Uzi
.308 Win
Yeah, So many deals on basic m4 style ar's under $600 on the internet.
Semi Auto Rifle for Lower Income Home
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GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
the OP title sounds like a adoption program I'll take it 
Yeah sks are pretty reasonable price it's a shame we can't enjoy what the other 99.9 % of America could buy 
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Was going to post the same.
Mossberg 500a or 590
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ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Sell them to me at 1/8 of the 2x price you thought they were going to be worth.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Joe? izzat you?
MaBoomStick
.38 Special
Sorry boys, this is what I got for now. -10 points for random power outlet
Nice yugo. Where did you get it from? How much ?
MaBoomStick
.38 Special
Aimsurplus, $419 + shipping and transfer fee
When you hit 21, get an 03FFL.
It would have paid for itself in that one transfer.
Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
Darth dont take credit for advice I stated already. Jerk.
Three great guns right there. Lots of versatility there
Three great guns right there. Lots of versatility there
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Mini 14 or 30 in an apartment.....Your neighbors would be ducking lead also....strickly speaking for effectness and neighbor safety...a pump or semi auto shotgun with 4 -6 shot will clear the hallway....make aiming a non issue....I never tested it but was told in boot camp by the instructors that a .223 can penetrate 1/8 inch steel at 100 yards.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
I would wait until you hit 21, then build an AR. Buy the upper pre-assembled if you don't want to deal with a torque wrench. The lower is a piece of cake to build.
Concerning over penetration, ......
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Actually I take back what I originally said here. I would look into some of the dedicated, low grain home defense 556 rounds. They are supposed to fragment more when hitting hard barriers and over penetrate less.
Concerning over penetration, ......
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Actually I take back what I originally said here. I would look into some of the dedicated, low grain home defense 556 rounds. They are supposed to fragment more when hitting hard barriers and over penetrate less.
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That right there is an entirely adequate defensive collection
Most any non "barrier blind", which is just a fancy term for hollow or soft point expanding but non fragmenting projectiles, will rapidly yaw after hitting just about any object and then fragment when it strikes the next object. I like to run 77gr OTMs but I think standard 55gr M193 will do okay up close and on a budget. Provided you don't need barrier penetration that is.
I originally said something similar to this, but I went back and edited it out after watching some of the drywall tests of 55 grain on YouTube. They weren't very convincing.
Meaning penetration on drywall? Drywall won't stop anything. Link to the video you are referring too?
There's a few, but I liked this one in particular. There is the possibility that its because of the type of ammo they're using, but I'm not sure.
Your take?
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Thanks for posting but this seems so arbitrary. I don't understand what they are trying to show here other than perhaps some cool footage?
One chooses the ammo that better suites ones objectives.
Yes, I agree it's not very scientific. I haven't been able to find tests using more accurate representations of real exterior walls in a home. But I posted in response to Podmonkey, and my point is that regular 55 grain may not have the desired effect of yawing and fragmenting before the bullet exits your house. It may be more helpful to use rounds designed for home defense or possibly varmints that I would speculate are more consistent in their fragmenting on impact with barriers.
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Some varmint rounds might be ok but others might provide a broad wounding but not enough penetration. Perhaps a match bullet would make more sense
and many work great in soft targets like the Sierra 77gr TMK or hornday 75gr hpbt. Tap ammo uses that one and it is designed for patrols and swat teams.
If one lives on an apartment or shared home or something and there is a serious concern of going and hitting someone else then one should be very careful wiht the ammo choices. Otherwise choose whatever it is going to be the fastest way to neutralize the threat and I would not worry about drywall. The above doesn't represent so many other things that are in the way like large pieces of wood, furniture, pipes, air vents, glass, etc... In reality between modern town houses and apartments none of the rounds will make it through the typical firewall. I think situational awareness and training and assuring one makes contact seems like a better way to assure results and reduce the doubts about potential collateral damage.
I pretty much agree with what you're saying.
^^^I would like to see some video evidence of this before I'm totally convinced though.
Yeah, thanks for posting the vid, but like I said drywall does not present much of a barrier, You can punch through the stuff with your fist for goodness sakes! I suggest M193 cause it's cheap and the OP wants low cost. Cheapest 77 OTM I've seen is Magtech clone stuff at about 65 cents a round and it's never in stock! I usually get the IMI stuff and it runs me about 70 cents. the Black Hills stuff is too expensive.
In any case my apartments exterior walls are concrete.
In any case my apartments exterior walls are concrete.
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meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
IMO The video will not help since you need to know how yours is built specifically. They can be similar or totally different.
Yeah, good point. I guess it's an individual choice on what's going to work best in your home.
Just decided on another build. Fixed mag with every evil feature.
Going midlength with sighted carry handle and A2 front sight post style. Out the door cost inc. polished trigger group to try it out:
$526
Could have brought it under $500 if I wanted.
Going midlength with sighted carry handle and A2 front sight post style. Out the door cost inc. polished trigger group to try it out:
$526
Could have brought it under $500 if I wanted.
Back when I was just starting out I had a Maverick Model 88 shotgun, a 10/22, a Colt HBAR Match and a Dan Wesson 357 Magnum. I think you are doing just fine.
Chris1389
.45 acp
Go on armslist and i bet the house that you will find something in your price range. A great survival/home gun is the kel tech su-16. All compliant, folding, gas operated 556 that takes AR mags. There a little hard to find but you can get a used one for 4-500$