Safe recommendations.

IrishMick · May 8, 2020

Much of the quality difference in safe models is the steel thickness in the door and jamb construction. Most of the big box store safes have rather thin steel used in the door (10-12ga) where the high end safes have much thicker steel (1/4"+) for the outer door skin. The jamb weight and construction is also heavier. This is for defense against pry attacks. Higher end safe will also have tighter door/frame fitment to make it more difficult to insert tools to pry with. They will also have slightly thicker steel used in the body construction to slow cutting attacks. Most safes available are vulnerable to cutting attacks given enough time/privacy. Look on Youtube there are some good videos on this subject.

Automan21 · May 8, 2020

Liberty makes some great safes. Decent size for like $700 also you can find a deal on Amazon.

Automan21 · May 8, 2020

Didnt see the full post from the OP but I would go with that deal that has the rebate. GL

Saltwater60 · May 8, 2020

I have a newer stack on and I’m happy with it. Is it the greatest safe out there no. I’m sure liberty safes are nicer. Mines on the second floor and I couldn’t lift a liberty up there so I went with the lighter stack on and bolted it down.
Winchester safes look nice as well.

Automan21 · May 8, 2020

A quick tip, if you take the door off the safe its a bit lighter for relocation.

eee · May 8, 2020

Another thing to keep in mind is water and fireproofing. Depending on your needs these may be important.

Costco has some good large safe deals.

Steal2B · May 8, 2020

You have me yearning for the good old days with the every Black Friday Liberty Gun Safe blowout sales at Gander Mountain. I regret never pulling the trigger on those deals
... although I have helped some of those, who took my advice, get them up to their second floor and mount them in their new forever homes.

cgrutt · May 8, 2020

IrishMick said:
Much of the quality difference in safe models is the steel thickness in the door and jamb construction. Most of the big box store safes have rather thin steel used in the door (10-12ga) where the high end safes have much thicker steel (1/4"+) for the outer door skin. The jamb weight and construction is also heavier. This is for defense against pry attacks. Higher end safe will also have tighter door/frame fitment to make it more difficult to insert tools to pry with. They will also have slightly thicker steel used in the body construction to slow cutting attacks. Most safes available are vulnerable to cutting attacks given enough time/privacy. Look on Youtube there are some good videos on this subject.

Don't think you'll find many with 1/4"+ plate. Could be wrong. I've got a Fort Knox Titan that uses 3/16" (on door and case) with 10 ga liner on interior and it weighs 1800 lbs dry.

joesurfer · May 10, 2020

You should get the most expensive safe you can afford. Check YouTube for how some of them suck, especially the cheap ones. And make sure you bolt it down. DeanSafe co. has some good ones.

technicalgadget · May 10, 2020

Sturdy safe uses 7 gauge steel or 3/16" or thicker. Probably the best thickness in the business.

MikeyCNY · May 10, 2020

I'm happy with my Liberty - obviously you should get the biggest model you can afford. Mine is getting a bit cramped but I need to reorganize a bit. The wife gets one little shelf for her stuff.

I have some of those rifle rod things to try to keep them upright but the velcro isn't sticking very well.

Honest Gun Safe Reviews, Trusted Since 2013 - Gun Safe Reviews Guy has some really good info - but they recommend a mechanical dial.

Also moving them is a bitch, unless you have the appropriate dolly. They say lots of friends but there's only so many people who can crowd around it to move it indoor. I never did reach out to any piano movers for assistance - kind of don't want to advertise it, ya' know?

edit: Like said above, Sturdy has some hella thick steel, but it's also very expensive.

MikeyCNY · May 15, 2020

You might be able to pick up a cheap Liberty safe, slightly used -

technicalgadget · May 15, 2020

Sorry if this is repetitive, but it’s a worthwhile video to watch for new safe owners. Scroll the video to 2:35 seconds for the goods...

Chevusa · May 15, 2020

I was going to recommend you look at Tractor Supply. Most safes are Chinese made and are pretty much only good for keeping kids out. Obviously we can't all buy a safe that costs as much as a car. Liberty is a pretty good option I think. I've got my eyes on getting one some time. Here are a few great videos. The second one will amaze you. $$$$$$$$$$$

meketrefe · May 15, 2020

The best safe is the one that nobody can find where it is.

MikeyCNY · May 15, 2020

Criticalt said:
That video kinda pissed me off.
Made me think if I wanted to buy a Liberty safe.
There are alot of good people out there who cannot afford a good safe.
Liberty has given Matt at least 12 safes that I know of....to destroy.
And Matts videos do nothing to show the durability of the safes with the average burglar.
Complete waste

Oh man, you should see all the videos of people doing drop-test videos of optics, including firing hundreds (sometimes thousands) of rounds into just a backstop, no targets.

I mean I see your point - the last 1-2 safes looked unscathed. Have a giveaway where the winner gets the safe delivered for free, hell even make it a Liberty-sponsored video.

Chevusa · May 15, 2020

I've heard of people buying a cheaper safe and bolting it down in a common area where a thief would expect to find it, like a bedroom. When they got it open after whatever, 10 or 30 minutes, they would find it empty. The real safe would be in another location, like the basement. Most people would take off after the failed robbery. Unless it's an inside job not many thieves are going to want to stick around much longer than that.

Shadow2 · May 15, 2020

Spend the extra money get a plate steel door. Rhino has 1/4" plate door and can be had in various body thickness.

Acer-m14 · May 15, 2020

Criticalt said:
That video kinda pissed me off.
Made me think if I wanted to buy a Liberty safe.
There are alot of good people out there who cannot afford a good safe.
Liberty has given Matt at least 12 safes that I know of....to destroy.
And Matts videos do nothing to show the durability of the safes with the average burglar.
Complete waste

i love the video because i love to blow shit up too .. ..

what really needs to happen is the laws getting changed .. the first safe is you home .. break into it should be the major penalty .. and hollow type doors should be claymore's

LOL ..

SomeSoldier · May 16, 2020

I was looking at gun safes years ago. What I learned was, they don't protect shit. What gun safes are good at is keeping you and your family from having access to guns. Thevies are going to get into your safe in mins with a saw. If you really want something that works, the cost is astronomical.

I have been keeping an eye on these guys for years. If I was going to buy something it would probably be from them. Keep my weapons out of the hands of people that might be in my house lawfully but not break the bank.

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Chevusa · Aug 5, 2020

I really should get a decent safe.
Is this good one? It's probably a tad more than I want to spend but what are you gonna do? I like that it's Liberty because they sell a kit to bring AC power inside for lights or dehumidifiers. Otherwise I would have to drill a hole in a safe to do that.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/liberty-safe-liberty-revere-30-gun-dial-lock-safe-with-40-minute-fire-rating-rv30-gym-dp

I also like this one, I really like the price, but it's made in China and doesn't have the power kit I like.

Winchester Gun Safe, 26 Gun, TS26-45 at Tractor Supply Co.

Find Winchester Gun Safe, 26 Gun, TS26-45 in the Gun Safes category at Tractor Supply Co.The NEW Winchester TS26-45 is built with the proven sec

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Any thoughts or experiences with either of these?

Power outlet/Ethernet kit

Gun Safe Electrical Outlet Kit

Liberty electrical outlet kit lets you plug electrical devices into your home or gun safe, such as dehumidifiers, hard drives, laptops, lights, and more. This gun safe electrical outlet kit is easy to install and can be adjusted to the various thicknesses in a Liberty safe.

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MikeyCNY · Aug 5, 2020

Chevusa said:
I really should get a decent safe.
Is this good one? It's probably a tad more than I want to spend but what are you gonna do? I like that it's Liberty because they sell a kit to bring AC power inside for lights or dehumidifiers. Otherwise I would have to drill a hole in a safe to do that.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/liberty-safe-liberty-revere-30-gun-dial-lock-safe-with-40-minute-fire-rating-rv30-gym-dp

I also like this one, I really like the price, but it's made in China and doesn't have the power kit I like.

Winchester Gun Safe, 26 Gun, TS26-45 at Tractor Supply Co.

Find Winchester Gun Safe, 26 Gun, TS26-45 in the Gun Safes category at Tractor Supply Co.The NEW Winchester TS26-45 is built with the proven sec

www.tractorsupply.com

Any thoughts or experiences with either of these?

Power outlet/Ethernet kit

Gun Safe Electrical Outlet Kit

Liberty electrical outlet kit lets you plug electrical devices into your home or gun safe, such as dehumidifiers, hard drives, laptops, lights, and more. This gun safe electrical outlet kit is easy to install and can be adjusted to the various thicknesses in a Liberty safe.

www.libertysafe.com

Similar stats (and same weight, would still bolt down if you're able to) - but the Liberty has a lifetime warranty. For $200 more that could be worth it - they will replace in the event of a fire or attempted break-in. The Liberty is also Made in USA, Winchester is imported. Liberty says 30 gun capacity, Winchester says 26... but those are impossible numbers if you have scopes, sights, slings, lights etc installed.

Get the biggest you can afford, even if it means you're eating ramen for the next month. Eventually you'll fill it up and have to get another.

edit: I own a Liberty, don't remember size offhand. I have the outlet kit installed but never used it, I have a rechargeable dehumidifier in there I "recharge" once a month or so.

dsdmmat · Aug 5, 2020

technicalgadget said:
Sorry if this is repetitive, but it’s a worthwhile video to watch for new safe owners. Scroll the video to 2:35 seconds for the goods...

Attach it to the wall with the opening toward the wall. May be a pain to get into but it helps prevent the pry attack.

Saltwater60 · Aug 5, 2020

Never heard a bad thing about liberty.

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