Sandy Hook Parents File 1st Argument To Supreme Court In Gun Lawsuit Case
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This is what it comes down to. Lanza killed his mother and took her guns. How's Remington responsible for that?
I try to be skeptical of conspiracy theories but something is seriously wrong with the official story about Sandy Hook and how it was handled. What other "mass shooting" required that the building/location be completely demolished (and materials removed and destroyed) with vendors and workers required to sign non-disclosure agreements? There's a lot of unanswered questions about that event.
Dr. Evil
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It also seemed a bit weird when the coroner laughed during a press conference.
holdover
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Somebody steals my Jeep and kills somebody with it and Jeep is now Liable for their death? The law suit is a Joke.
Sandy hook, oh Sandy hook. What a mess that is.. Nobody saw the shooter , walked into a freaking school with parents out front and nobody saw him except one or two of the victims which were never interviewed . the shooting occurred around 935 at 9 39 police helicopters chase man in woods . Not one person was seen by helicopter fleeing the seen of an active shooter. police dash cams never showed the 600 students leaving the school for the fire station , not one person had a phone to take pics or videos , every single witness has holes in their story you can drive a truck trough . Autopsy reports were sealed. bodys taken away in the middle of the night . 223 rounds lodged in the bodies of little girls fired from 10 feet away. the absolute false story's of sotos room. failure to ever provide police photos of the shooter or autopsy reports . Nancy lanza buying a mentally ill kid a weapon when she was afraid of him . the press accusation that she was a prepper and no evidence prepping or prepping books were ever found, no stockpiles of food water or ammo. the happy parents, I can go on for pages . every single thing about sandy hook can be challenged.
Sandy hook, oh Sandy hook. What a mess that is.. Nobody saw the shooter , walked into a freaking school with parents out front and nobody saw him except one or two of the victims which were never interviewed . the shooting occurred around 935 at 9 39 police helicopters chase man in woods . Not one person was seen by helicopter fleeing the seen of an active shooter. police dash cams never showed the 600 students leaving the school for the fire station , not one person had a phone to take pics or videos , every single witness has holes in their story you can drive a truck trough . Autopsy reports were sealed. bodys taken away in the middle of the night . 223 rounds lodged in the bodies of little girls fired from 10 feet away. the absolute false story's of sotos room. failure to ever provide police photos of the shooter or autopsy reports . Nancy lanza buying a mentally ill kid a weapon when she was afraid of him . the press accusation that she was a prepper and no evidence prepping or prepping books were ever found, no stockpiles of food water or ammo. the happy parents, I can go on for pages . every single thing about sandy hook can be challenged.
So Chevy can be sued the next time a young guy in a camaro drives like an idiot and kills someone? How about when someone in a tahoe gets drunk at the country club, drives home and kills a family?
Let's just sue alcohol producers, fast food, sporting events and anything that's mentally stressful too while we're at it
Let's just sue alcohol producers, fast food, sporting events and anything that's mentally stressful too while we're at it
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livingston
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More questions than answers. ...
holdover
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I cant tell you what happened, But I can tell you that most of what were told is complete bullshit
500 police officers and 500+ Journalists all have the same story that the shooter used hand guns for 24 hours!! then decided at noon the next the day that it was a rifle , even though he was found laying next to a rifle and piles of 223 brass and 30 round mags lieing all over the scene All fucking day.
500 police officers and 500+ Journalists all have the same story that the shooter used hand guns for 24 hours!! then decided at noon the next the day that it was a rifle , even though he was found laying next to a rifle and piles of 223 brass and 30 round mags lieing all over the scene All fucking day.
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freddy
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This explains the Sandy Hook hoax for any doubter. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/the-sandy-hook-hoax.html
holdover
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It really doesn't explain jack shit though. All it says is that The boy was killed. proves nothing.
I think 99% of people agree it happened. People died very horrifically and tragically. There is a small percentage of people who think it was made up with crisis actors....which doesn't make much sense.
What people do not agree on is EXACTLY WHAT happened. There are multiple conflicting stories on how everything happened. In not entirely sure what to believe other than Adam lanza is a scumbag and I hope he burns in hell, and I feel very terrible for the innocent people who were killed and their surving family members.
One of my biggest fears is a beslan school style attack happening tomorrow. I am so fearful of it I stress when my kids go to school.
dwa12479
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They came close with the folks that sued Lucky Gunner after Aurora. But it appears that the Brady Campaign cut them loose when they no longer served a purpose. With friends like that.........
Acer-m14
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how come the gay bar in Florida wasn't demolished .. they were just older kids .. but lots of photos of the injured posted , blood n all ... lots of holes in the Sandy hook .. i dont recall a single photo of a blood stain on the floor of the school .. just some so called bullet casing .. i just may have miss them if there
out there ..
out there ..
ImpeachObama
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They should sue Adam Lanza's mother for neglect of her son and then negligence that he could somehow get to her firearms. Oh wait, she is dead.
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The demolishing bit seems super fishy if you ask me.
To the main subject though, has anyone ever sued Lou'ville Slugger Co. for a murder done with a bat? Makes abou t as much sense.
To the main subject though, has anyone ever sued Lou'ville Slugger Co. for a murder done with a bat? Makes abou t as much sense.
Blimey
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So he loved video games, didn't think he could pass military testing, so instead decided to kill a bunch of kids.
I do believe there is a link between our violent media and our desensitization to violence, absolutely I do. But he was nuttier than squirrel shit, first and foremost, and yet we keep blaming the gun.
I do believe there is a link between our violent media and our desensitization to violence, absolutely I do. But he was nuttier than squirrel shit, first and foremost, and yet we keep blaming the gun.
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Played everything from SNES Doom to Verdun. Pretty sure I coundn't pass a military physical (glasses presciption).
Never shot anyone yet. Must be because my AR is NY-sterdized! Cuomo in his ever present, all knowing wisdom is to be thanked!
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For those that believed it happened.
JAMES FETZER: NOBODY DIED AT SANDY HOOK: It was a FEMA Drill to Promote Gun Control
JAMES FETZER: NOBODY DIED AT SANDY HOOK: It was a FEMA Drill to Promote Gun Control
Robin
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Sandy Hook is something that should be looked into, officially and discreetly.
Robin
Robin
holdover
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Nobody is ever going to open up the SH investigation. or JFK or 911. Lanzas body will never be found . Its ancient history now. All that's left is the Sheep who believe what the TV tells them , and some ""conspiracy theorists "" Who think for themselves and are skeptical of agenda driven fake news. Free thinkers are lunatics, If the founding fathers had tin foil they would have made hats out it. All they had was wool , and they did the best they could with it, 
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freddy
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This thread is beginning to remind me of something I saw years ago.
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Some time before 9:30 a.m. EST on Friday, December 14, 2012, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy Lanza, age 52, at their Newtown home with a.22-caliber Savage MK II-F bolt action rifle.[23] Investigators later found her body clad in pajamas, in her bed, with four gunshot wounds to her head.[24]Lanza then drove to Sandy Hook Elementary School in his mother's car.[23][25]
Shortly after 9:35 a.m., using his mother's Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle,[5][26][27] Lanza shot his way through a glass panel next to the locked front entrance doors of the school.[28][29][30] He was wearing black clothing, yellow earplugs, sunglasses,[31] an olive green utility vest, and was carrying magazines for the rifle.[32] Initial reports, which had stated that he had been wearingbody armor, were incorrect.[33] Some of those present heard the initial shots on the school intercom system, which was being used for morning announcements.[14]
Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were meeting with other faculty members when they heard, but did not recognize, gunshots. Hochsprung, Sherlach, and lead teacher Natalie Hammond went into the hall to determine the source of the sounds and encountered Lanza. A faculty member who was at the meeting said that the three women called out "Shooter! Stay put!" which alerted their colleagues to the danger and saved their lives.[34] An aide heard gunshots. A teacher hiding in the math lab heard school janitor Rick Thorne yell, "Put the gun down!" (Thorne survived.)[35] Lanza killed both Hochsprung and Sherlach.[36] Hammond was hit first in the leg, and then sustained another gunshot wound. She lay still in the hallway and then, not hearing any more noise, crawled back to the conference room and pressed her body against the door to keep it closed.[37] She was later treated at Danbury Hospital.[36][38]
A nine-year-old boy stated that he heard the shooter say: "Put your hands up!" and someone else say "Don't shoot!" He also heard many people yelling and many gunshots over the intercom, while he, his classmates, and his teacher took refuge in a closet in the gymnasium.[39] Diane Day, a school therapist who had been at the faculty meeting with Hochsprung, heard screaming, followed by more gunshots. A second teacher, who was a substitute kindergarten teacher, was wounded in the attack. While she was closing a door further down the hallway, she was hit in the foot with a bullet that ricocheted. Lanza never entered her classroom.[8][40][41]
After killing Hochsprung and Sherlach, Lanza entered the main office, but apparently did not see the people hiding there, and returned to the hallway.[30] School nurse Sarah (Sally) Cox,[42][43] 60, hid under a desk in her office. She later described seeing the door opening and Lanza's boots and legs facing her desk from approximately 20 feet (6.1 m) away. He remained standing for a few seconds before turning around and leaving. She and the school secretary Barbara Halstead called 9-1-1 and hid in a first-aid supply closet for as long as four hours.[44] Janitor Rick Thorne ran through hallways, alerting classrooms.[45]
Lanza then entered a first-grade classroom where Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher, had herded her first grade students to the back of the room, and was trying to hide them in a bathroom, when Lanza forced his way into the classroom.[40]Rousseau, Rachel D'Avino (a behavioral therapist who had been employed for a week at the school to work with a special needs student), and fifteen students in Rousseau's class were all killed. Fourteen of the children were dead at the scene; one injured child was taken to a hospital for treatment, but was later declared dead.[37] Most of the teachers and students were found crowded together in the bathroom.[46] A six-year-old girl, the sole survivor, was found by police in the classroom following the shooting.[37] The surviving girl was hidden in one of the corners of the classroom's bathroom during the shooting.[47] The girl's family pastor said that she survived the mass shooting by remaining still, and playing dead. When she reached her mother, she said, "Mommy, I'm okay, but all my friends are dead." The child described the shooter as "a very angry man."[48][49] A girl hiding in a bathroom with two teachers told police that she heard a boy in the classroom screaming, "Help me! I don't want to be here!" to which Lanza responded, "Well, you're here," followed by more hammering sounds.[50]
Shortly after 9:35 a.m., using his mother's Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle,[5][26][27] Lanza shot his way through a glass panel next to the locked front entrance doors of the school.[28][29][30] He was wearing black clothing, yellow earplugs, sunglasses,[31] an olive green utility vest, and was carrying magazines for the rifle.[32] Initial reports, which had stated that he had been wearingbody armor, were incorrect.[33] Some of those present heard the initial shots on the school intercom system, which was being used for morning announcements.[14]
Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were meeting with other faculty members when they heard, but did not recognize, gunshots. Hochsprung, Sherlach, and lead teacher Natalie Hammond went into the hall to determine the source of the sounds and encountered Lanza. A faculty member who was at the meeting said that the three women called out "Shooter! Stay put!" which alerted their colleagues to the danger and saved their lives.[34] An aide heard gunshots. A teacher hiding in the math lab heard school janitor Rick Thorne yell, "Put the gun down!" (Thorne survived.)[35] Lanza killed both Hochsprung and Sherlach.[36] Hammond was hit first in the leg, and then sustained another gunshot wound. She lay still in the hallway and then, not hearing any more noise, crawled back to the conference room and pressed her body against the door to keep it closed.[37] She was later treated at Danbury Hospital.[36][38]
A nine-year-old boy stated that he heard the shooter say: "Put your hands up!" and someone else say "Don't shoot!" He also heard many people yelling and many gunshots over the intercom, while he, his classmates, and his teacher took refuge in a closet in the gymnasium.[39] Diane Day, a school therapist who had been at the faculty meeting with Hochsprung, heard screaming, followed by more gunshots. A second teacher, who was a substitute kindergarten teacher, was wounded in the attack. While she was closing a door further down the hallway, she was hit in the foot with a bullet that ricocheted. Lanza never entered her classroom.[8][40][41]
After killing Hochsprung and Sherlach, Lanza entered the main office, but apparently did not see the people hiding there, and returned to the hallway.[30] School nurse Sarah (Sally) Cox,[42][43] 60, hid under a desk in her office. She later described seeing the door opening and Lanza's boots and legs facing her desk from approximately 20 feet (6.1 m) away. He remained standing for a few seconds before turning around and leaving. She and the school secretary Barbara Halstead called 9-1-1 and hid in a first-aid supply closet for as long as four hours.[44] Janitor Rick Thorne ran through hallways, alerting classrooms.[45]
Lanza then entered a first-grade classroom where Lauren Rousseau, a substitute teacher, had herded her first grade students to the back of the room, and was trying to hide them in a bathroom, when Lanza forced his way into the classroom.[40]Rousseau, Rachel D'Avino (a behavioral therapist who had been employed for a week at the school to work with a special needs student), and fifteen students in Rousseau's class were all killed. Fourteen of the children were dead at the scene; one injured child was taken to a hospital for treatment, but was later declared dead.[37] Most of the teachers and students were found crowded together in the bathroom.[46] A six-year-old girl, the sole survivor, was found by police in the classroom following the shooting.[37] The surviving girl was hidden in one of the corners of the classroom's bathroom during the shooting.[47] The girl's family pastor said that she survived the mass shooting by remaining still, and playing dead. When she reached her mother, she said, "Mommy, I'm okay, but all my friends are dead." The child described the shooter as "a very angry man."[48][49] A girl hiding in a bathroom with two teachers told police that she heard a boy in the classroom screaming, "Help me! I don't want to be here!" to which Lanza responded, "Well, you're here," followed by more hammering sounds.[50]
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Lanza next went to another first-grade classroom nearby; at this point, there are conflicting reports about the order of events. According to some reports, the classroom's teacher, Victoria Leigh Soto, had concealed some of the students in a closet or bathroom, and some of the other students were hiding under desks.[40] Soto was walking back to the classroom door to lock it when Lanza entered the classroom.[51] Lanza walked to the back of the classroom, saw the children under the desks, and shot them. First grader Jesse Lewis shouted at his classmates to run for safety, and several of them did. Lewis was looking at Lanza when Lanza fatally shot him.[52] Another account, given by a surviving child's father, said that Soto had moved the children to the back of the classroom, and that they were seated on the floor when Lanza entered. According to this account, neither Lanza nor any of the occupants of the classroom spoke. Lanza stared at the people on the floor, pointed the gun at a boy seated there, but did not fire at the boy, who ultimately survived.[53] The boy got up and ran out of the classroom and was among the survivors.[50] A Hartford Courant report said that six of the children who escaped did so when Lanza stopped shooting, either because his weapon jammed or he erred in reloading it.[40] Earlier reports said that, as Lanza entered her classroom, Soto told him that the children were in the auditorium. When several of the children came out of their hiding places and tried to run for safety, Lanza fatally shot them. Soto put herself between her students and the shooter, who then fatally shot her.[54] Anne Marie Murphy, the teacher's aide who worked with special-needs students in Soto's classroom, was found covering six-year-old Dylan Hockley, who also died.[55][56] Soto and four children were found dead in the classroom, Soto near the north wall of the room with a set of keys nearby.[37]:14 One child was taken to the hospital, but was pronounced dead.[37]:14Six surviving children from the class and a school bus driver took refuge at a nearby home.[57] According to the official report released by the state's attorney, nine children ran from Soto's classroom and survived, while two children were found by police hiding in a class bathroom.[37]:14 In all, 11 children from Soto's class survived.[52] Five of Soto's students were killed.[58]
First grade teacher Kaitlin Roig, 29 years old, hid 14 students in a bathroom and barricaded the door, telling them to be completely quiet to remain safe.[59][60] It is believed that Lanza bypassed her classroom, which was the first classroom on the left side of the hallway; possibly because, following a lockdown drill weeks earlier, Roig had failed to remove a piece of black construction paper that was covering the small window in her classroom door. Lanza may have assumed that Roig's classroom was empty because the door was closed and the window covered.[40]
School library staff Yvonne Cech and Maryann Jacob first hid 18 children in a part of the library the school used for lockdown in practice drills. Discovering that one door would not lock, they had the children crawl into a storage room, where Cech barricaded the door with a filing cabinet.[6][39][61]
Music teacher Maryrose Kristopik, 50, barricaded her fourth-graders in a tiny supply closet during the rampage.[62] Lanza arrived moments later, pounding the door and yelling, "Let me in," while the students in Kristopik's class quietly hid inside.[63]
Two third-grade students, chosen as classroom helpers, were walking down the hallway to the office to deliver the morning attendance sheet as the shooting began. Teacher Abbey Clements pulled both children into her classroom, where they hid.[64]
Laura Feinstein, a reading specialist at the school, gathered two students from outside her classroom and hid with them under desks after they heard gunshots.[65] Feinstein called the school office and tried to call 911, but could not connect, due to the lack of reception on her cell phone. She hid with the children for approximately 40 minutes, at which point law enforcement came to lead them out of the room.[66]
The police heard the final shot at 9:40:03 a.m.; they believe that it was Lanza shooting himself in the lower rear portion of his head with the Glock 20SF in classroom 10.[67] Lanza's body was found wearing a pale green pocket vest over a black polo shirt, over a black T-shirt, black sneakers, black fingerless gloves, black socks, and a black canvas belt.[67][68] Other objects found in the vicinity of Lanza include a black boonie hat and thin frame glasses. The Glock was found, apparently jammed, near Lanza, and the rifle was found several feet away from him.[67] A 9 mm Sig Sauer P226, which was not fired during the incident, was found on the shooter's person.[69]
First grade teacher Kaitlin Roig, 29 years old, hid 14 students in a bathroom and barricaded the door, telling them to be completely quiet to remain safe.[59][60] It is believed that Lanza bypassed her classroom, which was the first classroom on the left side of the hallway; possibly because, following a lockdown drill weeks earlier, Roig had failed to remove a piece of black construction paper that was covering the small window in her classroom door. Lanza may have assumed that Roig's classroom was empty because the door was closed and the window covered.[40]
School library staff Yvonne Cech and Maryann Jacob first hid 18 children in a part of the library the school used for lockdown in practice drills. Discovering that one door would not lock, they had the children crawl into a storage room, where Cech barricaded the door with a filing cabinet.[6][39][61]
Music teacher Maryrose Kristopik, 50, barricaded her fourth-graders in a tiny supply closet during the rampage.[62] Lanza arrived moments later, pounding the door and yelling, "Let me in," while the students in Kristopik's class quietly hid inside.[63]
Two third-grade students, chosen as classroom helpers, were walking down the hallway to the office to deliver the morning attendance sheet as the shooting began. Teacher Abbey Clements pulled both children into her classroom, where they hid.[64]
Laura Feinstein, a reading specialist at the school, gathered two students from outside her classroom and hid with them under desks after they heard gunshots.[65] Feinstein called the school office and tried to call 911, but could not connect, due to the lack of reception on her cell phone. She hid with the children for approximately 40 minutes, at which point law enforcement came to lead them out of the room.[66]
The police heard the final shot at 9:40:03 a.m.; they believe that it was Lanza shooting himself in the lower rear portion of his head with the Glock 20SF in classroom 10.[67] Lanza's body was found wearing a pale green pocket vest over a black polo shirt, over a black T-shirt, black sneakers, black fingerless gloves, black socks, and a black canvas belt.[67][68] Other objects found in the vicinity of Lanza include a black boonie hat and thin frame glasses. The Glock was found, apparently jammed, near Lanza, and the rifle was found several feet away from him.[67] A 9 mm Sig Sauer P226, which was not fired during the incident, was found on the shooter's person.[69]
freddy
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What a great flick.
holdover
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Hold on there Freddy .....