S3636 LIMIT SAFE ACT TO NYC

[ArmedCorgi]

Ortt is lacking in the leadership department.

I don't get you. You post on this forum all the time about how no one does anything to help the 2A in NY but when someone does try to do something, like Ortt, you immediatly poo poo it as bs and something that will never see the light of day. How can you honestly expect any progress or to motivate anyone here on this forum into action when you piss and moan about everyone's apathy and in the same breath dismiss anyone's action?

 

[Shadow2]

No rhino can stop what a Dem majority intends to pass. Anyway its a hail marry to buy support from fringe Dems that don't exist. This law needs to make its way back to the supreme court. In reality the people should be camped out in Albany and NYC peacefully protesting just like Antifa and BLM for the entire summer.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

A Rhino cant stop what a Dem majority plans to pass.

And being cynical about the effort is helping how?

 

[spat]

For the most part NY, PA, VA and many of the western states are mostly 2A friendly. The difference is this state and most others are increasingly being overrun by the urban vote. As with NYC controlling all of NY, the same is happening to many other states now. Even Texas is becoming a lot more purple than red. As for VA they already lost a lot of their rights so you are right, it's going to be a lot harder for them to get them back.

I remember when CA used to be a bedrock Republican state.

They elected Ronald Reagan governor after all.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Ortt is no better than the rest. All talk. Gets attention whenn "speaking" about crap act but has got zip done; just like the others

 

[Criticalt]

"We" throw money at a variety of groups and expect them to take care of problems. How many here make it a habit to pick up the phone, write a letter or even send an email ourselves? "We" have to get off our butts and do the bitching to those who make the rules instead of spending all our time preaching to the choir. "We" can never accomplish anything if all we have is a "we" can't beat them attitude.

I send emails and make phone calls ALL the time, the problem is, the last 3 or so years they fall on deft ears......if anyone reads them at all.
The 2 exceptions are Tom Reed and George Borello....my state house rep and senate rep.....both Republicans. They will at least send a form letter back every time I call or write.
My other reps who I write all the time......Gillibrand, Shumer, Cuomo.......they dont even acknowledge I live anymore. They used to send their "im super pro 2a" form letters but I havent heared shit back sinse the dems took control.....not a single response. And when I call, their aides cannot wait to get off the phone....I dont even hear them typing in the background anymore.
Tom Reed seems to be pretty good on the 2A, but hes one dude.
(I know someone will say TOM REED SUCKS but thats who I got and he always supports the 2A and takes time out to speak at 2A meetings and such)
Anyways, we can write and call all we want, they are now going out of their way to ignore us and not even hiding it..
Im sure im on their "right wing nut job" list of people not to respond to but I will still do my part whether it be for letting scum out of prison or gun issues.....im not going away.
In 2020 alone I sent over 100 emails and calls to NYS politicians and representatives.

 

[MikeyCNY]

Maybe this has been brought up in another thread, but any thoughts on soon-to-be Governor Kathy Hochul? From what little I read she was actually endorsed by the NRA 10+ years ago (for what it matters).

 

[gunpoliticsny]

I don't get you. You post on this forum all the time about how no one does anything to help the 2A in NY but when someone does try to do something, like Ortt, you immediatly poo poo it as bs and something that will never see the light of day. How can you honestly expect any progress or to motivate anyone here on this forum into action when you piss and moan about everyone's apathy and in the same breath dismiss anyone's action?

Because I know Orrt is doing the same thing Republicans have done for decades. They automatically get the same bills reintroduced year after year then do nothing. They don't talk it up, they don't put on political theater with supporters in the Well, they make no effort to move it. The antis did all this for years. Electeds brought astroturf to Albany and had a media circus with them. They tried pushing bills out of committee. Republicans do not do any of this. Monday's legislative session was scrapped when Will Barclay showed some spine and attempted to attach hostile amendments to 85 bills stripping Cuomo of his emergency powers. When have they done this with 2A? If Orrt wants to do something he can go on the floor and make a motion to discharge for this bill, get a couple of other Senators to support him, and let the chamber spend an hour or so discussing the failure of the SAFE Act and why they're going to keep it anyway.

 

[Criticalt]

For the most part NY, PA, VA and many of the western states are mostly 2A friendly. The difference is this state and most others are increasingly being overrun by the urban vote. As with NYC controlling all of NY, the same is happening to many other states now. Even Texas is becoming a lot more purple than red. As for VA they already lost a lot of their rights so you are right, it's going to be a lot harder for them to get them back.

I agree, this is why we need gun friendly counties in NYS to join together to keep these gun laws confined to NYC. That sucks for you in NYC but thats another issue.
We will NEVER repeal enough laws to make NYC the same as we have it in the 2A friendly counties.
We need to push local lawmakers to demand Albany keeps their laws to where the problems are. After all, many rural NY counties have ZERO gun murders a year......ZERO!
So why do we need the laws meant to keep city folk in line?
Out here in the sticks we still just beat people up, we dont even consider using a gun in a disagreement. And I cannot remember the last time I heard of someone using a gun to rob someone in our area.