.
New Sheriff, and the county legislature is now almost all commie libtards.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
You have the desert and can shoot out there. From what I understand there are plenty of places to shoot in AZ.
The no gun signs having power of law is stupid.
Do you know what the charge would be if you violated that sign law?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
We have enough property and our neighbors will be far enough away that I can build a decent range at the back of the property.
There are many places out in the desert you can just go and shoot, but walking out your back door is better.
Unfortunately I can't quite shoot off the back porch, will need to go to the back of the property.
IIRC, carrying in a business with no guns signs is a misdemeanor. There are a bunch of exceptions and so forth. If a local municipality wants to post no guns signs they have to provide secure storage for your guns while you are there for instance.
I'm in Ulster County and have now been waiting 3 weeks to add a pistol to my permit. I called and asked why the delay and the woman who answered at the sheriff's office said, I will get my coupon when the judge feels like signing off on it. She has no idea how long that might take. Total BS if you ask me. If you already have a permit, they should allow the sheriff to run the background check and issue the coupon.
I noticed that this is an old post, that has been brought back to life. Down state, in Nassau County, You can buy a handgun at the LGS, then take the paid receipt to the Nassau County police pistol bureau, pay the $10.00 fee and have a new permit printed while you wait. Then shuffle back to the LGS and pick up the new handgun. The Nassau County police pistol bureau is open Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri normal business hours. This can be done in a hour or two with a little driving. A Nassau County resident can purchase a handgun at any NY State FFL and just bring in the paid receipt. Driving back to Delaware County to pick up a handgun could be a chore, but if you have a second home up there, it is not a big deal.
There are only a few Counties that will issue purchase coupons in advance...None in the north Country will.
Kiloyankee
.38 Special
Orleans county use to issue the coupons in advance, but no more. Now you have to buy the gun, go to the clerks office and register the gun, then they'll give you a coupon to pick up the gun.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
No infringements here. None I tell ya. Fuxkin NY...