Seized asset funds to purchase optical devices for sheriff’s office
- Thread starter GOYABEAN
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$150,000.00 for "optics"? That seems outrageous to me. Some detail seems to be called for!
At $600 +/- per trijicon SRO that would be 250 pistols. But then again the guns they have would either need to be milled of the optic of their choice or more than likely they would buy new optic ready pistols.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
This is exactly what it is. My city department went to optics and they simply bought all new guns with optics installed. Then they bought a $12,000 drone and had to train everyone on the new guns. So we wonder where all the tax money goes. I’m also sure they can not sell these old guns directly so they go to an FFL at Pennie’s on the dollar because the FFL gets flooded with tons of old guns no one really wants. In my city’s case the guns we're bought and owned by the officers so they get to keep them.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Government and your tax dollars
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Seizing funds seems outrageous to me!
Robin
Robin
spat
.950 JDJ
It's gotten so bad that the cops are stealing more money than the criminals.
Ok, there's so many wrongs ...
Seized forfeiture funds is a big issue and huge no-no these days as much of those so called seized funds are legit monies stolen without process. Anyways...
$150k for optics!? For the Carmel Police Dept... How many employees? It's not 200 that's for sure!
Notes on firearm use with optics allowing the officer to keep BOTH eyes open? Oh my... Laughing my ass off! Maybe that money would be better used for firearm proficiency training than reinforcing bad habits with optics! Both eyes should be open when aiming, etc!
My God... The horror! Lol
How many qualify with one eye shooting? Fucking peeing my pants!
Just my thoughts that pooped in my head reading this article. Ultimately supporting LE I'm 100% in, don't misread my post!
Seized forfeiture funds is a big issue and huge no-no these days as much of those so called seized funds are legit monies stolen without process. Anyways...
$150k for optics!? For the Carmel Police Dept... How many employees? It's not 200 that's for sure!
Notes on firearm use with optics allowing the officer to keep BOTH eyes open? Oh my... Laughing my ass off! Maybe that money would be better used for firearm proficiency training than reinforcing bad habits with optics! Both eyes should be open when aiming, etc!
My God... The horror! Lol
How many qualify with one eye shooting? Fucking peeing my pants!
Just my thoughts that pooped in my head reading this article. Ultimately supporting LE I'm 100% in, don't misread my post!
It is the objective of Government to spend money, not to earn it, nor save it.Government and your tax dollars
As all programs throughout the years....
Seized funds started out okay..
Now, they take from so many that are arrested. The arrestee in many cases has to prove where the money came from prior to it being released.
Seized funds started out okay..
Now, they take from so many that are arrested. The arrestee in many cases has to prove where the money came from prior to it being released.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
All the Red DOT fans started this non sense.
Until you stand off at 5 yards wearing nothing but a pair of shorts, eye safety and a gun belt with a airsoft gas pistol and draw down on each other at the beep, stay quiet. No one is picking up the dot let alone a front sight post. Pain your reality. It's an eye opening experience.
The idea that you can train away a body alarm response of protection is ridiculous. You WILL NOT TAKE YOU EYES OFF YOUR IMPENDING DEATH.
Spend the 150k on training. If you're not training to shoot instinctively out to 15 yards, your not training.
Until you stand off at 5 yards wearing nothing but a pair of shorts, eye safety and a gun belt with a airsoft gas pistol and draw down on each other at the beep, stay quiet. No one is picking up the dot let alone a front sight post. Pain your reality. It's an eye opening experience.
The idea that you can train away a body alarm response of protection is ridiculous. You WILL NOT TAKE YOU EYES OFF YOUR IMPENDING DEATH.
Spend the 150k on training. If you're not training to shoot instinctively out to 15 yards, your not training.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Many good points already but what about the batteries? What happens when one or more guys don't check to see if it's working until range day or worse? You know that will happen and then his last thought will be "where's that frickin red dot? Oh shit I should've...."
No tax dollars used.
In 2022, over 1 billion was seized in asset forfeiture................grants to LE cost the public nothing..Cartel cash is the largest form of asset seizure. Gov't keeps most for operations but grants to LE is big.
Got drugs in a bust............car goes, guns go, sometimes home goes..............not reported much...
be good.
In 2022, over 1 billion was seized in asset forfeiture................grants to LE cost the public nothing..Cartel cash is the largest form of asset seizure. Gov't keeps most for operations but grants to LE is big.
Got drugs in a bust............car goes, guns go, sometimes home goes..............not reported much...
be good.
spat
.950 JDJ
It was never OK.
The ends never justify the means, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I don't even think a jurisdiction should be allowed to keep fines, let alone seized assets.
Any revenue generated by law enforcement or the justice system should be refunded directly to taxpayers. Your budget needs to stand on it's own, not be supplemented, even by money legitimately taken from criminals.
It sets up the wrong incentives.
I work with kids who keep NO cash on them, let alone at home. Its not a matter of suspicion, they're just a different generation.
On the topic, my agency is also going to red dots and new guns. I'm not sure what the policy for changing the batteries will be, but I'll presume that it'll be done at least during the requalification cycle or when our guns are inspected by the dept armorer.
Because fuck you, that's why. Why do I drink coffee? Because I want to. Why do I eat steak? Because it's delicious and I want to.
Since when has America been a country of "needs" only? Freedom isnt about needs, its about doing what you want. Gestapo cops can fuck off.
spat
.950 JDJ
We always keep a couple grand in cash for emergencies.
Imagine your wallet get stolen and you have to cancel all your cards. Sure would suck not to have any cash available then.
If it happened on a holiday weekend and you can't get to the bank to cash a check it could turn into a disaster.
It used to be where even in an extended power outage stores would stay open and you just had to pay cash, but I bet that doesn't work anymore.
But, yea, after the '91 ice storm in Western NY always have enough cash on hand for emergencies.
I keep a rather large amount of cash in the house. Always have. One never knows.
Not all large bills either. A wide variety of bills are the best.
spat
.950 JDJ
Yea, you need to be able to make change. You may be buying stuff from people who can't make it themselves.
You might even sell something to a neighbor and want to make change.
OFC, with inflation there aren't really "large" bills the way there used to be.
$50 was a lot of money not that long ago. Now it's one tank of gas.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Speaking of seized assets Update!
spat
.950 JDJ
At 5 yards you might not even want to wait for full presentation.All the Red DOT fans started this non sense.
Until you stand off at 5 yards wearing nothing but a pair of shorts, eye safety and a gun belt with a airsoft gas pistol and draw down on each other at the beep, stay quiet. No one is picking up the dot let alone a front sight post. Pain your reality. It's an eye opening experience.
The idea that you can train away a body alarm response of protection is ridiculous. You WILL NOT TAKE YOU EYES OFF YOUR IMPENDING DEATH.
Spend the 150k on training. If you're not training to shoot instinctively out to 15 yards, your not training.
We did a similar drill in a martial arts class I took (it was more tueller drill, knife vs gun stuff, but close range). I was firing with the airsoft gun from a retention position against my chest. At only 5 yards you can hit pretty reliably from there. Extending my arms for a full sight picture just felt like you're asking for it to get knocked away. Even if you retain control of it, it could easily end up in a position where you can't bring the muzzle to bear on the target.