spat
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Like that video would ever get past the censors and "fact checkers".
Quarantine Procedures” will give the state of New York the ability to come in your home and take you away
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
Democrats, accusing Republicans of doing all the worst shit they themselves are doing.
That particular incident was under the direction of Killerie's husband, and it was so high profile, you *know* he had to sign off personally.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Same with my son. I was told if we didn’t check in with how he was feeling and temperature reporting that they would or could send someone to the house. I told my wife not to send them but she did. I also told her that if anyone shows up slam the door in their face because they said we may send someone to check up on you since they asked if we wanted someone to come out and consult us or something to that effect. Wife said no there.
They also had pulled my house facts to know how many bedrooms and bathrooms I had to make sure him and my son didn’t share a room. They asked that as well. Voluntary.
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tony
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Andrew "the turd" Cuomo will be hired as di-rectum of the camps. He will operate just like he did with the nursing homes during the Corona outbreak...
From the "get well" containment camps, to the nursing homes, then to the crematoriums.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
hmmm...
From the "get well" containment camps, to the nursing homes, then to the crematoriums.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
hmmm...
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Deplorable Me
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And they'll make up illnesses to justify implementing their actions. Probably include free rail transport as part of their plan.
As someone who has actually been to Germany and visited a Nazi Extermination Camp where people were herded into and killed, - for various reasons including their supposedly being undesirables, Whorecul's actions scare the shit out of me. Read up on what the Nazi's did, - and HOW they did it, and you will be too. The Governor's relentless attacks on conservatives; surveillance threats; rules allowing internments without due process; and calling for purple tie goon squads to come after those they oppose is no different than what Hitler's brown shirts did in the 1930's.
I am grateful to be out, and hope my family members will follow someday before they waste their lives in the shithole we call New Yorkistan.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
No need to make up an illness. The USSA (United Socialist States of America) can/will simply fund another batlab.
I heard FOX recently report a couple of times that chy-nah now has a "new" virus going thru their population.
Consider... lots of Chinese aliens/illegals have been crossing our borders. So, I expect the china illegals will share their newly developed disease/virus with the US population, like they did the last time. Perfect timing too, considering the '24 elections coming up.
Deja Vu all over again? And is the Left in on it? Inquiring minds wat to know...
ManualF150
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Deja Vu and NYS COVID Camps... and an upcoming election that involves Trump... yeah.
You see, these migrants/illegals are like malware/computer viruses. They bypass our shitty filtering device called an open border, and they can infect us healthy Americans with WuKong viruses and get us all sick again for another lock down which in NYS, we will be sent to COVID Camp and get forced jabs, probably shit shoved up out butts and noses... who likely knows what else....
I'm sure it's totally coincidence that this stuff is all happening in china
indianexpress.com
www.nature.com
abcnews.go.com
Oh and let's be real, even if it's not for some random commie virus or pandemic when has the statist left ever "not" used a political tool to attack their opponents. There is a literal graveyard of anti leftist opposition. If the left has a tool at their disposal it's because they intend to use it. Whether they fabricate the need or method is irrelevant, the results will be the same.
Also weird that we are almost to 2024 a big election year, I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence and has nothing to do with the desire to restrict people's abilities to vote.
China respiratory illness: What’s the H9N2 avian flu outbreak there all about?
A subtype of avian flu virus needs to be watched for mutations. Here are need-to-knows from Dr Rommel Tickoo, Director of Internal Medicine at Max Superspeciality Hospital, Saket
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What’s behind China’s mysterious wave of childhood pneumonia?
Scientists expected a surge in respiratory disease, but what is happening in China is unusual.
www.nature.com
What to know about the respiratory illnesses surging in some parts of China
Some parts of China have been experiencing a surge of respiratory illnesses such as flu and RSV, in the first winter since the country eased its COVID-restrictions.
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Oh and let's be real, even if it's not for some random commie virus or pandemic when has the statist left ever "not" used a political tool to attack their opponents. There is a literal graveyard of anti leftist opposition. If the left has a tool at their disposal it's because they intend to use it. Whether they fabricate the need or method is irrelevant, the results will be the same.
Also weird that we are almost to 2024 a big election year, I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence and has nothing to do with the desire to restrict people's abilities to vote.
Maybe Pb Poisoning?
Better yet, Vitamin pb for those assigned round up duties?
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Do think they couldn’t do that now if a law was misused and had everybody on board? Thats where it would fall apart . That’s the whole purpose of habeas corpus.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
And the appeal process before any arrest would have been an article 78 . There was a process. Just not an administrative one before going to court .
And if you had been arrested , a writ of habits corpus could be issued to have due process at a minimum.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Not the same thing at all. Wasn’t this a custody battle to begin with ?
spat
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They can commit straight up murder right now if enough people are in on it.
But, this will make it much easier, and it will allow it to become institutionalized.
Right now, to hold someone incommunicado like that would require the criminal cooperation of a number of participants.
With this in place, it becomes "just following orders".
It is very much like building a Guantanamo Bay right here in NY.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Funny I just ran into a cop I know today on a walk and he’s conservative so I told him about this since he had not heard of it. He told me they were instructed to arrest people for either obstruction of justice or disorderly conduct for breaking Covid quarantine rules. He refused but don’t say this won’t happen.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
It’s the same with the new law as it is with the old . Three of the right people and you could “disappear “. Heck , one person who could forge a few signatures and change a few records could make it happen now. Heck, that movie “the net” with sanda bullock was just a 1990s paranoid movie that could come true now. It doesn’t mean it will.
Yes, that would have been the technical charges just like if the governor ordered everyone off the roads and streets for a snow emergency. It’s not new.
How many people were actually arrested during Covid for violating the lockdown? And who instigated such a measure to have it enforced ie who enforced it. How many cops didn’t get the jab themselves and paid a price?
Any law can be misused, abused etc. The laws are already on the books to be able to do all sorts of things if purposely misapplied like calling gun control a health emergency and applying those laws incorrectly. Instead of completely fighting this law, add more safeguards like they did with the NICS check. They knew a democrat might sabotage the system so they put in a time limit in which if NICS didnt give an answer the sale could go thru.
Add things like go before a judge even if remotely. Specify the conditions of confinement— I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be put in a room of infected people if I didn’t think I was —also methods of communication etc— this might already be covered by corrections law — I don’t know.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
so what side are you on ??
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
i have a right to travel ..
snow or rain ..
she has no duty to protect me in my travel in fowl weather ..
if you want to shut down all the roads .. then the same applies to all emergency vehicles too ..
its for your SAFTEY
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Doesn’t work that way. Emergency vehicles and certain workers are exempt . National guardsmen have be able to go to their call up for example .
And it is often a risk for emergency personnel when somebody wants to violate those restrictions and for emergency personnel to travel . I remember when two port authority cops died as result . I have had to drive on patrol during a hurricane.
By the way, the right to travel doesn’t mean you can drive . And there are roads pedestrians aren’t allowed on. The devil is the details .
spat
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It doesn't take arrests for tyranny. Just obedience.
The Stasi or KGB don't actually have to arrest many people at all. The threat of such arrest is enough.
Even if the police don't arrest anyone for exercising a right, the credible threat that they will is sufficient.
How many people followed covid bullshit only under threat of government punishment ?
How many businesses enforced obviously unconstitutional mandates under threat of being shut down ?
Why would they fear that if there wasn't a credible threat ?
The bottom line is that *everything* government does it does with the implied threat of violence. The police *are* that threat, whether you want to admit it or not.
spat
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Just because you can enumerate a lot instances of government overstepping it's authority, doesn't mean any of them are justified.
Someone putting themselves in a ditch during a snow storm does *not* endanger any emergency personnel.
If it is too dangerous to assist them, then don't go. It is that simple.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
That is often the case. One doesn’t go but more often than not, emergency personnel will go, to save people from their own stupidity — and often their children too.
Part of the reason to ban general travel is to make travel by emergency and necessary personnel possible. If everyone is allowed on the road , the traffic prevents them from getting thru . A car that is stalled on the highway prevents it from getting plowed, etc etc .
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Yes, but it wasn’t the regular police who were enforcing it . The true threat was a government agency with arrest or fining powers . Is a restaurant really afraid of the police shutting them down or the health department?
spat
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And who will back up the health department when the restaurant owner arms up and tells them to fuck off ?
The police *are* the bottom line for any dispute with the government, because they will always back up whatever agency or petty tyrant happens to abuse people.
Then you tell yourselves that "they should cooperate and fight it in court" as if that's a reasonable thing to do for something Iike the covid lockdowns.
Sure, maybe 2 years later you get the order vacated, after your business ceases to exist.
We saw plenty of that during covid. Just recently we are starting to see many of those orders being overturned. Fat lot of good that's doing the people who were abused.
spat
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If they choose to go, then that's their business. But they can't blame the guy who got stuck because they chose to go.
If everyone is allowed on the road, and you issue a *recommendation* not to drive, but *everyone* thinks youre full of shit and goes out anyway, then the problem isn't that it isn't mandatory.
Maybe the government should re-evaluate it's recommendations for closure. If you issue so many "travel advisories" that people don't take them seriously, then maybe your criteria are sensitive.
If people stop paying attention every time you yell "the sky is falling", the solution isn't to point a gun at them and say "I'm serious dammit".
thisIslandEarth
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Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
So, by that standard, the police make you pay your taxes.
Again, that’s not your regular patrol cop doing that .
Did you ever see the video when two cops escorted a health department official to close a gym? The video where the gym owner when “caught” letting people work out claimed it was a BLM protest. And the cops just walked out. They weren’t there to shut down the place . They were there to protect/escort that health department official to make sure nothing happened to her. Big difference.
In other cases, they had to bring in other than normal LE ( if you can call them that ) to enforce it.
I do understand your point about the power of the government but it’s misplaced when you point the finger at general law enforcement. It’s like blaming a guy in the navy for what someone in the army did.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
How many people do you know were arrested for traveling during one of those times?
And what happens when they can’t plow a street because someone didn’t listen and the street is blocked with a car that got stuck? I remember the news stories where people died because ambulances couldn’t get thru when they couldn’t plow the streets . That’s something to be considered.
But really, how many people were arrested for being on the road ? Almost none if any.
And having had to patrol during those times, I can say, some people were on the road . Never saw them arrested just for that .