byron
.308 Win
Sign the Petition January 27th 10:00 AM Steuben Co office building to make Steuben Co a 2nd amendment sanctuary county
Sanctuary Ordinance in Steuben County NY
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Jmac
.357 mag
Hoping Orange County will do the same
Madmallard
.223 Rem
I tried to get my Tioga county to be the first 2nd amendment sanctuary county New Yorkistan back in October but they were too scared of making Princess Andy mad and losing their Andy Dollars.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Sidebar- "Sanctuary Ordinance" sounds like a gun shop.
E the massive
.308 Win
vanderblack
.357 mag
Ramp it up. The more that push for it, the more counties will consider it.
96coal449
.308 Win
How about if the princess stops funds to the counties we stop paying state taxes and give it directly to our counties?
More than one way to skin a cat.
FUAC.
More than one way to skin a cat.
FUAC.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Bull boobs.
The 2nd is pretty damn clear and gets skirted daily in NY.
The 2nd is pretty damn clear and gets skirted daily in NY.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
THIS!!!
We need to defang the state by withholding OUR money from them when they engage in actions that do not follow the Constitution. Remit any "tax money" to the county instead of the state, have the county hold it in escrow, and then the counties can "collective bargain" with the state before they release any funds. Sounds like a decentralized model of governance to me, you know, sort of like what the founders envisioned before Croly and Wilson and all the other progressive assholes foisted "expert" governance on us...
Herbert D. Croly: Apostle of Progressivism
Herbert David Croly (1869–1930) was one of the most influential public intellectuals of the Progressive movement in the early 20th century, but his influence was not limited to his own era. Croly’s ideas were also instrumental in shaping President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal.
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stokes
.338 Win Mag
First of all,I doubt the county will accept money meant for the state.Even if they did,the state will still come after you directly for your taxes,including fines and penalties that build up quick.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Oh, ok. I forgot to mention that the escrow account funds would be available for disbursement to a bunch of lawsharks whose sole purpose was to defend individuals against selective and discriminatory enforcement by the state. Spend ALL of the money the state thinks we owe them in fighting them. Let the assholes that think it's ok to give free college and healthcare and drivers licences and housing and food to people who are here ILLEGALLY just so they will vote for their politicians pay for it.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
The state doesnt care who you give the money to,if you dont give it to them,you will be on the hook for your taxes,they arent chasing your tax payment thru attorneys,escrows or county coffers.Even if you explain that the money is in some escrow account or whatever you will still be charged fines and penalties til they get it.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I'm all in favor.THIS!!!
We need to defang the state by withholding OUR money from them when they engage in actions that do not follow the Constitution. Remit any "tax money" to the county instead of the state, have the county hold it in escrow, and then the counties can "collective bargain" with the state before they release any funds. Sounds like a decentralized model of governance to me, you know, sort of like what the founders envisioned before Croly and Wilson and all the other progressive assholes foisted "expert" governance on us...
Herbert D. Croly: Apostle of Progressivism
Herbert David Croly (1869–1930) was one of the most influential public intellectuals of the Progressive movement in the early 20th century, but his influence was not limited to his own era. Croly’s ideas were also instrumental in shaping President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal.
But good luck getting your employer to cooperate.
There is a reason that the only taxes you pay directly are local taxes.
Personally I think the *only* taxes paid directly by individuals should be local taxes, and the state should have to tax the localities and not the citizens directly for it's funds. Then the feds should have to tax the states.
96coal449
.308 Win
The way I see it, the employee wage tax is illegal to begin with. It was supposed to be temporary to "support the war effort" during WWII.
I understand this to be a hard deal to accomplish but, what do you do when you don't like the services of said hired. You fire them and stop payment.
They, panzy included, work for us.
I understand this to be a hard deal to accomplish but, what do you do when you don't like the services of said hired. You fire them and stop payment.
They, panzy included, work for us.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Taxation is theft. It just happens to be defined as "legal" theft. If enough people question the legality, the appropriate light might be shed on the practice.
96coal449
.308 Win
Correct .....problem is getting many on board. As we know many prefer to run in the flock while being herded like cattle.
There are a fair number of gun owners who SHOULD be on board for the sanctuary aspect alone.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
we will need the sheriff's being fully outspoken and saying what they did in VA and not backing down
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
96coal449
.308 Win
And the ones who don't can be replaced by ones who do by the county residents.
E the massive
.308 Win
In NY, Sherff's belong to a political party. They will tow the party line. The same for DA's.
96coal449
.308 Win
I am SO done with this state.
I will miss it, but I will not miss the politics.
I am so out of here.
What will NY do when there are no good citizens left to make a salary from? Oh wait......I know, they will be broke like Cali.
Stupid fucks.
The older we get, the more set in our ways we become. The more difficult it is to pull up stakes, and say "Fuck It, - I'm out of here". It is a Hell of a lot easier to move when you don't have things tying you down, - like family, work, owning a non movable business, owning property, and an accumulation of shit known as possessions that you have spent a lifetime getting your hands on.
And that is something that the Princess is counting on.
When I made the decision to get out of NY, I faced all of that. I packed what I could take, and sold a shitload of things that I had expected to use and enjoy in the later years of my life. And because I needed to be out of NY, and on the job in NC in 30 days, I let a lot of it go for pennies on the dollar, or just gave things away to friends, neighbors, - you name it, if you showed up late in the day at the garage sales, I gave it away.
Do I miss some of that stuff? The solid cherry furniture; my lathe, welders, and a mountain of other specialized tools? Almost daily, I find myself having a need for some of it, only to think "I used to own that..."
Do I regret moving from NY to NC. My ONLY regret is having had to move away from my children. And the Princess can kiss my ass.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
That's the problem we have in Broome county. The Sheriff is a Republican and opposes the SafeAct but Broome is very close to being Democrat. He might not get reelected if he spoke too much publicly. A lot of Democrats like him.
96coal449
.308 Win
I do have a love for NYS. Unfortunately panzy is beating it into hate. If it was just a tax issue I'd just deal with it. There's ways to offset taxes with agriculture. Won't be long and he'll be beating on that too. Fortunately, I have no real ties here with no serious possessions to tie me down. In fact I can put sides on my International and move almost all my stuff in one trip. A blessing of never being tied to property here. Thank god I've only been renting since I left my parents nest as a young lad.
I'm out of here.
To my brothers here, if a VA sized rally ever occurs......I will visit.
I'm out of here.
To my brothers here, if a VA sized rally ever occurs......I will visit.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Where you headed?
Robin
Robin
96coal449
.308 Win
So far my chosen state is Kentucky. Geographically similar with the hills and valleys. Though it may not have the lakes NY is known for ..... or the winters. Trying to find a rural location in-between the Lexington and Louisville area. Or anywhere easily commutable. Have to find someplace where the wife will be happy as well. I don't think she can deal with the boonies like myself. I'd be at hame in the Appalachian mountain region or the Daniel Boone forests. I love privacy.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Best to you and yours coal!!! Beautiful place Kentucky.
Robin
Robin
Tioga county here too.. [Candor],, Actually ,we might be better off.. We have it a lot better than a LOT of other counties in NY state some of which are pretty close by.. Tioga is a piece of cake in comparison when it comes to 2A rights .. I got my unrestricted in 2 months, first try,, A lot of better qualified, more astute , better prepared folks than I am want to carry in this state and can't just because of the county they live in.. I HATE thinking this way, I really do, but sometimes its just better to not paint a target on your back.... bob
96coal449
.308 Win
So a little investigation leads me to the same bullshit legislation being pushed in KY. "Assault weapons" ban and "high" capacity ban.
WTF!!!
When's civil war 2.0 going to break out?
This is fuckin sweaty moose dick lickin BS. How many states are free? WV with no infrastructure? Wisconsin where if you don't chain your truck down it'll blow away in one of their mild wind storms? I don't see a peaceful ending. So sad we have come to this.
Funny thing is I don't feel the anger that I should. Frustration yes......but more disappointment then anything.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Well coal I post the same thing I did on the other site and a few times here as well.
The harsh reality.
A tactical withdrawal is one of the toughest most dangerous maneuvers to make, most times the correct decision is to stand and fight.
Beyond that I will shut the fuck up at the risk of offending people I have come to like and respect.
Robin
The harsh reality.
A tactical withdrawal is one of the toughest most dangerous maneuvers to make, most times the correct decision is to stand and fight.
Beyond that I will shut the fuck up at the risk of offending people I have come to like and respect.
Robin